Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1496555 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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carol

Oviedo, FL

#810958 Nov 25, 2012
PDUPONT wrote:
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Yes Carol, I read the article you cited and it reveals that the study in question was financed by the tobacco industry. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?
Yes Carol, I read the article you cited and it reveals that the study in question was financed by the tobacco industry. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?
Medical scientists are not influenced by government bias or industrial bias. The medical data simply doesn't support the EPA's claims.

The hysteria is based on nothing but hype. Nonsmoking activists went to the EPA to take up the gauntlet against second hand smoke when initial studies didn't give them a sufficient enough leg to stand on.

It's the annoyance of smoke that took away the rights of smokers to smoke by nonsmokers based on a government report that was debunked by scientists.

Wonder what annoyance will be next? Will you be banned from buying a Big Mac? You aren't allowed to buy a large-sized drink in New York. And California is trying to ban meat once a week. But San Franciscans can run around the city butt naked.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#810959 Nov 25, 2012
Fewer Heart Attacks Seen After Smoking Bans

Some groundbreaking research out of the Mayo Clinic shows that when cities and counties ban smoking in public buildings, the rate of heart attacks in the area drops dramatically.

Researchers mined the data from tens of thousands of medical records from every hospital and medical clinic in Olmsted County, and the findings are eye-opening.

In the 18 months before the county banned smoking in restaurants in 2002, there were 212 heart attacks per 100,000 residents. In 2007, the comprehensive smoking ban was put in place, and heart attacks dropped to 102 per 100,000 residents in the 18 months after the ban began. That marks a 45 percent decline.

"We were quite surprised," said Dr. Richard Hurt. "We thought we'd see a reduction, but until now, the highest reported reduction in heart attacks was 47 percent but most were around 17 percent or so."

Furthermore, when the smoking bans began, the number of sudden deaths from heart attacks dropped from 152 per 100,000 to 76, which is a 50 percent drop.

Hurt said the research forms one of the most definitive links yet between second-hand smoke and heart disease.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/health/2011/...
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810960 Nov 25, 2012
See, this is the problem some refuse to see or recognize.

Researchers write in the Canadian Medical Association Journal despite media reports to the contrary, there is no evidence to support the assertion that smoking in cars is 23 times more toxic than in other indoor environments.

The authors say citing the inaccurate statistic has the potential to turn the public against efforts to ban smoking in automobiles. And If you're going to dictate to people how they should behave, not making things up is an important precursor.

http://www.science20.com/news_articles/resear...

The 6 important words: "Dictate to people how to behave."
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#810961 Nov 25, 2012
Second-hand smoke at 5 major airports puts flyers at risk, CDC says

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/11/21/seco...
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810962 Nov 25, 2012
I'd rather stand outside by a smoker any day than sit anywhere in the city of San Francisco. Butt germs are much nastier than a faint smell of smoke.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#810963 Nov 25, 2012
Alarming new study on effects of second-hand smoke
Advertisement

Research says over 42,000 Americans die each year

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1871307769001/alar...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#810964 Nov 25, 2012
A new government study reports that while fewer kids and teens are getting exposed to secondhand smoke while riding in the car, rates of exposure are still high enough to warrant concern.

The authors recommend that more parts of the country ban smoking in cars carrying kids¬ólaws that are on the books in four states.

Researchers said parents and other drivers may not realize that even when the windows are down, smoking in a vehicle can create toxic levels of circulating smoke.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/02/06/many...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#810965 Nov 25, 2012
Smoking ban linked to drop in preterm births, small babies

The health of pregnant women and babies improved after smoking in public places was banned in Scotland, a new study says.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/03/07/smok...
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810966 Nov 25, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Second-hand smoke at 5 major airports puts flyers at risk, CDC says
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/11/21/seco...
Car fumes in cities aren't healthy either. Are you going to ban cars?

If second hand smoke was the culprit government agencies suddenly profess them to be, everyone over 50 would have lung cancer.

Smoking was once allowed everywhere - even inside of an airplane and inside a movie theater.

If you can show me a scientific study (not a government agency claim) confirming a significant number of people over the age of 50 now have lung problems or lung cancer from exposure to second hand smoke, I'll recant my assertion that government is just trying to dictate our behavior.

But you won't find one. It doesn't exist.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#810967 Nov 25, 2012
Secondhand smoke tied to more health effects

People regularly exposed to secondhand smoke may have increased risks of dying from various causes, a long-term study from China suggests.

Researchers found that compared with adults who lived and worked in smoke-free environs, those exposed to secondhand smoke were more likely to die of heart disease or lung cancer over 17 years.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/06/15/seco...
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810968 Nov 25, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Fewer Heart Attacks Seen After Smoking Bans
Some groundbreaking research out of the Mayo Clinic shows that when cities and counties ban smoking in public buildings, the rate of heart attacks in the area drops dramatically.
Researchers mined the data from tens of thousands of medical records from every hospital and medical clinic in Olmsted County, and the findings are eye-opening.
In the 18 months before the county banned smoking in restaurants in 2002, there were 212 heart attacks per 100,000 residents. In 2007, the comprehensive smoking ban was put in place, and heart attacks dropped to 102 per 100,000 residents in the 18 months after the ban began. That marks a 45 percent decline.
"We were quite surprised," said Dr. Richard Hurt. "We thought we'd see a reduction, but until now, the highest reported reduction in heart attacks was 47 percent but most were around 17 percent or so."
Furthermore, when the smoking bans began, the number of sudden deaths from heart attacks dropped from 152 per 100,000 to 76, which is a 50 percent drop.
Hurt said the research forms one of the most definitive links yet between second-hand smoke and heart disease.
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/health/2011/...
Was the data showing the decline in heart attacks from 212 to 102 per 100,000 residents due to smoking bans among smokers only? What percentage of that decline were people merely exposed to second hand smoke?

Because no one is arguing smoking isn't harmful.
MR BRINK

Monroeville, AL

#810969 Nov 25, 2012
carol wrote:
I'd rather stand outside by a smoker any day than sit anywhere in the city of San Francisco. Butt germs are much nastier than a faint smell of smoke.
KNOW THIS, CAROL: SAN FRANCISCO PREFERS YOU WOULD AS WELL.

KNOW THIS TOO, CAROL: AS A PERSISTENT SPREADER OF FILTH, AND A VECTOR FOR DISEASED THOUGHT, YOU ABSENCE FROM THIS THREAD WILL SERVE AS CONFIRMATION OF YOUR ACTUAL DEATH, OR SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH.

(YOU CAN FEEL THE BEGINNING OF MY EMBRACE RIGHT NOW, CAN'T YOU CAROL (THAT'S RHETORICAL). AS A SMOKER WITH DIABETES, COPD AND HIGH CHOLESTEROL, YOU'RE NOT EVEN PEEKING AT ME FROM BEHIND YOUR FAN ANYMORE; YOU'RE IN FULL-BLOWN COURTSHIP MODE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CHASE YOU DOWN TO MOUNT YOU ...

/jc
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810970 Nov 25, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Secondhand smoke tied to more health effects
People regularly exposed to secondhand smoke may have increased risks of dying from various causes, a long-term study from China suggests.
Researchers found that compared with adults who lived and worked in smoke-free environs, those exposed to secondhand smoke were more likely to die of heart disease or lung cancer over 17 years.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/06/15/seco...
I'm done with this topic after posting this.

Show me a scientific study (not a government agency claim) confirming a significant number of people over the age of 50 who now have lung problems or lung cancer from exposure to second hand smoke, and I'll recant my assertion that government is just trying to dictate our behavior.

Second hand smoke was once everywhere. No one seemed to mind until a government agency told them they should. Shouldn't there be more conclusive evidence that lung cancer is prevelant in those 50 and older?

"Dictate to people how they should behave."

You either don't mind being told what to do or you do. Even many nonsmokers do.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#810971 Nov 25, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Smoking ban linked to drop in preterm births, small babies
The health of pregnant women and babies improved after smoking in public places was banned in Scotland, a new study says.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/03/07/smok...
That's a no brainer'

lol
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810972 Nov 25, 2012
MR BRINK wrote:
<quoted text>
KNOW THIS, CAROL: SAN FRANCISCO PREFERS YOU WOULD AS WELL.
KNOW THIS TOO, CAROL: AS A PERSISTENT SPREADER OF FILTH, AND A VECTOR FOR DISEASED THOUGHT, YOU ABSENCE FROM THIS THREAD WILL SERVE AS CONFIRMATION OF YOUR ACTUAL DEATH, OR SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH.
(YOU CAN FEEL THE BEGINNING OF MY EMBRACE RIGHT NOW, CAN'T YOU CAROL (THAT'S RHETORICAL). AS A SMOKER WITH DIABETES, COPD AND HIGH CHOLESTEROL, YOU'RE NOT EVEN PEEKING AT ME FROM BEHIND YOUR FAN ANYMORE; YOU'RE IN FULL-BLOWN COURTSHIP MODE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CHASE YOU DOWN TO MOUNT YOU ...
/jc
Hi Debil.

Bye Debil.
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810973 Nov 25, 2012
This is what is most worrisome. Americans are starting to act like sheep and submit to whatever is being dictated without even so much a protest.

There was a time when Americans would have gone out and bought large-sized drinks en mass in New York just because they were told not to.

But not a peep out of the sheep.
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810974 Nov 25, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Smoking ban linked to drop in preterm births, small babies
The health of pregnant women and babies improved after smoking in public places was banned in Scotland, a new study says.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/03/07/smok...
Smoking while pregnant or around small children is not what we're talking about.

But think about this. How many parents are addicted to drugs and alcohol and their children are abused and neglected because of it?

How many parents feed their children a constant diet of junk food?

No one ever talks about the consequences of drugs and alcohol and people only frown on parents who feed their children junk food. Just smoking has been hyped up to the point of hysteria.

Doesn't that make you stop and think? Even a little bit? What's worse? Drug and alcohol related child neglect and junk food related child obesity? Or smoking?
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810975 Nov 25, 2012
MR BRINK wrote:
<quoted text>
KNOW THIS, CAROL: SAN FRANCISCO PREFERS YOU WOULD AS WELL.
KNOW THIS TOO, CAROL: AS A PERSISTENT SPREADER OF FILTH, AND A VECTOR FOR DISEASED THOUGHT, YOU ABSENCE FROM THIS THREAD WILL SERVE AS CONFIRMATION OF YOUR ACTUAL DEATH, OR SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH.
(YOU CAN FEEL THE BEGINNING OF MY EMBRACE RIGHT NOW, CAN'T YOU CAROL (THAT'S RHETORICAL). AS A SMOKER WITH DIABETES, COPD AND HIGH CHOLESTEROL, YOU'RE NOT EVEN PEEKING AT ME FROM BEHIND YOUR FAN ANYMORE; YOU'RE IN FULL-BLOWN COURTSHIP MODE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CHASE YOU DOWN TO MOUNT YOU ...
/jc
You'd be the one running around naked and sitting on public benches without wiping your butt.

No brainer.
carol

Oviedo, FL

#810976 Nov 25, 2012
I'm much more annoyed by people who get in a car and drive home after being in a bar all night thinking they won't get caught or have an accident than someone smoking in a bar.

Maybe I need to get a group of people together who think like me and ban drinking in bars.

Because, you see, once you allow one behavior to be dictated by others, it's only a matter of time before other behaviors are deemed dangerous to others.
MR BRINK

Monroeville, AL

#810977 Nov 25, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Debil.
Bye Debil.
RUN, CAROL, RUN. BUT DON'T WASTE YOUR FAT FATUOUSNESS FLIRTATIONS ON ME; I'M IMMUNE, OF COURSE. BUT I'M ALSO INDISCRIMINATE AS HELL. I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU CAROL. IF YOU COME TO ME WILLINGLY, IT WILL BE EASIER, BUT NOT REALLY EASY. IF YOU FIGHT, I WILL TAKE YOU HORRIBLY, IN A WAY THAT WILL RENDER YOU A BAWLING, SHAMEFUL OLD INFANT FOR MONTHS ON END, INCONTINENT AND TERROR FILLED. I WILL SHOW YOU A HELL WORSE THAN THE ONE REPRESENTED BY YOUR CLUTTERED LITTLE CONDO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FETID SINKHOLE CALLED FLORIDA, WITH THE DYING OAF YOU ARE IRREVOCABLY YOKED TO.

MY ONLY DECISION IS WHICH OF YOU TO HARVEST FIRST ... HAVE A CIGGY, CAROL ...YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH ONE WILL BE YOUR LAST ...

/jc

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