Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Read more
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802136 Nov 11, 2012
The millionaires and billionaires who gave nearly $500 million to independent groups in the race to elect Mitt Romney and other Republicans not only bet on the wrong party, they bet on the wrong tactic. They believed that an endless drumbeat of television advertisements would be enough to drive voters away from President
It did not work....

There is something supremely cynical about the notion among Republican conservatives that they could use their ability to make unlimited contributions to “super PACs” and shadowy social-welfare groups to buy an election. It views voters as a flock of sheep, easily hypnotized by misleading ads, willing to believe whatever wealthy industrialists tell them about taxes, jobs and health care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/opinion/sun...
Logic

United States

#802137 Nov 11, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
The millionaires and billionaires who gave nearly $500 million to independent groups in the race to elect Mitt Romney and other Republicans not only bet on the wrong party, they bet on the wrong tactic. They believed that an endless drumbeat of television advertisements would be enough to drive voters away from President
It did not work....
There is something supremely cynical about the notion among Republican conservatives that they could use their ability to make unlimited contributions to ?super PACs? and shadowy social-welfare groups to buy an election. It views voters as a flock of sheep, easily hypnotized by misleading ads, willing to believe whatever wealthy industrialists tell them about taxes, jobs and health care.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/opinion/sun...
They used bogus polls from Fox leading up to the election indicating Romney was going to win the election by a landslide.

It's amazing because Fox and their supporters claim they are so smart but end up looking like big dopes.
FORWARD to Obamageddon

Piscataway, NJ

#802138 Nov 11, 2012
OBAMA the GENIUS wrote:
A "good" guy?
Who leaves 72 million without affordable guaranteed by law healthcare! To die in the street! And lies about it on live tv!
A guy who threatens workers with lies about Chrysler?
A guy who personally cut 50,000 jobs? For monetary gain.
No. Not a good guy at all: A LOSER!
<quoted text>
Oh please. Die in the street? People who aren't even US Citizens fly in here from all over the world and have a "sudden illness" requiring hospital care. They leave with an IOU to US taxpayers but only a fraction actually pay us back... And whether you have private insurance, are on Medicaid, or just snuck across the Mexican border, in New York you have access to the best hospitals and doctors. When my brother-inlaw was hospitalized for serious surgery, he had the same expensive physician as two roommates who were on Medicaid. The poor also have their transportation to doctor visits provided or subsidized.

And just hold onto your seat about job cuts when the defense cuts come.

Otherwise, the Romneys have generously donated time and money to help many people. Way more in proportion to income than Obama or Biden ever have. Obama Biden are only generous with taxpayer money. And unlike Obama's two fictional, distorted, warped biographies that few bothered to read or question, Romney's life story is an open book and a good book.

But hey, Obama is great. Right before the election Bill Clinton said so and spoke about Romney in terms of getting your hand caught in a cookie jar and against liars. Bill Clinton. LOL.

I am grinning like a cheshire cat as I type this, speaking of which wouldn't it be something if Biden ever had to step in?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802139 Nov 11, 2012
The Losing Habit

How long will the GOP stay in denial?

To break the losing habit, Republicans must resist the temptation to make excuses. We should dismiss the following thoughts from our minds: it was Hurricane Sandy’s fault; it was Chris Christie’s fault; the mainstream media gave Obama a pass on Benghazi; a Mormon can never be president; a private-equity guy can never be president; the Tea Party went too far; the Dems’ ground game was better in Ohio.

Forget all that. These are just ways of denying the deeper causes of Mitt Romney’s defeat. Until we face up to these, we will keep on losing. Indeed, I predict now that we will lose in 2016, even when faced with a less ruthlessly effective campaigner than President Obama.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/11...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802140 Nov 11, 2012
Logic wrote:
<quoted text>
They used bogus polls from Fox leading up to the election indicating Romney was going to win the election by a landslide.
It's amazing because Fox and their supporters claim they are so smart but end up looking like big dopes.
I sympathize with people who supported Romney for good, principled reasons, because they were being lied to throughout the year. First, Romney lied to them that they could trust him, and then Romney’s boosters in conservative media lied to them by painting them a rosy portrait of the political landscape that they had to know was almost certainly wrong.

But the problem wasn’t just that conservative media gave Romney supporters bad information. The people in conservative media also seem to have been fully taken in by the idea that Romney would win and would do so in decisive fashion, and the campaign came to believe its own propaganda, too. As York notes, Romney didn’t have a prepared concession speech. It apparently never occurred to his campaign that he would lose. That’s not so remarkable by itself, but it is just one part of the overall pattern of the Romney campaign and the conservative movement’s reaction to Obama. Romney spent years running against a fantasy record and campaigning on a series of gross distortions and falsehoods, and so it shouldn’t be too surprising that his campaign and his conservative media boosters didn’t have the firmest grip on political reality.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...
Imhotep

United States

#802141 Nov 11, 2012
Logic wrote:
<quoted text>
They used bogus polls from Fox leading up to the election indicating Romney was going to win the election by a landslide.
It's amazing because Fox and their supporters claim they are so smart but end up looking like big dopes.
Because they’re in psychological denial, a masterpiece of banal self-delusion, completely untethered from reality.

It will come as little surprise to intellectually honest Americans who appreciate good journalism that a study published December 10th by the University of Maryland, found that people who turn to Fox News on a regular basis are the most ill-informed of all voters who read newspapers, news magazines or tune into radio-TV news outlets.

The study entitled, "Misinformation and the 2010 Election," found that the majority of American voters didn’t have their facts straight when it came to very topical events and issues.

Most voters did recognize that prior to the November elections, they were being bombarded with misinformation.

The challenge for most consumers then, was determining which news sources were the most trustworthy and reliable.

Regular viewers of Fox News may be among the most loyal, but the study showed that they are the most ill-informed.

The study surveyed 616 voters; the margin of error in the study’s conclusions is 3.9%. Participants were asked straightforward questions about the following topics:

The state of the economy
The unemployment rate
The healthcare reform act passed by Congress
The size of the budget deficit
The package of Congressional legislation designed to stimulate the economy, also known as the stimulus bill
The amount of federal income taxes you pay
The government bailout of banks and financial institutions, also known as TARP
The war in Afghanistan
The proposed cap and trade bill designed to address climate change
The bailout program for Chrysler and General Motors
The possibility that large amounts of foreign money were being used by the US Chamber of Commerce to influence the election

Fox viewers were the most likely participants in the survey to respond with inaccurate facts and misinformation, e.g.:

http://www.examiner.com/article/surprise-surp...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802142 Nov 11, 2012
Frank Luntz: Fox Viewers "Ought To Be Outraged Because, Day In And Day Out, They Were Told" Romney Would Win
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/10/fran...

After Election Losses, Media Agree That Fox News Has Damaged The GOP

The American Prospect's Paul Waldman wrote that Fox and other conservative media are effective at "whipping up stories out of nothing and forcing the mainstream media to pay attention, capable of keeping their troops in line and bucking up their morale, capable of quickly disseminating messages far and wide, creating new stars and enforcing discipline." But, he added, the success of this misinformation resulted in the "single most damaging moment for Mitt Romney in this election, the 47 percent tape." Waldman further wrote that Fox and other conservative media may be "the right's Achilles' Heel."

Salon's Alex Pareene suggested that Fox "knows it's constantly lying to its audience" and that it discovered "constant lying isn't [a] consistently effective electoral strategy." Conor Friedersdorf of The Atlantic likewise argued that misinformation from Fox and conservative media cost Romney the election and wrote that "right-leaning outlets like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's show are far more intellectually closed than CNN or public radio. If you're a rank-and-file conservative, you're probably ready to acknowledge that ideologically friendly media didn't accurately inform you about Election 2012."

And The Telegraph's Dan Hodes, in a column headlined "Fox News is killing the Republican party," even posited that "Fox News, widely perceived to be one of the Republican party's greatest assets, has actually become a liability to it....
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/10/after...
FORWARD to Obamageddon

Piscataway, NJ

#802143 Nov 11, 2012
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree
I would not be surprised IF...
IRS took a 'special' <wink> interest in Bain, Mitts missing returns, and his cohorts in the Boca video.
The GOP resorted to lies and personal attacks...
They lost considerably more than most of their supporters understand.
2014 could be the proverbial 'last nail'
As they should. Dictators or simply those who have ignored and will continue to ignore the constitution, usually go after those who oppose them.

Maybe Romney and all the rich contributors should not only be audited <wink> but be exiled. Or maybe, now hear me out because this would create a lot of jobs: resurrect those internment camps used to corral Japanese Americans during WWII. Like another Democrat in history, Obama could have millions of known traitors be sent to them for the next four years. Or to be more futuristic, we could establish districts like in the Hungar Games. Only Democrats get to live in the Capital District.
FORWARD to Obamageddon

Piscataway, NJ

#802144 Nov 11, 2012
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Because they’re in psychological denial, a masterpiece of banal self-delusion, completely untethered from reality.
It will come as little surprise to intellectually honest Americans who appreciate good journalism that a study published December 10th by the University of Maryland, found that people who turn to Fox News on a regular basis are the most ill-informed of all voters who read newspapers, news magazines or tune into radio-TV news outlets.
The study entitled, "Misinformation and the 2010 Election," found that the majority of American voters didn’t have their facts straight when it came to very topical events and issues.
Most voters did recognize that prior to the November elections, they were being bombarded with misinformation.
The challenge for most consumers then, was determining which news sources were the most trustworthy and reliable.
Regular viewers of Fox News may be among the most loyal, but the study showed that they are the most ill-informed.
The study surveyed 616 voters; the margin of error in the study’s conclusions is 3.9%. Participants were asked straightforward questions about the following topics:
The state of the economy
The unemployment rate
The healthcare reform act passed by Congress
The size of the budget deficit
The package of Congressional legislation designed to stimulate the economy, also known as the stimulus bill
The amount of federal income taxes you pay
The government bailout of banks and financial institutions, also known as TARP
The war in Afghanistan
The proposed cap and trade bill designed to address climate change
The bailout program for Chrysler and General Motors
The possibility that large amounts of foreign money were being used by the US Chamber of Commerce to influence the election
Fox viewers were the most likely participants in the survey to respond with inaccurate facts and misinformation, e.g.:
http://www.examiner.com/article/surprise-surp...
I totally agree. Fox (or Faux News) is still beating the drum about the Benghazi killings being mishandled by the Obama administration and the American people lied to by Obama. Give it up!

Honestly? If Nixon had been a Democrat and Fox News broke the Watergate story, Nixon would not have had to resign.
Homer

Effort, PA

#802145 Nov 11, 2012
Has Fox News declared Romney the winner yet?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802146 Nov 11, 2012
FORWARD to Obamageddon wrote:
<quoted text>As they should. Dictators or simply those who have ignored and will continue to ignore the constitution, usually go after those who oppose them.
Maybe Romney and all the rich contributors should not only be audited <wink> but be exiled. Or maybe, now hear me out because this would create a lot of jobs: resurrect those internment camps used to corral Japanese Americans during WWII. Like another Democrat in history, Obama could have millions of known traitors be sent to them for the next four years. Or to be more futuristic, we could establish districts like in the Hungar Games. Only Democrats get to live in the Capital District.
They could finally use that FEMA camp in North Korea/Wyoming!
Homer

Effort, PA

#802147 Nov 11, 2012
Logic wrote:
<quoted text>
They used bogus polls from Fox leading up to the election indicating Romney was going to win the election by a landslide.
It's amazing because Fox and their supporters claim they are so smart but end up looking like big dopes.
If you watch Fox News you hate Obama and were certain Romney was going to win big. I keep telling them to turn that garbage off.
Nightchalker

Lansing, MI

#802148 Nov 11, 2012
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Because they’re in psychological denial, a masterpiece of banal self-delusion, completely untethered from reality.
It will come as little surprise to intellectually honest Americans who appreciate good journalism that a study published December 10th by the University of Maryland, found that people who turn to Fox News on a regular basis are the most ill-informed of all voters who read newspapers, news magazines or tune into radio-TV news outlets.
The study entitled, "Misinformation and the 2010 Election," found that the majority of American voters didn’t have their facts straight when it came to very topical events and issues.
Most voters did recognize that prior to the November elections, they were being bombarded with misinformation.
The challenge for most consumers then, was determining which news sources were the most trustworthy and reliable.
Regular viewers of Fox News may be among the most loyal, but the study showed that they are the most ill-informed.
The study surveyed 616 voters; the margin of error in the study’s conclusions is 3.9%. Participants were asked straightforward questions about the following topics:
The state of the economy
The unemployment rate
The healthcare reform act passed by Congress
The size of the budget deficit
The package of Congressional legislation designed to stimulate the economy, also known as the stimulus bill
The amount of federal income taxes you pay
The government bailout of banks and financial institutions, also known as TARP
The war in Afghanistan
The proposed cap and trade bill designed to address climate change
The bailout program for Chrysler and General Motors
The possibility that large amounts of foreign money were being used by the US Chamber of Commerce to influence the election
Fox viewers were the most likely participants in the survey to respond with inaccurate facts and misinformation, e.g.:
http://www.examiner.com/article/surprise-surp...
I never watch T.V. at all, that's how I know you so full of it you float in fresh water.

Are you SURE that YOUR "sources" are telling you the truth?

I know from actual experience that unless you SEE a "news" story happen you will not get the true story.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802149 Nov 11, 2012
It makes sense that Mitt Romney and his advisers are still gobsmacked by the fact that they’re not commandeering the West Wing.

Team Romney has every reason to be shellshocked. Its candidate, after all, resoundingly won the election of the country he was wooing.

Mitt Romney is the president of white male America.

...

In its delusional death spiral, the white male patriarchy was so hard core, so redolent of country clubs and Cadillacs, it made little effort not to alienate women. The election had the largest gender gap in the history of the Gallup poll, with Obama winning the vote of single women by 36 percentage points.

As W.’s former aide Karen Hughes put it in Politico on Friday,“If another Republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific, violent crime, I want to personally cut out his tongue.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/opinion/sun...
WeThePeople

Somerset, KY

#802151 Nov 11, 2012
OBAMA TWO TERM PRESIDENT wrote:
<quoted text> you are free to leave the blue skies of florida for red neck territories, florida doesn't need your few pennies.
Well that's a good thing to knew...cause the oboticzombies gonna end up ever worse of when dem dar taxes goes UP, and aint no more to robbinghoodieTICwink -OUT of OTHER PEOLPLES working class pockets.

May you definetly reap the karma of what your own parasiTIC types have sown, AND feel--what the REST of us have been feeling for the past three years, times ten.

We'll be counting on THAT!!
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#802152 Nov 11, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>If you watch Fox News you hate Obama and were certain Romney was going to win big. I keep telling them to turn that garbage off.
Did you feel the earth move under YOUR feet yesterday Homer?

Thought sum us was gonna have ter call FEMER..find out who's still's were blowing up!!
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#802154 Nov 11, 2012
OBAMA TWO TERM PRESIDENT wrote:
<quoted text> keep smiling, president OBAMA gets a second term.
Four thousand, fifty FOUR days and counting.

Dem better gets busy and at least be trying to do something right FOR the REAL, loyal, true, decent, hardworking and ethical type Americans this time-NOT against it, rather all Wrong as the past four years have been, because duh stage of prance and dance for potus campaign is OVER --FOREVER.

The TEA PARTY!
H2S!
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#802155 Nov 11, 2012
edit
*one thousand, fifty four days and counting..
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#802156 Nov 11, 2012
krissy wrote:
There certainly are a lot of conversations about ass play on this thread lol.
It's the 12-15 year old MENTALity levels, and worm w/NO brains. Just overlook the zombies, or borrow Homers pencil to poke 'em the eyeball with.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#802157 Nov 11, 2012
.... the truth is, Romney was an unpalatable candidate. And shocking as it may seem, his strategists weren’t blowing smoke when they said they were going to win; they were just clueless.

Until now, Republicans and Fox News have excelled at conjuring alternate realities. But this time, they made the mistake of believing their fake world actually existed. As Fox’s Megyn Kelly said to Karl Rove on election night, when he argued against calling Ohio for Obama:“Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?”

Romney and Tea Party loonies dismissed half the country as chattel and moochers who did not belong in their “traditional” America. But the more they insulted the president with birther cracks, the more they tried to force chastity belts on women, and the more they made Hispanics, blacks and gays feel like the help, the more these groups burned to prove that, knitted together, they could give the dead-enders of white male domination the boot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/opinion/sun...

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