Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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No one trashed blacks and Hispanics. Romney simply misspoke about the 47% whose vote he would not get in light of the fact that we have actually become a nanny state.
Obama IS responsible for an inexcusable slow recovery and increasing the deficit by leaps and bounds more than Bush ever did after both Democrats and Republicans created the housing mortgage crisis.
Romney just repeated what had been published in the newspapers weeks before the Olympics and what Londoners had been complaining about long before he got there.
Romney changed his mind on abortion as governor.
Obama "evolved" on the issue of gay marriage just months before the election.
It is mainly feminists, muslims, and gays who blocked Mitt Romney from winning the election.
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The Party’s Problem
From the forthcoming issue of NATIONAL REVIEW

By Ramesh Ponnuru

Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333344...

The absence of a middle-class message was the biggest failure of the Romney campaign, and it was not its failure alone. Down-ticket Republican candidates weren’t offering anything more — not the established Republicans, not the tea-partiers, not the social conservatives. Conservative activists weren’t demanding that Romney or any of these other Republicans do anything more. Some of them were complaining that Romney wasn’t “taking the fight to Obama”; few of them were urging him to outline a health-care plan that would reassure voters that replacing Obamacare wouldn’t mean taking health insurance away from millions of people.

Romney’s infamous “47 percent” gaffe — by which he characterized voters who do not pay income taxes as freeloaders and sure Democratic voters, which they aren’t — made for a week of bad media coverage and some devastatingly effective Democratic ads. It was not, however, a line of thinking unique to Romney. It was an exaggerated version of a claim that had become party orthodoxy.

A different Republican presidential nominee might not have made exactly that gaffe, or had a financial-industry background that lent itself to attacks on outsourcing. He would almost certainly have had a similar weakness on economic policy, however, and might have had additional weaknesses too.(Romney at least won independent voters, which it’s hard to imagine Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, or Rick Santorum having done.) To put it differently: The problem isn’t so much that Romney was vulnerable to a set of attacks that appear to have discouraged working-class whites from voting; it’s that he didn’t have anything positive with which to counter those attacks.
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Running From Romney: the GOP’s Phony New Compassion

Let’s match this lovely rhetoric to the Republican record of the past decade or so.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11...
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The Obama campaign ran a very good campaign. The Republicans did not. There was no fraud. There was no stealing the election. There was just a really good ground game from Barack Obama and a lot of smoke and mirrors from Team Romney and outside charlatans, many of whom will now go work for Republican Super PACs making six figure salaries, further draining the pockets of rich Republicans when not on television explaining how awesome and expert they are.

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/07/status-quo...

Americans wanted to assess a contrast between the candidates and got blurred lines instead. They went with the politician they knew instead of the one who was different depending on the election season, constituency, and time of day.

At the same time, Romney made a conscious decision to blow off Hispanic voters. Yes conservatives, we must account for this. The Romney campaign to the hispanic community was atrocious and, frankly, the fastest growing demographic in America isn’t going to vote for a party that sounds like that party hates brown people.
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sonicfilter wrote:
The Party’s Problem
From the forthcoming issue of NATIONAL REVIEW
By Ramesh Ponnuru
Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333344...
The absence of a middle-class message was the biggest failure of the Romney campaign, and it was not its failure alone. Down-ticket Republican candidates weren’t offering anything more — not the established Republicans, not the tea-partiers, not the social conservatives. Conservative activists weren’t demanding that Romney or any of these other Republicans do anything more. Some of them were complaining that Romney wasn’t “taking the fight to Obama”; few of them were urging him to outline a health-care plan that would reassure voters that replacing Obamacare wouldn’t mean taking health insurance away from millions of people.
Romney’s infamous “47 percent” gaffe — by which he characterized voters who do not pay income taxes as freeloaders and sure Democratic voters, which they aren’t — made for a week of bad media coverage and some devastatingly effective Democratic ads. It was not, however, a line of thinking unique to Romney. It was an exaggerated version of a claim that had become party orthodoxy.
A different Republican presidential nominee might not have made exactly that gaffe, or had a financial-industry background that lent itself to attacks on outsourcing. He would almost certainly have had a similar weakness on economic policy, however, and might have had additional weaknesses too.(Romney at least won independent voters, which it’s hard to imagine Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, or Rick Santorum having done.) To put it differently: The problem isn’t so much that Romney was vulnerable to a set of attacks that appear to have discouraged working-class whites from voting; it’s that he didn’t have anything positive with which to counter those attacks.
Anybody who doesn't pay taxes obviously are the people Obama favours. Democrats, and the rich. Obama only wants to get more out of the middle and lower class, he is ruthless about it, so he only lets off the people he likes, typical attitude of a narcissist.

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Seems Huffington Post agrees.
MENTOR, Ohio -- Republicans aren't the only ones who think that Hurricane Sandy has helped President Barack Obama politically.
"I hate to say it, but with that storm I think the atmosphere went up," said Holly Brindley, a 57-year-old volunteer for the Obama campaign.
Numerous voters said they felt the president's response to the storm helped him push back what had been a slow, steady move by Republican nominee Mitt Romney to pick up ground in the polls.
"The storm took a lot of political coverage out of the news, and I think maybe that stopped the momentum," she one voter, Roxanne Hustek.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/03/hurr...
Roxanne was right.
Here is Huffington Post's national trendlines, showing the major events since the beginning of October. Blue is Obama, red is Romney.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/... #!minpct=42.5&maxpct=52.5 &mindate=2012-10-01&es timate=custom

Though Republicans believe the storm damaged Romney’s momentum, Sandy’s political impact may have had more to do with Obama’s rapid response to the storm, which 77 percent of Americans praised. Moreover, Romney’s alleged momentum was already slowing; his favorability ratings began gradually declining after his first debate against the president. In Sandy’s aftermath, Romney was widely criticized for an insensitive “storm relief” rally in Ohio, where his campaign staff staged donations and took photos of the candidate posing with canned goods.

Stop making excuses, it sounds pathetic. He was already losing. Face it Carol, Romney sucked.

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Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in adapting to rapidly changing campaigns and an evolving electorate.
http://news.msn.com/politics/republicans-gop-...
Interpretation: Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in smear tactics, spreading outright falsehoods and intentionally dividing the electorate.
People tend to forget that if the election had been held before Hurricane Sandy, the outcome might have been a lot different. Romney lost his momentum while Obama could look presidential in the spotlight.
Obama was losing in the polls and his approval rating didn't improve until after the Hurricane.
Pretty much.
Shall we blame this on Sandy as well??

The Economist: "The Democrats won 50.6% of the votes for president, to 47.8% for the Republicans; 53.6% of the votes for the Senate, to 42.9% for the Republicans; and...49% of the votes for the House, to 48.2% for the Republicans (some ballots are still being counted). That's not a vote for divided government. It's a clean sweep.

" http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...
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The Obama campaign ran a very good campaign. The Republicans did not. There was no fraud. There was no stealing the election. There was just a really good ground game from Barack Obama and a lot of smoke and mirrors from Team Romney and outside charlatans, many of whom will now go work for Republican Super PACs making six figure salaries, further draining the pockets of rich Republicans when not on television explaining how awesome and expert they are.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/07/status-quo...
Americans wanted to assess a contrast between the candidates and got blurred lines instead. They went with the politician they knew instead of the one who was different depending on the election season, constituency, and time of day.
At the same time, Romney made a conscious decision to blow off Hispanic voters. Yes conservatives, we must account for this. The Romney campaign to the hispanic community was atrocious and, frankly, the fastest growing demographic in America isn’t going to vote for a party that sounds like that party hates brown people.
Obama Voters,

I hope they are paying attention. Attention to
the job losses. Go ahead and tax the rich because the middle class is next when
you find out it won't fix the deficit. Maybe save some money by cutting out all
the Czars. The Special Committee that can't balance the budget. Cut Congress pay
since they can't seem to do their job. Cut the oversight committee that doesn't
get anything done either. How about cutting the Government jobs
that the people do not need instead of the programs they do use?

nationaljournal.com
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Romney's Failure on the Economy

Romney's principal issues were the economy and fixing the finances of the federal government. He failed to make a convincing case that he would do a better job with either.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romneys-f...

Seems there are some real conservative pundits who are somehow not aware that a hurricane won the election. They probably don't watch FOX.
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Obama Voters,
I hope they are paying attention. Attention to
the job losses. Go ahead and tax the rich because the middle class is next when
you find out it won't fix the deficit. Maybe save some money by cutting out all
the Czars. The Special Committee that can't balance the budget. Cut Congress pay
since they can't seem to do their job. Cut the oversight committee that doesn't
get anything done either. How about cutting the Government jobs
that the people do not need instead of the programs they do use?
nationaljournal.com
What will fix the deficit?

and please, something new. you know: something that has been proven to work.
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Here is Huffington Post's national trendlines, showing the major events since the beginning of October. Blue is Obama, red is Romney.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/... #!minpct=42.5&maxpct=52.5 &mindate=2012-10-01&es timate=custom
Though Republicans believe the storm damaged Romney’s momentum, Sandy’s political impact may have had more to do with Obama’s rapid response to the storm, which 77 percent of Americans praised. Moreover, Romney’s alleged momentum was already slowing; his favorability ratings began gradually declining after his first debate against the president. In Sandy’s aftermath, Romney was widely criticized for an insensitive “storm relief” rally in Ohio, where his campaign staff staged donations and took photos of the candidate posing with canned goods.
Stop making excuses, it sounds pathetic. He was already losing. Face it Carol, Romney sucked.
You are damned right he sucked, and WE all knew it too!!!

If the citizens of this country were really allowed to decide who was going to run for president, there would have been different names on the ballots.

"elections" are just a sop to keep the mob quiet.
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Romney's Failure on the Economy
Romney's principal issues were the economy and fixing the finances of the federal government. He failed to make a convincing case that he would do a better job with either.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romneys-f...
Seems there are some real conservative pundits who are somehow not aware that a hurricane won the election. They probably don't watch FOX.
Sooner or later one runs out of other Peoples

Money!

Margaret Thatcher on Socialism the Liberal Commie wet dream!!
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Anybody who doesn't pay taxes obviously are the people Obama favours. Democrats, and the rich. Obama only wants to get more out of the middle and lower class, he is ruthless about it, so he only lets off the people he likes, typical attitude of a narcissist.
so is this like 'total BS day'?

There are many Republicans on the dole. Evidence validates.

The rich? You mean all those folks who gave money to Romney? Evidence validates.

Far right wing leap of faith? Evidence validates.
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On the economy, Romney's main claim was that, as a successful businessman, he knew how to fix it. That's a non sequitur. Business experience doesn't necessarily translate into superior macroeconomic insight. And it left him vulnerable to the savaging of his business record by the other side.

While Romney railed against the federal debt, he never explained how he would get it under control while significantly increasing military spending.

The exit poll asked whether government should be doing more or if it was already doing too many things that would be better left to businesses and individuals. In 2008, voters thought government should be doing more, 51 percent to 43 percent. That's not an election a Republican is going to win.

In 2012, voters thought government was already doing too much by exactly the same margin. That's an election a Republican should win irrespective of the underlying demographics.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opin...

IT WAS THE HURRICANE!!!

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One Million Strong Against Mitt Romney in 2012 via PoliticusUSA:
&#8206;"Hostess’s failure was compounded by having six CEO’s in 8 years who had no experience in the bread or cake baking industry. Despite their financial woes, the company’s CEO got a 300% salary increase from $750,000 to $2,250,000, and other top executives received raises worth hundreds-of-thousands of dollars; all while the company was struggling. Instead of acknowledging the lack of competent leadership and exorbitant executive salaries as contributing to the company’s decision to close its doors, CEO Gregory Rayburn issued a statement saying,“We deeply regret the necessity of today’s decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike.” However, Rayburn and Hostess management claimed the strike would be responsible for closing plants even before there was a strike, and they had made plans to close plants whether or not workers accepted the Draconian wage and benefit cuts the company offered, or if they went on strike."
Good mornin blockhead buddy!

Me's liking the way a hillbilly who plays in the woods like you starts off with "One Million Strong Against Mitt Romney ".

The Dementia thing really has a hold of you Old Goober!

The fact is 58 million people voted for Romney and Obama has less people vote for him this time, hehe!

The Hostess story sounds like Obama was the CEO. Obama is still nothing more than a mall time Chicago punk, propped up by communists in the media and the communist Democrat Party.

Poor people like you get off on stories where they talk about wealthy people. Bottom line is the greedy Democrats/Union priced themselves out of a job. If I was Hostess, I'd just reopen in a red state with right to work laws.

You communist/socialist Democrats are just a party/mindset the self inflicts doom.

See ya, old dummy.
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What will fix the deficit?
and please, something new. you know: something that has been proven to work.
See you from a Republican State a great State.Which is flourishing
as we speak?

Obama Voters,

I hope they are paying attention. Attention to
the job losses. Go ahead and tax the rich because the middle class is next when
you find out it won't fix the deficit. Maybe save some money by cutting out all
the Czars. The Special Committee that can't balance the budget. Cut Congress pay
since they can't seem to do their job. Cut the oversight committee that doesn't
get anything done either. How about cutting the Government jobs
that the people do not need instead of the programs they do use?

nationaljournal.com

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What will fix the deficit?
and please, something new. you know: something that has been proven to work.
I has never seen such a person like you that makes so many posts that say nothin'!
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The Palestinians supported by Hamas cause trouble wherever they go.
It was Hamas who started firing rockets into Tel Aviv. Why didn't you tell THEM to stop?
Palestinians went to Lebanon in the 1970s to launch attacks on northern Israel and airplane hijacking campaigns worldwide. Palestinians were fighting the Lebanonese at the same time they were launching attacks against Israel. Following the Lebanonese War, Palestinians in Lebanon lost their fight there too.
Even after the Israeli-Palestinian peace process led to the Oslo Accords in 1993 allowing the PLO to relocate to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it had significant opposition among radical Islamic elements such as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad who immediately initiated a campaign of attacks targeting Israelis.
In 1969 alone, the PLO was responsible for hijacking 82 planes.
They murdered 11 Israeli athletes during the 1972 Olympic Games.
Nobody wants this rag tag group of violent people. Not even their own. Jordon didn't want them either. Look up Black September.
They won't be happy until they kill every Jew in Israel.
They kill innocents in the name of hating Israel.
And you're blaming Israel??
Zions have oppression gazans for decades in every way. Most gazas are peaceful peoples that are simply want to live uninhibit. The childs are not any part but zions targeting them still. Plo and Hamas are not representing of majority of gazans. Other regions wish destroy to Israel not the most gazans or their mothers or childs. United State should come to the assist of gazans and require that zions stop the oppress.
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Smart Conservatives to GOP: It's the Economy, Stupid

While many conservative pundits are coming up with explanations for the election results that excuse them from having to make any ideological adjustments to win future elections, some are claiming that they can easily solve their problems. According to the most partisan members of Republican establishment, the GOP has a racial demographic problem, but all they need to do to solve it is to moderate their stance on immigration. Sharper conservative minds, however, recognize that women, young people and minorities have economic and ideological reasons for voting Democratic.

The most egregious and condescending example of the former line of thinking comes from Charles Krauthammer. In his Washington Post column last Thursday, Krauthammer wrote,“They lose and immediately the chorus begins. Republicans must change or die. A rump party of white America, it must adapt to evolving demographics or forever be the minority. The only part of this that is even partially true regards Hispanics.”

Implicit in Krauthammer’s column is the assumption that African-Americans cannot be persuaded to vote Republican, but that Republicans can win without them. That may be so, although he offers no statistical data to prove it. Nor does Krauthammer prove that Latinos are a much more persuadable group for the GOP.

Instead, Krauthammer simply relies upon some broad, ignorant stereotyping of Latinos.“They should be a natural Republican constituency: striving immigrant community, religious, Catholic, family-oriented and socially conservative (on abortion, for example),” he writes.“The principal reason they go Democratic is the issue of illegal immigrants.”

Krauthammer does not offer survey data to prove that Latinos are more “family-oriented” than anyone else. Nor does he explain what “family-oriented” means. That they are more likely to live with extended family? More likely to wait until marriage to have children? The former is true and the latter is not. And what does any of this have to do with political preferences? In fact, African-Americans and Asian-Americans are also more likely to live in a multigenerational household, and they are all more likely to vote Democratic than are whites. In light of that, it is difficult to even ascertain what Krauthammer thinks he is talking about, other than that he apparently assumes Democrats are so evil that surely they must hate their mothers. He should try to interviewing actual Democrats and Latinos sometime, as it might make his analysis a lot better-informed.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171273/smart-co... #

Even National Review, in its post-election editorial, sounded similar notes.“Republicans from the top to the bottom of the ticket did little to make the case that conservative policies would make the broad mass of the public better off,” the editors complained. They went on to call for more sophisticated thinking about these challenges than that which is being displayed.

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Romney's Failure on the Economy
Romney's principal issues were the economy and fixing the finances of the federal government. He failed to make a convincing case that he would do a better job with either.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romneys-f...
Seems there are some real conservative pundits who are somehow not aware that a hurricane won the election. They probably don't watch FOX.
Lol,,,He slammed the 47% for not taking personal responsibility yet he refuses to take personal responsibility for his colossal failure as a candidate. What a joke.

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