Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story

“The Intrepid”

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#798125 Nov 7, 2012
dem wrote:
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More lesbians but the hot porno kind
Liberal lizzies don't age well.

Ain't taht just too bad?


“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12


#798126 Nov 7, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Sink is finished with elected office__she would have made a terrific governor though but that was then.
Hah, yeah Buddy has a shifty side for sure and that's actually a plus for governing this effed up state. His strength is that he can get elected___no politician is perfect.
You make an excellent point. What other state elects a Governor on the platform of "I'm a business guy who didn't know my company committed the largest medicare fraud in history, but I wasn't indicted so I know what I'm doing"?

Chicago, IL

#798127 Nov 7, 2012
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All that needs raising is the national collective IQ. We just came THIS close to 8 more years of rule by hillbilly majority.
Well, not THAT close, but pretty damn close ...
You mean the IQ of our current president, who can't form a thought without a tele prompter?

Chicago, IL

#798130 Nov 7, 2012
Lily Boca Raton FL wrote:
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Maybe President Obama will give Mitt a job! He hired Hillary, so you never know!
he might give him a job because OBAMA is a good person. Mitt might be a tight wad backwards religious fanatic but the man knows how to make money maybe if MITT is actually a stand up guy he can help OBAMA get the economy together. I see MITT as a sore loser I highly doubt that will happen. Look at the sore losers his supporters turned out to be they actually are predicting the future and want to see him and this country fail

Indianapolis, IN

#798131 Nov 7, 2012
How Conservative Media Lost to the MSM and Failed the Rank and File

Nate Silver was right. His ideological antagonists were wrong. And that's just the beginning of the right's self-created information disadvantage.

Before rank-and-file conservatives ask, "What went wrong?", they should ask themselves a question every bit as important: "Why were we the last to realize that things were going wrong for us?"

Barack Obama just trounced a Republican opponent for the second time. But unlike four years ago, when most conservatives saw it coming, Tuesday's result was, for them, an unpleasant surprise. So many on the right had predicted a Mitt Romney victory, or even a blowout -- Dick Morris, George Will, and Michael Barone all predicted the GOP would break 300 electoral votes. Joe Scarborough scoffed at the notion that the election was anything other than a toss-up. Peggy Noonan insisted that those predicting an Obama victory were ignoring the world around them. Even Karl Rove, supposed political genius, missed the bulls-eye. These voices drove the coverage on Fox News, talk radio, the Drudge Report, and conservative blogs.

Those audiences were misinformed.

Outside the conservative media, the narrative was completely different. Its driving force was Nate Silver, whose performance forecasting Election '08 gave him credibility as he daily explained why his model showed that President Obama enjoyed a very good chance of being reelected. Other experts echoed his findings. Readers of The New York Times, The Atlantic, and other "mainstream media" sites besides knew the expert predictions, which have been largely born out. The conclusions of experts are not sacrosanct. But Silver's expertise was always a better bet than relying on ideological hacks like Morris or the anecdotal impressions of Noonan.

Sure, Silver could've wound up wrong. But people who rejected the possibility of his being right? They were operating at a self-imposed information disadvantage.

Conservatives should be familiar with its contours. For years, they've been arguing that liberal control of media and academia confers one advantage: Folks on the right can't help but be familiar with the thinking of liberals, whereas leftists can operate entirely within a liberal cocoon. This analysis was offered to explain why liberal ideas were growing weaker and would be defeated.


It is easy to close oneself off inside a conservative echo chamber. And right-leaning outlets like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's show are far more intellectually closed than CNN or public radio. If you're a rank-and-file conservative, you're probably ready to acknowledge that ideologically friendly media didn't accurately inform you about Election 2012. Some pundits engaged in wishful thing; others feigned confidence in hopes that it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy; still others decided it was smart to keep telling right-leaning audiences what they wanted to hear.

But guess what?

You haven't just been misinformed about the horse race. Since the very beginning of the election cycle, conservative media has been failing you. With a few exceptions, they haven't tried to rigorously tell you the truth, or even to bring you intellectually honest opinion. What they've done instead helps to explain why the right failed to triumph in a very winnable election.

Why do you keep putting up with it?
Get a Clue

Chicago, IL

#798132 Nov 7, 2012
Biden wrote:
<quoted text> he should he's a millionaire with plenty to spare. Obama was the average American from humble beginnings that worked his way thru college he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Why should Harry reed apologize?? How many times have people disrespected or lied on our president ??
How many times has he disrespected and lied to the American people?

Woodbridge, VA

#798133 Nov 7, 2012
Just for drinking!
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I hope at the end of his 4 years, you are as slap happy as you are nowl. You might be the one that needs that drink, buddy! LOL

Edmonton, Canada

#798134 Nov 7, 2012
Lily Boca Raton FL wrote:
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I wish the networks would stop giving that blowhard attention and airtime.
I second that motion!
Get a Clue

Chicago, IL

#798135 Nov 7, 2012
Lily Boca Raton FL wrote:
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I wish the networks would stop giving that blowhard attention and airtime.
They give it to Biden, so fair is fair.

Indianapolis, IN

#798136 Nov 7, 2012
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because Romney supporters like Jennifer Rubin and Hugh Hewitt saw it as their duty to spin constantly for their favored candidate rather than being frank about his strengths and weaknesses. What conservative Washington Post readers got, when they traded in Dave Weigel for Rubin, was a lot more hackery and a lot less informed about the presidential election.

Conservatives were at an information disadvantage because so many right-leaning outlets wasted time on stories the rest of America dismissed as nonsense. WorldNetDaily brought you birtherism. Forbes brought you Kenyan anti-colonialism. National Review obsessed about an imaginary rejection of American exceptionalism, misrepresenting an Obama quote in the process, and Andy McCarthy was interviewed widely about his theory that Obama, aka the Drone Warrior in Chief, allied himself with our Islamist enemies in a "Grand Jihad" against America. Seriously?

Conservatives were at a disadvantage because their information elites pandered in the most cynical, self-defeating ways, treating would-be candidates like Sarah Palin and Herman Cain as if they were plausible presidents rather than national jokes who'd lose worse than George McGovern.

How many months were wasted on them?

How many hours of Glenn Beck conspiracy theories did Fox News broadcast to its viewers? How many hours of transparently mindless Sean Hannity content is still broadcast daily? Why don't Americans trust Republicans on foreign policy as they once did? In part because conservatism hasn't grappled with the foreign-policy failures of George W. Bush. A conspiracy of silence surrounds the subject. Romney could neither run on the man's record nor repudiate it. The most damaging Romney gaffe of the campaign, where he talked about how the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income taxes are a lost cause for Republicans? Either he was unaware that many of those people are Republican voters, or was pandering to GOP donors who are misinformed. Either way, bad information within the conservative movement was to blame.

Indianapolis, IN

#798137 Nov 7, 2012
In conservative fantasy-land, Richard Nixon was a champion of ideological conservatism, tax cuts are the only way to raise revenue, adding neoconservatives to a foreign-policy team reassures American voters, Benghazi was a winning campaign issue, Clint Eastwood's convention speech was a brilliant triumph, and Obama's America is a place where black kids can beat up white kids with impunity. Most conservative pundits know better than this nonsense -- not that they speak up against it. They see criticizing their own side as a sign of disloyalty. I see a coalition that has lost all perspective, partly because there's no cost to broadcasting or publishing inane bullshit. In fact, it's often very profitable. A lot of cynical people have gotten rich broadcasting and publishing red meat for movement conservative consumption.

On the biggest political story of the year, the conservative media just got its ass handed to it by the mainstream media. And movement conservatives, who believe the MSM is more biased and less rigorous than their alternatives, have no way to explain how their trusted outlets got it wrong, while the New York Times got it right. Hint: The Times hired the most rigorous forecaster it could find.

It ought to be an eye-opening moment.

But I expect that it'll be quickly forgotten, that none of the conservatives who touted a polling conspiracy will be discredited, and that the right will continue to operate at an information disadvantage. After all, it's not like they'll trust the analysis of a non-conservative like me more than the numerous fellow conservatives who constantly tell them things that turn out not to be true.

Chicago, IL

#798138 Nov 7, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
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The only one that Obama care about is Obama.
total BS if that was the case he would not be president again! That's actually a true statement about MITT he only cares about rich people and that's why he lost. He's old fashion living with 1950 ideologies concerning women, gays,immigrants, minorities its 2012 not 1950

Indianapolis, IN

#798140 Nov 7, 2012
Republicans Failed to Understand Their Opponent

Romney spent years running against a fantasy record and campaigning on a series of gross distortions and falsehoods, and so it shouldn’t be too surprising that his campaign and his conservative media boosters didn’t have the firmest grip on political reality.

Chicago, IL

#798142 Nov 7, 2012
Get a Clue wrote:
<quoted text>How many times has he disrespected and lied to the American people?
if congress is ran by republicans how could he pass anything?? So something's would seem like lies because he couldn't carry them out! How many times did MItt flip flop on his positions??? People saw right thru him. How do you expect to fix everything wrong in this country in 4 years?? Bush screwed up this country don't forget he was the worst president in all history! This election was really about race lets be honest
Obama is a joke

Emmaus, PA

#798143 Nov 7, 2012
Biden wrote:
<quoted text> total BS if that was the case he would not be president again! That's actually a true statement about MITT he only cares about rich people and that's why he lost. He's old fashion living with 1950 ideologies concerning women, gays,immigrants, minorities its 2012 not 1950
So tell me, what has Obama done for the people in NY?

Deltona, FL

#798144 Nov 7, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You make an excellent point. What other state elects a Governor on the platform of "I'm a business guy who didn't know my company committed the largest medicare fraud in history, but I wasn't indicted so I know what I'm doing"?
Scott needs to go, he's not good at government stuff that's for sure__very few businessmen are.

Woodbridge, VA

#798145 Nov 7, 2012
Romney Is A Loser wrote:
Romney's lying azz loss. Racist whites are mad. LOL
I am not a Racist, and I am not mad. Sad that Romney didn't when maybe, but as long as I have God in my life, it doesn't matter who is President really, because either way, I'll be ok.

I know I didn;t vote for Obama based on 3 things. 1.To get a black as President..who cares if he does a good job or not. 2. Obama is for abortions, and 3.. Obama is for gay marriage.

I thought when you vote for a President it should be based on what the person can do for this country, and has know how to run a country the right way. Not based on skin color, killling a baby, or fcking and marrying the same sex.
Gluteus Maximus

Bethpage, NY

#798146 Nov 7, 2012
Yeah sure. Let's celebrate this:

Stocks remained deeply in the red in a post-election selloff Wednesday, triggered by worries over the looming "fiscal cliff" and as fears over Europe's economy reemerged. The Dow broke below 13,000, while the S&P 500 traded under 1,400 for the first time since early September.“It’s now how quickly we can focus on the ‘fiscal cliff’ and coming up with a resolution—that's certainly the next item on the agenda for the market,” said Art Hogan, managing director of Lazard Capital Markets. "And you still have Europe." The Dow Jones Industrial Average was down nearly 300 points.

Montverde, FL

#798147 Nov 7, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
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Romney asked people to donate supplies and money at his rallies, what did Obama do?
Why didn't Romney open up those Mormon warehouse's and send the supplies? Guess ya gotta be a Mormon for some of that stuff.

Indianapolis, IN

#798148 Nov 7, 2012
Election aftermath: GOP soul-searching:'Too old, too white, too male'?

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