RealDave you did say an honest and open discussion Right? Than you do agree that the senate should present a budget and Reid should bring up Republicans legislation pass by the House sent to the senate that Reid has set on for the past two years to allow either an up or down vote?
Even "real dumb" is bright enough to realize that if Reid brought the 30 + bills passed by the house and sent to the senate were voted on most if not all would pass. That is the last thing he wants to see happen. "real dumb" hates honesty and transparency.