Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
carol

Orlando, FL

#810631 Nov 24, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
One has to really wonder about the insistence of those who try to fight for a lost cause.
I won't even mention 'duped'. Everyone gets it.
The EPA creats unnecessary and unfounded scare among the foolish. They tend to do that a lot. 30 lawsuits, including many by states, have been filed against the EPA.

They cherry pick data and omit other data that isn't on the politically correct agenda to control the people.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#810632 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, he was. When it was clear Obama had won, he was extremely gracious.
Liberals would have been burning something to the ground.
Sorry. Burning America to the ground is a conservative objective.

The rest of us want to move forward.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#810633 Nov 24, 2012
The GOP’s Conspicuous Silence About Entitlement Cuts

Asked Friday what the House GOP’s terms are, a top aide to Speaker John Boehner said,“Republicans’ willingness to support additional revenue via tax reform is conditional on it being accompanied by significant entitlement reforms that begin to address the problem of the debt. There are a variety of ways in which this can be accomplished. As the Speaker has indicated, we’re open to talking with Democrats about any and all serious and responsible entitlement changes they’re willing to discuss. Without such spending controls, any plan to avert the fiscal cliff is not a balanced approach,” but provided no specifics or approach preferences.

In the recent past, Republicans have proposed dramatic reforms to all three of those programs — partial privatization of both Medicare and Social Security, and dramatically reduced federal spending on and authority over Medicaid.

But their ideas lack popular support, and a majority of the voting public rejected them on Election Day. Even if Republicans continue to advocate these plans, they don’t have the leverage to force Democrats to accept them.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/th...
carol

Orlando, FL

#810634 Nov 24, 2012
A federal judge in North Carolina specifically found that the EPA came to a pre-determined conclusion then cherry picked data, excluded any data which didn't support their pre-determined conclusion, changed the rules of science, didn't follow the law, and didn't follow its own internal regulatory procedures. All of which the judge used to strike down six of the chapters of the EPA report.
carol

Orlando, FL

#810635 Nov 24, 2012
State of Indiana sides with Duke in case against EPA
http://indianalawblog.com/archives/2006/09/in...

16 'Endangerment' Lawsuits Filed Against EPA Before Deadline
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/02/17/17gre...

EPA Lawsuit Information
http://epalawsuit.com/
carol

Orlando, FL

#810636 Nov 24, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry. Burning America to the ground is a conservative objective.
The rest of us want to move forward.
General Custer wanted his men to move forward too.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#810637 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
If the "boogey man" had killed 3000 people by flying jet airplanes with families and children as passengers into buildings, you'd have a point.
Please don't tell me you believe Obama's hype that he single-handedly got rid of the "boogey man". It's what got him in trouble right before the election when the "boogey man" killed our ambassador and he tried to convince us it wasn't the "boogey man" but just a figment of our imagination.
If 'Al Queda' had killed 3000 people by flying planes into buildings, YOU might have a point. Two of the planes were so 'Al Queda'ed' they evaporated, and Tower 7 was 'Al Queda'ed' exactly as though it was professionally demoed. That wasn't 'Al Queda' hon.

That was the US government.
Your tax dollars at work.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#810638 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
General Custer wanted his men to move forward too.
lol! Yes, And General Custer also DISOBEYED orders when he did so!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#810639 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
State of Indiana sides with Duke in case against EPA
http://indianalawblog.com/archives/2006/09/in...
16 'Endangerment' Lawsuits Filed Against EPA Before Deadline
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/02/17/17gre...
EPA Lawsuit Information
http://epalawsuit.com/
lol! Isn't it great the EPA is trying to protect us?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#810640 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
State of Indiana sides with Duke in case against EPA
http://indianalawblog.com/archives/2006/09/in...
16 'Endangerment' Lawsuits Filed Against EPA Before Deadline
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/02/17/17gre...
EPA Lawsuit Information
http://epalawsuit.com/
What's your point? Are you saying that you want to abolish the EPA because of a few lost lawsuits? Allow wholesale polluting of our streams and rivers? Allow drilling anywhere and anywhere?
carol

Orlando, FL

#810641 Nov 24, 2012
FACTS VERSUS FEARS:

A REVIEW OF THE GREATEST UNFOUNDEDHEALTH SCARES OF RECENT TIMES

Prepared for the American Council on Science and Health

FOURTH EDITION
First published May 1997
Revised September 1997
Revised June 1998
Revised September 2004

1.The “Cranberry Scare” of 1959.
2.DDT, 1962.
3.Cyclamates, 1969.
4.DES in Beef, 1972.
5.Nitrites, 1972.
6.Red Dye Number 2, 1976.
7.Saccharin, 1977.
8.Hair Dyes, 1977.
9.Tris, 1977.
10.Love Canal, 1978.
11.Three Mile Island, 1979.
12.Asbestos in Hair Dryers, 1979.
13.2,4,5-T, 1979.
14.Coffee and Pancreatic Cancer, 1981.
15.Times Beach, 1982.
16.EDB, 1983.
17.Alar, 1989.
18.Electric Blankets, 1989.
19.Video Display Terminals, 1989.
20.Benzene in Perrier, 1990.
21.Amalgam Dental Fillings, 1990.
22.Asbestos in Schools, 1993.
23.Cellular Phones, 1993.
24.Perchloroethylene in a Harlem School, 1997.
25.Vaccines and Autism, 1998.
26.Acrylamide, 2002:“The GreatPotato Chip Scare”.
27.PCBs in Farmed Salmon, 2003-4.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37169964/Facts-Vers...

One of the reasons behind these scares:

"Ignorance of the basic principle of toxicology,'the dose makes the poison,' as consumers fretover the presence of even a single molecule of asubstance that is not hazardous to humans unlessit is consumed in large amounts."

...like less than 1 nanogram per milliliter...
Obama Haters Are Clueless

Pompano Beach, FL

#810642 Nov 24, 2012
Anyone that thinks that ONE MAN....republican...democrat.. ..whatever can change this country is an idiot.

Obama this...Obama that....you people sound like cry babies. You follow each other like sheep, and get on the "Hate Obama" bandwagon without the data to make an INFORMED decision.

ANY ONE PERSON can't change anything ! The sooner you sheep realize this, the better off you'll be.

I didn't care for either of these guys....guess why....because it make NO DIFFERENCE.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#810643 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
The EPA creats unnecessary and unfounded scare among the foolish. They tend to do that a lot. 30 lawsuits, including many by states, have been filed against the EPA.
They cherry pick data and omit other data that isn't on the politically correct agenda to control the people.
so now we learn that our resident fatty, who first admits, then denies being fat is also a smoker!!

No surprise there. Carol intends to get every penny out of the healthcare system, praise Jesus!!

So we'll leave the EPA out of it and make Carol look like the idiot she truly is:

By Mayo Clinic staff

Secondhand smoke: Avoid dangers in the air

Exposure to the toxins in secondhand smoke can cause asthma, cancer and other serious problems. Know what you're breathing — and consider practical steps for clearing the air.
You don't smoke because you understand the dangers — but what about secondhand smoke? Secondhand smoke causes or contributes to various health problems, including heart disease, lung disease and various types of cancer. Understand what's in secondhand smoke, and consider ways to protect yourself and those you love from secondhand smoke.

What's in secondhand smoke?

Secondhand smoke — also known as environmental tobacco smoke — includes the smoke that a smoker exhales (mainstream smoke) and the smoke that comes directly from the burning tobacco product (sidestream smoke). Secondhand smoke contains thousands of toxic chemicals, including:
Ammonia, used in cleaning products
Butane, used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide, found in car exhaust
Chromium, used to make steel
Cyanide, used in chemical weapons
Formaldehyde, an industrial chemical
Lead, a toxic metal
Polonium, a radioactive substance

The dangerous particles in secondhand smoke can linger in the air for hours or even longer. It isn't just the smoke that's a concern, though. The residue that clings to a smoker's hair and clothing, as well as cushions, carpeting and other goods — sometimes referred to as thirdhand smoke — also can pose risks, especially for children.

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Oh, NO!! The Mayo clinic has been duped, too!!

----------

Carol was badly deranged before the election. Now she's gone off into truly 'lunatic fringe' territory!!
carol

Orlando, FL

#810644 Nov 24, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Yes, And General Custer also DISOBEYED orders when he did so!
Since the people hire elected officials including Narcissist-in-Chief/President "I won so eat it" Obama, it seems he, too, disobeyed orders by shoving Obamacare down our throats when over 60% of those who hired him said NO!

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#810645 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
A federal judge in North Carolina specifically found that the EPA came to a pre-determined conclusion then cherry picked data, excluded any data which didn't support their pre-determined conclusion, changed the rules of science, didn't follow the law, and didn't follow its own internal regulatory procedures. All of which the judge used to strike down six of the chapters of the EPA report.
The fatty continues to defend her other bad habits.

Here's what the CDC has to say:

""Secondhand smoke is the combination of smoke from the burning end of a cigarette and the smoke breathed out by smokers. Secondhand smoke contains more than 7000 chemicals. Hundreds are toxic and about 70 can cause cancer.1,2

There is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Secondhand smoke causes numerous health problems in infants and children, including severe asthma attacks, respiratory infections, ear infections, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).1 Some of the health conditions caused by secondhand smoke in adults include heart disease and lung cancer.1

Secondhand Smoke Causes Heart Disease

Exposure to secondhand smoke has immediate adverse effects on the cardiovascular system and can cause coronary heart disease.1,3
•Secondhand smoke causes an estimated 46,000 premature deaths from heart disease each year in the United States among nonsmokers.4
•Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or at work increase their risk of developing heart disease by 25–30%.1


Breathing secondhand smoke can have immediate adverse effects on your blood and blood vessels, increasing the risk of having a heart attack.1,2
•Breathing secondhand smoke interferes with the normal functioning of the heart, blood, and vascular systems in ways that increase the risk of having a heart attack.
•Even brief secondhand smoke exposure can damage the lining of blood vessels and cause your blood platelets to become stickier. These changes can cause a deadly heart attack.


People who already have heart disease are at especially high risk of suffering adverse effects from breathing secondhand smoke and should take special precautions to avoid even brief exposures.1

Secondhand Smoke Causes Lung Cancer

Secondhand smoke causes lung cancer in adults who themselves have never smoked.1
•Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or at work increase their risk of developing lung cancer by 20–30%.1
•Secondhand smoke causes an estimated 3,400 lung cancer deaths among U.S. nonsmokers each year.4,5


Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke are inhaling many of the same cancer-causing substances and poisons as smokers.1,2
•Secondhand smoke contains about 70 cancer-causing chemicals.
•Even brief secondhand smoke exposure can damage cells in ways that set the cancer process in motion.
•As with active smoking, the longer the duration and the higher the level of exposure to secondhand smoke, the greater the risk of developing lung cancer.


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I thought her diabetes was responsible for her brain farts. It appears the lack of oxygen in her brain due to smoking has had a serious effect.
carol

Orlando, FL

#810646 Nov 24, 2012
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
What's your point? Are you saying that you want to abolish the EPA because of a few lost lawsuits? Allow wholesale polluting of our streams and rivers? Allow drilling anywhere and anywhere?
When any government agency outgrows it's original purpose and becomes morbidly obese, it's time to put it on a diet.

The EPA can't even fit through the door anymore and then throws its weight around wreaking havoc.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#810648 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
FACTS VERSUS FEARS:
A REVIEW OF THE GREATEST UNFOUNDEDHEALTH SCARES OF RECENT TIMES
Prepared for the American Council on Science and Health
FOURTH EDITION
First published May 1997
Revised September 1997
Revised June 1998
Revised September 2004
1.The “Cranberry Scare” of 1959.
2.DDT, 1962.
3.Cyclamates, 1969.
4.DES in Beef, 1972.
5.Nitrites, 1972.
6.Red Dye Number 2, 1976.
7.Saccharin, 1977.
8.Hair Dyes, 1977.
9.Tris, 1977.
10.Love Canal, 1978.
11.Three Mile Island, 1979.
12.Asbestos in Hair Dryers, 1979.
13.2,4,5-T, 1979.
14.Coffee and Pancreatic Cancer, 1981.
15.Times Beach, 1982.
16.EDB, 1983.
17.Alar, 1989.
18.Electric Blankets, 1989.
19.Video Display Terminals, 1989.
20.Benzene in Perrier, 1990.
21.Amalgam Dental Fillings, 1990.
22.Asbestos in Schools, 1993.
23.Cellular Phones, 1993.
24.Perchloroethylene in a Harlem School, 1997.
25.Vaccines and Autism, 1998.
26.Acrylamide, 2002:“The GreatPotato Chip Scare”.
27.PCBs in Farmed Salmon, 2003-4.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/37169964/Facts-Vers...
One of the reasons behind these scares:
"Ignorance of the basic principle of toxicology,'the dose makes the poison,' as consumers fretover the presence of even a single molecule of asubstance that is not hazardous to humans unlessit is consumed in large amounts."
...like less than 1 nanogram per milliliter...
lol! "...The ACSH is known as an "industry-friendly" group.[22] In 1982, the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), a watchdog and consumer advocacy group, known to spar with ACSH, published an extensive report on ACSH's practices that stated, "ACSH appears to be a consumer fraud; as a scientific group, ACSH seems to arrive at conclusions before conducting studies. Through voodoo or alchemy, bodies of scientific knowledge are transmogrified into industry-oriented position statements."[23] CSPI director Michael F. Jacobson said of ACSH,'"This organization promotes confusion among consumers about what is safe and what isn't... ACSH is using a slick scientific veneer to obscure and deny truths that virtually everyone else agrees with."[24]

In 2004, the now-defunct Tufts University Nutrition Navigator (a rating guide to nutrition websites) gave the ACSH site an overall rating of 20 out of 25 and an "Accuracy of Information" rating of 8 out of 10. However, it commented, "This site aims to arm consumers with the facts necessary to make wise decisions about health, but be aware that the information here is biased and represents a very conservative interpretation of current science. Consumers looking for a balanced debate on health issues will have to look elsewhere."[25]..."
Nightchalker

Lansing, MI

#810649 Nov 24, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Yes, And General Custer also DISOBEYED orders when he did so!
VERY GOOD!

Just like obamma disobeys the CONSTITUTION?

(it contains HIS orders)

Before you squeal, PROVE IT!

I will just say, EXECUTIVE ORDERS!!!
PDUPONT

Chicopee, MA

#810650 Nov 24, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush had 9/11, two wars and the housing market collapse.
Obama more than doubled Bush's debt in one term. What did he have? Besides a prolonged recovery and failed policies?
Yes stupid, Bush had 9/11 which he didn't even attempt to prevent despite warnings that an attack was imminent. Of the two wars one was arguably necessary, Afghanistan and one was totally unnecessary, Iraq. The housing crisis was caused by greed, pure and simple and Republican anti regulatory policies allowed that to happen. Meanwhile his tax cuts for the wealthiest 5% cost the Treasury $11.6 million every hour of every day. The Iraq war not only distracted from our more justified operation in Afghanistan prolonging that conflict but has cost over $3 trillion dollars and that cost will keep on rising due to the continuing care required for those who came back physically and mentally damaged and will add another $.5 trillion to the debt.
Yes Carol the debt has increased but not because of spending which has been essentially flat under Obama, it's falling revenue due to the recession and Bush's tax cuts and service on the debt that Bush incurred for his wars.
blogs.ajc.com/.../so-how-much-has-obama-incre... ...

If Bush had left the tax rates alone which Eisenhower wisely did, limited our actions in Afghanistan to supporting the Northern Alliance with surgical strikes on known Al Qaeda sites and left Iraq the hell alone, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Bush Our Worst President

El Monte, CA

#810651 Nov 24, 2012
Topic Reminder Service wrote:
Barack Obama is a two-term President. End of story, end of topic. Move on, nothing to see here except a bunch of pompous blowhards.
AGREED.

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