Barack Obama, our next President

[Republican Honey]

Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:

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Exactly

Exactly??????? What is wrong with you?

The argument that she has the right to choose what happens to her own body is markedly flawed. The same ones who want to give a woman the right for an abortion would condemn women for smoking and fight what was her 'choice', clearly affecting her own body. In abortion, the baby is clearly separate in content and being than the mother. It is only riding with the mother for a few months. As Christians, we should protect the helpless, including the unborn individual as it grows. Why doesn't anyone expose that the reason for an abortion is simply selfishness? The mother's 'choice' is simply what inconvenience she wants to escape.

I believe the reason people call for abortion to be legal is, simply put, selfishness. The abortion occurs as the mother (maybe under other's pressure) does not want the baby. Others do not want to feel the guilt of not picking up the pieces to help an unwanted baby. They selfishly want to spend their money on themselves and their wants rather than to sacrifice some for unwanted or unsupported babies. The mother puts her own wants above the baby's needs.

Currently in medicine, we have advanced our technology and understanding to be able to care for and nourish very early premature infants, even into the second trimester. People easily agree they have rights but across town another, same gestational age infant is snatched from the mother's body in a horrific manner. Where should we draw the line? The only answer that can be medically supported is before conception.

It isn't just another 'procedure' in medicine. Having helped and performed many 'procedures', there is virtually nothing as disgusting as the suction causing ripping and destruction of formed placental and fetal tissue that occurs with an abortion, not to mention the pain imposed on the fetus being torn apart. This is not meant to be sensational, although it is. This is to make the point that medical 'procedures' are to fix a problem and nearly all are neat and clean with this exception. When physicians remove a uterus, for example, they do their best to remove it intact. Not so with an abortion. The goal is simple evacuation. Doctors are sworn to stand up for life and to minimize suffering for all patients. Those who perform abortions have violated the Hippocratic oath. They forget that the fetus is a patient too.

http://dutyisours.com/abortion.htm

[Republican Honey]

Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:

<quoted text>The number of partial birth abortions in this country pales in comparison to the number of women who died as a result of illegal abortion in any trimester. Don't tell me you're not callous about their human lives, or the lives of the children they bear if they don't abort - your every post on the subject intimates that you not only place the life of the fetus over hers, but that you couldn't possibly care less about the life these children are born to. Once they're born, your eyes weep over the next fetus, and if you had your way, the net society throws to catch them once they leave the womb, would leave your precious wallet untouched.
You are pro-fetus......not pro-life.

The argument that she has the right to choose what happens to her own body is markedly flawed. The same ones who want to give a woman the right for an abortion would condemn women for smoking and fight what was her 'choice', clearly affecting her own body. In abortion, the baby is clearly separate in content and being than the mother. It is only riding with the mother for a few months. As Christians, we should protect the helpless, including the unborn individual as it grows. Why doesn't anyone expose that the reason for an abortion is simply selfishness? The mother's 'choice' is simply what inconvenience she wants to escape.

I believe the reason people call for abortion to be legal is, simply put, selfishness. The abortion occurs as the mother (maybe under other's pressure) does not want the baby. Others do not want to feel the guilt of not picking up the pieces to help an unwanted baby. They selfishly want to spend their money on themselves and their wants rather than to sacrifice some for unwanted or unsupported babies. The mother puts her own wants above the baby's needs.

Currently in medicine, we have advanced our technology and understanding to be able to care for and nourish very early premature infants, even into the second trimester. People easily agree they have rights but across town another, same gestational age infant is snatched from the mother's body in a horrific manner. Where should we draw the line? The only answer that can be medically supported is before conception.

It isn't just another 'procedure' in medicine. Having helped and performed many 'procedures', there is virtually nothing as disgusting as the suction causing ripping and destruction of formed placental and fetal tissue that occurs with an abortion, not to mention the pain imposed on the fetus being torn apart. This is not meant to be sensational, although it is. This is to make the point that medical 'procedures' are to fix a problem and nearly all are neat and clean with this exception. When physicians remove a uterus, for example, they do their best to remove it intact. Not so with an abortion. The goal is simple evacuation. Doctors are sworn to stand up for life and to minimize suffering for all patients. Those who perform abortions have violated the Hippocratic oath. They forget that the fetus is a patient too.

http://dutyisours.com/abortion.htm

[John Shaft]

(QUOTE) who="nova0311"]<q uoted text>
Wrong answer, patbmak. My flag will stay out front every day. Throwing a fit because your candidate lost puts you down on Michelle's level. Rise above that. I am proud to be an American no matter what. I didn't take my flag down during the Carter debacle. I didn't take my flag down when Clinton disgraced the Oval Office (both literally and figuratively). I'm not taking my flag down now, either. If Obama makes good on his dozens of pie-in-the-sky promises, great, good for him. If he doesn't, well, that's why we have term limits.(QUOTE)

Extremely well said! I could not agree more.

[sonicfilter]

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal hurled harsh criticism at his own party after the GOP was blindsided in the 2012 elections, telling Republicans to end "dumbed-down conservatism" by putting a stop to "offensive, bizarre" comments.

“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments -- enough of that,” Jindal told Politico.“It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Jindal told Politico Republicans should “stop being the stupid party” by working to embrace a larger group of constituents rather than becoming the party of "big anything."

The GOP governor criticized the idea that the GOP is "the party that simply protects the rich." Jindal even took a jab at Mitt Romney's now-infamous "47 percent" remarks, noting Republicans would have to be more inclusive going forward.

“The Republican Party is going to fight for every single vote,” he said.“That means the 47 percent and the 53 percent, that means any other combination of numbers going up to 100 percent.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/bobb...

[THE DEBIL]

sonicfilter wrote:

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal hurled harsh criticism at his own party after the GOP was blindsided in the 2012 elections, telling Republicans to end "dumbed-down conservatism" by putting a stop to "offensive, bizarre" comments.
“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments -- enough of that,” Jindal told Politico.“It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”
Jindal told Politico Republicans should “stop being the stupid party” by working to embrace a larger group of constituents rather than becoming the party of "big anything."
The GOP governor criticized the idea that the GOP is "the party that simply protects the rich." Jindal even took a jab at Mitt Romney's now-infamous "47 percent" remarks, noting Republicans would have to be more inclusive going forward.
“The Republican Party is going to fight for every single vote,” he said.“That means the 47 percent and the 53 percent, that means any other combination of numbers going up to 100 percent.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/bobb...

YOU'RE UP LATE. I'VE BEEN OUT INCITING... UM.. A "REVISITING" IN COUNTRIES WHERE THERE ARE MORMON MISSIONARIES.... LIKE FRANCE, APPARENTLY. IT'S NOT SAFE TO RIDE YOUR BICYCLE WITH A WHITE SHIRT AND LITTLE BLACK TIE (DID WILLARD WEAR A TIE?) IN SOME OF THESE PLACES NOW. I'D LIKE TO THINK I PLAYED A SMALL PART IN THAT...

[THE DEBIL]

shinningelectr0n wrote:

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"...and a child shall lead them."

THE THING ABOUT BEING LED BY A CHILD, DEARIE, IS THAT YOU'RE OBLIGED TO EAT SODAS, PIZZA, AND ICE CREAM FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND DINNER. MAYBE YOU CAN FIND AN ADULT TO LEAD THEM INSTEAD?

[THE DEBIL]

John Shaft wrote:

(QUOTE) who="nova0311"]<q uoted text>
Wrong answer, patbmak. My flag will stay out front every day. Throwing a fit because your candidate lost puts you down on Michelle's level. Rise above that. I am proud to be an American no matter what. I didn't take my flag down during the Carter debacle. I didn't take my flag down when Clinton disgraced the Oval Office (both literally and figuratively). I'm not taking my flag down now, either. If Obama makes good on his dozens of pie-in-the-sky promises, great, good for him. If he doesn't, well, that's why we have term limits.(QUOTE)
Extremely well said! I could not agree more.

WHO CARES? I MEAN, REALLY, WHO CARES?

[THE DEBIL]

shinningelectr0n wrote:

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A five minute DEBIL stroll through a Nursery and every plant would be dead. And that's with his mouth shut.

YE-ES, I'VE NEVER BEEN GOOD WITH PLANTS. DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T LIKE THEM, MIND YOU... YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE LEFT, DEARIE... CAROL'S A WRECK, THERE'S A SMATTERING OF OTHERS BUT THEY'RE EITHER DISGUSTED OR FRIGHTENED... AND YOUR MEN ARE ALL GONE EXCEPT FOR THE NUTS AND MUDDY, WHO'S DYING. SO, UM, DO YOU MEAN TO GO TO THE WALL HERE? IS THIS YOUR LAST, NOBLE GESTURE? IT'S JUST WORDS... DON'T GIVE UP...

[THE DEBIL]

IS THIS IT? WAS ALL THIS HEAD TRAUMA REALLY ABOUT ABORTION? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... YES, I SUPPOSE IT WAS... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. . GOOD GOD, PEOPLE, DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO? THAT DRIP, DRIP, DRIP SOUND IS YOUR OWN LIFE SLIPPING AWAY... AND YOU'VE DECIDED TO SPEND IT ONLINE DEFENDING THE RIGHTS OF THE "UNBORN?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

MUDDY, OLD FELLOW, THE DEBIL WANTS TO HONE IN ON YOU FOR A MOMENT OR TWO... HOW MUCH LONGER HAVE YOU GOT?

[THE DEBIL]

THE DEVIL COMES OUT AT NIGHT, DEARIES, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE....

[THE DEBIL]

OH NOOOOOOOO!!!! PAPA JOHN'S??? APPLEBEEEEE'S!!! WHATEVER WILL THE NATION DO WITHOUT THEM WHEN THEY MOVE TO AFRICA OR WHEREVER? "WILL THAT BE THICK CRUST OR A PINEAPPLE LATTE'? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUPERSIZE YOUR FAT ASS?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... TURNS OUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIABETES IN GALT'S GULCH. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHA...

[THE DEBIL]

I THINK I'D LIKE TO START MY SECOND TERM BY OUTLAWING MALLS. YES... THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START: DISMANTLING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE...

[PDUPONT]

carol wrote:

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The American people also favored reelecting Obama. Let's let them have their wish and see if Obama and the Democrats can fix this mess or go down in flames.
That's what Republicans should do. Creating a gridlock to prevent the worst from happening will backfire. Liberals will blame them and have a scapegoat. They need to get out of the way, let the worst happen and come out on top blameless in 2014 and 2016. That's what I think anyway.

Carol, the Republicans have been creating gridlock for the past four years to prevent anything from happening. They blocked the American Jobs Act which would have added jobs and brought unemployment down.
–Moody’s Analytics estimated the American Jobs Act would create 1.9 million jobs and add two percent to gross domestic product.
–The Economic Policy Institute estimated it would create 2.6 million jobs and protect an addition 1.6 million existing jobs.
–Macroeconomic Advisers predicted it would create 2.1 million jobs and boost GDP by 1.5 percent.
–Goldman Sachs estimated it would add 1.5 percent to GDP.

[PDUPONT]

carol wrote:

Also, PDupont, the people in Massachusetts favored Romneycare by over 60%. It was just the opposite with Obamacare. Americans were against it by over 60%.

The American people are warming up to Obamacare now that they're seeing the benefits as opposed to the lies the right has been spreading. The latest polls show that those who want it to stay and even expand stands at 49% as opposed to 33% that want it repealed.
As for Massachusetts, we are one of the most highly educated states. Romney wouldn't have had a chance passing this legislation in a red state like Alabama.

[Obama Won Woo Hoo]

sage won wrote:

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10 minutes on CBS news tonight about who might have been boinking who, nothing about Obama's malfeasance and incompetence in Libya.
It's only sex, right Mr. Clinton?

Excellent and exact point.

Fox is criticized. Where are the other "journalists?"

If this was about GWB, they'd be all over it. We haven't seen such voluntary media blackout, since the Kremlin.

[Obama Won Woo Hoo]

THE DEBIL wrote:

GOD WON'T SAVE CAROL AND NEITHER WILL YOU. SHE'S DONE. I'M JUST PLAYING NOW. BUT YOU PEOPLE FASCINATE ME... WHATEVER DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN WHEN SHE'S GONE? DID YOU IMAGINE THAT "INTELLECTUAL ELITES" WAS SIMPLY A TALKING POINT ON FOX NEWS? NO, DEAR, WE'RE REAL. WE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE MUCH, MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU, AND, WHAT'S MORE, WE'RE IN CHARGE.

LOL. If you are an "intellectual elite" we are done for. America is truly dumbed down, and the inmates are running the asylum. The only thing worse would be Biden in the Oval Office.

[PDUPONT]

carol wrote:

Besides, PDupont, the Supreme Court ruled that Obamacare is just another tax.
Romneycare didn't raise taxes in Massachusetts because the federal government picked up half the cost, thanks to Ted Kennedy.
You remember Ted Kennedy? The former Governor of Massachusetts? The socialist democrat who preceded Barack Obama?
Where is the federal government going to get those same funds?
Did I hear you say "from the taxpayers"? Because that's exactly right.

Het Stupid! Ted Kennedy was never the Governor of Massachusetts he was the US Senator from the state.
Yes Romney used federal tax dollars to make Romneycare work just like he took federal dollars for the Olympics in Salt Lake City.
You right wingers love throwing around the word "socialist". If looking out for the middle class, workers and the poor is socialism, then fine. Jesus was a socialist you clueless twit.

[Aphelion]

PDUPONT wrote:

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Het Stupid! Ted Kennedy was never the Governor of Massachusetts he was the US Senator from the state.
Yes Romney used federal tax dollars to make Romneycare work just like he took federal dollars for the Olympics in Salt Lake City.
You right wingers love throwing around the word "socialist". If looking out for the middle class, workers and the poor is socialism, then fine. Jesus was a socialist you clueless twit.

It’s funny to hear liberals evoke Jesus when they believe that it suits them, while they continually attempt to tear down Christianity in this country.

To address your reply … what exactly does Jesus have to do with Secular America and the government mandated altruism forced upon these citizens?

There appears no end to the hypocrisy of the left in this country, as they have no shame.

[Waxman]

PDUPONT wrote:

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Carol, the Republicans have been creating gridlock for the past four years to prevent anything from happening. They blocked the American Jobs Act which would have added jobs and brought unemployment down.
–Moody’s Analytics estimated the American Jobs Act would create 1.9 million jobs and add two percent to gross domestic product.
–The Economic Policy Institute estimated it would create 2.6 million jobs and protect an addition 1.6 million existing jobs.
–Macroeconomic Advisers predicted it would create 2.1 million jobs and boost GDP by 1.5 percent.
–Goldman Sachs estimated it would add 1.5 percent to GDP.

You are such a flake. Why no link, Boris?

Is it because a propoganda boy like you dug thi up on the "ThinkProgress" propoganda website?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/09/07/8...

Bawwwaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!

You are an idiot.

[sonicfilter]

Post-Pew poll: Fiscal cliff negotiations predicted to fail

But Republicans in Congress may face more public pressure to make concessions. Should negotiations break down to avoid the $500 billion rash of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, 53 percent are inclined to blame Republicans in Congress while 29 percent single out Obama.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...