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Nightchalker

Lansing, MI

#807456 Nov 18, 2012
yepperz wrote:
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Right,,,because there's no one who tries to manipulate religion to further their political agendas or equates religious beliefs with partisan politics,,,while just about everyone equates baseball and motorcyles? Okay. Got it. Never heard of the Religious right eh?
They are the anti-opposite of the "Religiously Left", and equally worth ignoring cause they are BOTH so annoying!
Orangelion

Chester, UK

#807457 Nov 18, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
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You picked a location in Wales.
Now you call yourself a limey!!!
No self respecting Welshman would ever call himself a limey, ya freakin' American halfwit!!
You're busted, loser!!
Your a typical moron, go on, try changing the location of your unregistered username, dimwit. Americans are thick. I moved to wales you pillack.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#807458 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in adapting to rapidly changing campaigns and an evolving electorate.
http://news.msn.com/politics/republicans-gop-...
Interpretation: Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in smear tactics, spreading outright falsehoods and intentionally dividing the electorate.
People tend to forget that if the election had been held before Hurricane Sandy, the outcome might have been a lot different. Romney lost his momentum while Obama could look presidential in the spotlight.
Obama was losing in the polls and his approval rating didn't improve until after the Hurricane.
Pretty much.
Yep, the hurricane did it.

It wasn't the trashing of blacks & Hispanics by Romney & the right. Nope.

It wasn't trying to blame Obama for the Bush recession, Nope

It wasn't running a Candidate that flipped Flopped on each & every issue.

It wasn't running a Candidate the flubbed his first overseas trip.

It wasn't the constant flow of lies from Romney.

It wasn't his picking a really poor choice for VP.

Nope. it was the hurricane that demonstrated how good Obama dealt with it & an honest Republican Governor that acknowledged this.

Republicans - keep thinking it was just the hurricane & remain the out of touch party that would rather look toward winning the next election rather than help this country.

The problem with the Republican Party was not the hurricane. there weren't enough dumbasses like you who fell for there crap.

The really pathetic part ids that the Republicans called Obama a marxist, socialist, unAmerican while claiming it was his fault for the poor economy & how he dd a terrible job with foreign policy & hell, you even called him a murdered for Benghazi.....And you still couldn't bet him. It says either you people lied or you are evidently at lot worse than the things you said about Obama because he kicked your candidate's ass.
carol

Orlando, FL

#807459 Nov 18, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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Separation of Church & State - something the rabid right seems to forget a they continually try to legislate their religion.
You first have to educate yourself as to the context of that phrase and where it was first said.

You won't find it in the Constitution.

It's intent was to merely prevent another Church of England which dictated one size fits all in the new country.

You all keep getting it backwards. It was to keep government from enforcing one religion for all, not to prevent people from their right to exercise and express their own freedom of religion. Which IS in the Constitution.
Orangelion

Chester, UK

#807460 Nov 18, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
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This orange idiot is one of our old Teabagger fools.
THe ones who were too ashamed to come back as themselves.
They create locations like the UK, but talk like Teabaggers.
And why wouldn't a britishman jokely refer to themselves as limeys? The brits have a sense of humour, although your too ignorant to get past our clevely formed and well structured stiff upper lip.

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#807461 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in adapting to rapidly changing campaigns and an evolving electorate.
http://news.msn.com/politics/republicans-gop-...
Interpretation: Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in smear tactics, spreading outright falsehoods and intentionally dividing the electorate.
People tend to forget that if the election had been held before Hurricane Sandy, the outcome might have been a lot different. Romney lost his momentum while Obama could look presidential in the spotlight.
Obama was losing in the polls and his approval rating didn't improve until after the Hurricane.
Pretty much.
total FOX BS.

Other than the first part. Which is evidently going to bear out in 2014 if your fantasy denial is any indication of how little was learned from the most recent loss of ego of anyone who thought FOX knew what they were taking about and was stupid enough to say so out loud.

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#807462 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in adapting to rapidly changing campaigns and an evolving electorate.
http://news.msn.com/politics/republicans-gop-...
Interpretation: Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in smear tactics, spreading outright falsehoods and intentionally dividing the electorate.
People tend to forget that if the election had been held before Hurricane Sandy, the outcome might have been a lot different. Romney lost his momentum while Obama could look presidential in the spotlight.
Obama was losing in the polls and his approval rating didn't improve until after the Hurricane.
Pretty much.
Lol! Wouldn't ya know it!

O'Reilly Blames Potential Romney Loss on Hurricane Sandy


In the aftermath of last week’s presidential election, one narrative that has emerged in an attempt to explain Mitt Romney’s loss is that Hurricane Sandy halted the Republican candidate’s momentum in the final week before the election.

It’s an interesting theory. The problem is that it isn’t really supported by the facts.

A look back at the data of battleground states that decided the election indicates that Mr. Romney’s rise in the polls there—which was quite real through October—had stalled out the weekend before the hurricane hit.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/13/hurr...

Romney's polling "surge" ended Oct. 12

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...

The first step is admitting you have a problem -

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Nightchalker

Lansing, MI

#807463 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
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The Palestinians supported by Hamas cause trouble wherever they go.
It was Hamas who started firing rockets into Tel Aviv. Why didn't you tell THEM to stop?
Palestinians went to Lebanon in the 1970s to launch attacks on northern Israel and airplane hijacking campaigns worldwide. Palestinians were fighting the Lebanonese at the same time they were launching attacks against Israel. Following the Lebanonese War, Palestinians in Lebanon lost their fight there too.
Even after the Israeli-Palestinian peace process led to the Oslo Accords in 1993 allowing the PLO to relocate to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it had significant opposition among radical Islamic elements such as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad who immediately initiated a campaign of attacks targeting Israelis.
In 1969 alone, the PLO was responsible for hijacking 82 planes.
They murdered 11 Israeli athletes during the 1972 Olympic Games.
Nobody wants this rag tag group of violent people. Not even their own. Jordon didn't want them either. Look up Black September.
They won't be happy until they kill every Jew in Israel.
They kill innocents in the name of hating Israel.
And you're blaming Israel??
They have an entire thread dedicated to it!

Quite the hoot, I can tell you.

They got some BELIEVERS on THAT thread, those boys sure are tough(just ask em!), and they don't like them no jews no-how!

Complete stool samples, going on and on about the jews this and the jews that!

Nuf to make ya cry laughing!

Till they start with how "interesting" "solving" the "jewish problem" will be.

Genocide by any other name still smells as bad.

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#807464 Nov 18, 2012
GOP flame-throwers estranged from reality after election

You are a moocher, a zombie, soulless, mouth-breathing, ignorant, greedy, self-indulgent, envious, shallow and lazy.

The foregoing is a summation of “analysis” from conservative pundits and media figures — Cal Thomas, Ted Nugent, Bill O’Reilly and etcetera — seeking to explain Mitt Romney’s emphatic defeat. They seem to have settled on a strategy of blaming the voters for not being smart enough or good enough to vote as they should have. Because America wasn’t smart enough or good enough, say these conservatives, it shredded the constitution, bear hugged chaos, French kissed socialism, and died.
In other words, the apocalypse is coming.

Granted, such thinking does not represent the totality of conservative response to the election. The reliably sensible columnist Kathleen Parker offered a, well .&#8201;.&#8201;. reliably sensible take on what’s wrong with the Republican Party. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal spoke thoughtfully to Politico about how conservatism must change to meet the challenges of the future.

Unfortunately, for every Parker or Jindal, there is a Donald Trump urging revolution or a petition drive advocating secession from the Union. And just when you think you’ve heard it all, just when you think you could not possibly be more astonished at how panic-stricken and estranged from reality much of the political right now is, there comes word of Henry Hamilton’s suicide.

He was the 64-year-old owner of a tanning salon in Key West. As recently reported in The Miami Herald, he was found dead two days after the election with empty prescription bottles next to him, one for a drug to treat anxiety, another for a drug to treat schizophrenia. Hamilton, according to his partner, Michael Cossey, was stressed about his business and had said that if President Obama were re-elected,“I’m not going to be around.” Police found his will, upon which was scrawled “F--- Obama.”

Sometimes, they act — the Hannitys, the O’Reillys, the Trumps, the Limbaughs, the whole conservative political infotainment complex — as if this were all a game, as if their nonstop litany of half truths, untruths and fear mongering, their echo chamber of studied outrage, practiced panic, intellectual incoherence and unadulterated equine feculence, had no human consequences. Sometimes, they behave as if it were morally permissible — indeed, morally required — to say whatever asinine, indefensible, coarse or outrageous thing comes to mind in the name of defeating or diminishing the dreaded left. And never mind that vulnerable people might hear this and shape their beliefs accordingly.

Did the conservative political infotainment complex kill Henry Hamilton? No.

But were they the water in which he swam, a Greek chorus echoing and magnifying the outsized panic that troubled his unwell mind? It seems quite likely.

One hopes, without any real expectation, that Hamilton’s death will give pause to the flame throwers on the right. One hopes, without any real expectation, that somebody will feel a twinge of conscience. Or shame.

But that will not happen.

Because, what you see here is not the behavior of calculating showmen who don’t believe half the garbage they say. If it were, we might have hope.

But these, I have come to believe, are not showmen. They are zealots. They do believe half the garbage they say, and they have microphones to say it with. That is infinitely more frightening.

So one can only hope, with slightly more expectation, that the GOP will finally disenthrall itself from this ongoing affront to decency and intelligence and thereby render it moot.

Until it does, we can only absorb the impact of these regularly scheduled meltdowns. And pity the likes of Henry Hamilton.

For him, the apocalypse already came.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/17/3102291...

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carol

Orlando, FL

#807465 Nov 18, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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Yep, the hurricane did it.
It wasn't the trashing of blacks & Hispanics by Romney & the right. Nope.
It wasn't trying to blame Obama for the Bush recession, Nope
It wasn't running a Candidate that flipped Flopped on each & every issue.
It wasn't running a Candidate the flubbed his first overseas trip.
It wasn't the constant flow of lies from Romney.
It wasn't his picking a really poor choice for VP.
Nope. it was the hurricane that demonstrated how good Obama dealt with it & an honest Republican Governor that acknowledged this.
Republicans - keep thinking it was just the hurricane & remain the out of touch party that would rather look toward winning the next election rather than help this country.
The problem with the Republican Party was not the hurricane. there weren't enough dumbasses like you who fell for there crap.
The really pathetic part ids that the Republicans called Obama a marxist, socialist, unAmerican while claiming it was his fault for the poor economy & how he dd a terrible job with foreign policy & hell, you even called him a murdered for Benghazi.....And you still couldn't bet him. It says either you people lied or you are evidently at lot worse than the things you said about Obama because he kicked your candidate's ass.
No one trashed blacks and Hispanics. Romney simply misspoke about the 47% whose vote he would not get in light of the fact that we have actually become a nanny state.

Obama IS responsible for an inexcusable slow recovery and increasing the deficit by leaps and bounds more than Bush ever did after both Democrats and Republicans created the housing mortgage crisis.

Romney just repeated what had been published in the newspapers weeks before the Olympics and what Londoners had been complaining about long before he got there.

Romney changed his mind on abortion as governor.

Obama "evolved" on the issue of gay marriage just months before the election.

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carol

Orlando, FL

#807466 Nov 18, 2012
yepperz wrote:
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Lol! Wouldn't ya know it!
O'Reilly Blames Potential Romney Loss on Hurricane Sandy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WQfuId0hxH8XX
In the aftermath of last week’s presidential election, one narrative that has emerged in an attempt to explain Mitt Romney’s loss is that Hurricane Sandy halted the Republican candidate’s momentum in the final week before the election.
It’s an interesting theory. The problem is that it isn’t really supported by the facts.
A look back at the data of battleground states that decided the election indicates that Mr. Romney’s rise in the polls there—which was quite real through October—had stalled out the weekend before the hurricane hit.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/13/hurr...
Romney's polling "surge" ended Oct. 12
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...
The first step is admitting you have a problem -
Seems Huffington Post agrees.

MENTOR, Ohio -- Republicans aren't the only ones who think that Hurricane Sandy has helped President Barack Obama politically.

"I hate to say it, but with that storm I think the atmosphere went up," said Holly Brindley, a 57-year-old volunteer for the Obama campaign.

Numerous voters said they felt the president's response to the storm helped him push back what had been a slow, steady move by Republican nominee Mitt Romney to pick up ground in the polls.

"The storm took a lot of political coverage out of the news, and I think maybe that stopped the momentum," she one voter, Roxanne Hustek.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/03/hurr...

Roxanne was right.

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carol

Orlando, FL

#807467 Nov 18, 2012
Nightchalker wrote:
<quoted text>They have an entire thread dedicated to it!
Quite the hoot, I can tell you.
They got some BELIEVERS on THAT thread, those boys sure are tough(just ask em!), and they don't like them no jews no-how!
Complete stool samples, going on and on about the jews this and the jews that!
Nuf to make ya cry laughing!
Till they start with how "interesting" "solving" the "jewish problem" will be.
Genocide by any other name still smells as bad.
It's why the entire planet is screwed too.

But I loved the "stool samples" insult. Probably because it's what I type at least once every day in my line of work.

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Orangelion

Chester, UK

#807468 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
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No one trashed blacks and Hispanics. Romney simply misspoke about the 47% whose vote he would not get in light of the fact that we have actually become a nanny state.
Obama IS responsible for an inexcusable slow recovery and increasing the deficit by leaps and bounds more than Bush ever did after both Democrats and Republicans created the housing mortgage crisis.
Romney just repeated what had been published in the newspapers weeks before the Olympics and what Londoners had been complaining about long before he got there.
Romney changed his mind on abortion as governor.
Obama "evolved" on the issue of gay marriage just months before the election.
It is mainly feminists, muslims, and gays who blocked Mitt Romney from winning the election.

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#807469 Nov 18, 2012
The Party’s Problem
From the forthcoming issue of NATIONAL REVIEW

By Ramesh Ponnuru

Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333344...

The absence of a middle-class message was the biggest failure of the Romney campaign, and it was not its failure alone. Down-ticket Republican candidates weren’t offering anything more — not the established Republicans, not the tea-partiers, not the social conservatives. Conservative activists weren’t demanding that Romney or any of these other Republicans do anything more. Some of them were complaining that Romney wasn’t “taking the fight to Obama”; few of them were urging him to outline a health-care plan that would reassure voters that replacing Obamacare wouldn’t mean taking health insurance away from millions of people.

Romney’s infamous “47 percent” gaffe — by which he characterized voters who do not pay income taxes as freeloaders and sure Democratic voters, which they aren’t — made for a week of bad media coverage and some devastatingly effective Democratic ads. It was not, however, a line of thinking unique to Romney. It was an exaggerated version of a claim that had become party orthodoxy.

A different Republican presidential nominee might not have made exactly that gaffe, or had a financial-industry background that lent itself to attacks on outsourcing. He would almost certainly have had a similar weakness on economic policy, however, and might have had additional weaknesses too.(Romney at least won independent voters, which it’s hard to imagine Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, or Rick Santorum having done.) To put it differently: The problem isn’t so much that Romney was vulnerable to a set of attacks that appear to have discouraged working-class whites from voting; it’s that he didn’t have anything positive with which to counter those attacks.

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#807470 Nov 18, 2012
Running From Romney: the GOP’s Phony New Compassion

Let’s match this lovely rhetoric to the Republican record of the past decade or so.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11...

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#807471 Nov 18, 2012
The Obama campaign ran a very good campaign. The Republicans did not. There was no fraud. There was no stealing the election. There was just a really good ground game from Barack Obama and a lot of smoke and mirrors from Team Romney and outside charlatans, many of whom will now go work for Republican Super PACs making six figure salaries, further draining the pockets of rich Republicans when not on television explaining how awesome and expert they are.

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/07/status-quo...

Americans wanted to assess a contrast between the candidates and got blurred lines instead. They went with the politician they knew instead of the one who was different depending on the election season, constituency, and time of day.

At the same time, Romney made a conscious decision to blow off Hispanic voters. Yes conservatives, we must account for this. The Romney campaign to the hispanic community was atrocious and, frankly, the fastest growing demographic in America isn’t going to vote for a party that sounds like that party hates brown people.
Orangelion

Chester, UK

#807472 Nov 18, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
The Party’s Problem
From the forthcoming issue of NATIONAL REVIEW
By Ramesh Ponnuru
Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333344...
The absence of a middle-class message was the biggest failure of the Romney campaign, and it was not its failure alone. Down-ticket Republican candidates weren’t offering anything more — not the established Republicans, not the tea-partiers, not the social conservatives. Conservative activists weren’t demanding that Romney or any of these other Republicans do anything more. Some of them were complaining that Romney wasn’t “taking the fight to Obama”; few of them were urging him to outline a health-care plan that would reassure voters that replacing Obamacare wouldn’t mean taking health insurance away from millions of people.
Romney’s infamous “47 percent” gaffe — by which he characterized voters who do not pay income taxes as freeloaders and sure Democratic voters, which they aren’t — made for a week of bad media coverage and some devastatingly effective Democratic ads. It was not, however, a line of thinking unique to Romney. It was an exaggerated version of a claim that had become party orthodoxy.
A different Republican presidential nominee might not have made exactly that gaffe, or had a financial-industry background that lent itself to attacks on outsourcing. He would almost certainly have had a similar weakness on economic policy, however, and might have had additional weaknesses too.(Romney at least won independent voters, which it’s hard to imagine Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, or Rick Santorum having done.) To put it differently: The problem isn’t so much that Romney was vulnerable to a set of attacks that appear to have discouraged working-class whites from voting; it’s that he didn’t have anything positive with which to counter those attacks.
Anybody who doesn't pay taxes obviously are the people Obama favours. Democrats, and the rich. Obama only wants to get more out of the middle and lower class, he is ruthless about it, so he only lets off the people he likes, typical attitude of a narcissist.

Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#807473 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
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Seems Huffington Post agrees.
MENTOR, Ohio -- Republicans aren't the only ones who think that Hurricane Sandy has helped President Barack Obama politically.
"I hate to say it, but with that storm I think the atmosphere went up," said Holly Brindley, a 57-year-old volunteer for the Obama campaign.
Numerous voters said they felt the president's response to the storm helped him push back what had been a slow, steady move by Republican nominee Mitt Romney to pick up ground in the polls.
"The storm took a lot of political coverage out of the news, and I think maybe that stopped the momentum," she one voter, Roxanne Hustek.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/03/hurr...
Roxanne was right.
Here is Huffington Post's national trendlines, showing the major events since the beginning of October. Blue is Obama, red is Romney.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/... #!minpct=42.5&maxpct=52.5 &mindate=2012-10-01&es timate=custom

Though Republicans believe the storm damaged Romney’s momentum, Sandy’s political impact may have had more to do with Obama’s rapid response to the storm, which 77 percent of Americans praised. Moreover, Romney’s alleged momentum was already slowing; his favorability ratings began gradually declining after his first debate against the president. In Sandy’s aftermath, Romney was widely criticized for an insensitive “storm relief” rally in Ohio, where his campaign staff staged donations and took photos of the candidate posing with canned goods.

Stop making excuses, it sounds pathetic. He was already losing. Face it Carol, Romney sucked.

Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#807475 Nov 18, 2012
carol wrote:
Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in adapting to rapidly changing campaigns and an evolving electorate.
http://news.msn.com/politics/republicans-gop-...
Interpretation: Almost everyone asked about the Republicans' election drubbing this year seems to agree that an update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in smear tactics, spreading outright falsehoods and intentionally dividing the electorate.
People tend to forget that if the election had been held before Hurricane Sandy, the outcome might have been a lot different. Romney lost his momentum while Obama could look presidential in the spotlight.
Obama was losing in the polls and his approval rating didn't improve until after the Hurricane.
Pretty much.
Shall we blame this on Sandy as well??

The Economist: "The Democrats won 50.6% of the votes for president, to 47.8% for the Republicans; 53.6% of the votes for the Senate, to 42.9% for the Republicans; and...49% of the votes for the House, to 48.2% for the Republicans (some ballots are still being counted). That's not a vote for divided government. It's a clean sweep.

" http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#807476 Nov 18, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
The Obama campaign ran a very good campaign. The Republicans did not. There was no fraud. There was no stealing the election. There was just a really good ground game from Barack Obama and a lot of smoke and mirrors from Team Romney and outside charlatans, many of whom will now go work for Republican Super PACs making six figure salaries, further draining the pockets of rich Republicans when not on television explaining how awesome and expert they are.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/07/status-quo...
Americans wanted to assess a contrast between the candidates and got blurred lines instead. They went with the politician they knew instead of the one who was different depending on the election season, constituency, and time of day.
At the same time, Romney made a conscious decision to blow off Hispanic voters. Yes conservatives, we must account for this. The Romney campaign to the hispanic community was atrocious and, frankly, the fastest growing demographic in America isn’t going to vote for a party that sounds like that party hates brown people.
Obama Voters,

I hope they are paying attention. Attention to
the job losses. Go ahead and tax the rich because the middle class is next when
you find out it won't fix the deficit. Maybe save some money by cutting out all
the Czars. The Special Committee that can't balance the budget. Cut Congress pay
since they can't seem to do their job. Cut the oversight committee that doesn't
get anything done either. How about cutting the Government jobs
that the people do not need instead of the programs they do use?

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