Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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<quoted text>It will take Romney to get aid to the storm area. bommie was there he will be spending the tax payers money, Romney will be spending his own money. Dosen't that make you jealious?
Romney did not spend his own money. His campaign staff spent $5000 in campaign contributions at Walmart.

“I'm here with bells on.”

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Hold the Koran in one hand, and the New Testament in the other hand.
How about you hand the book that teaches tolerance, love, peace, humility, equality, forgiveness, and everything else that makes life better, to a stranger,... and burn the one that teaches intolerance, women in sexual slavery, and killing anyone and everyone who has a different belief.
Which one do you burn?
The New Testament or the Koran?
Neither. I don't burn books.

But then again, I don't need any book of ancient fairy tales, to convince me of the existence or the nature of the Divine.

The Divine is made manifest in every particle of the universe - why would it need a book to make itself understood? Only men who don't listen have that problem. Free will and all like that...

As for the separation of Church and State, I'm all for it. Big fan. One's religion and one's service to one's country should function independently, as one has nothing to do with the other. Religion is personal, and public service is, well, public.
Since we don't all 'worship' the Divine in the same way,(and some of us don't worship at all) it is against the Constitution to legislate the tenets of one religion over another, and passing any religious test for eligibility to public office is EXPLICITLY forbidden.

"Religion as Government" is in the Koran, I think....and there was that quote about 'rendering unto Caesar...' now who said that again?

It never ceases to amaze me how often Christians tout the Bible, but refuse to heed it. You folks need a new shtick.

JMO.
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About 3300 more people have committed suicide each year during Obama's presidency so those body bags are already spoken for.
You can't be serious.
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CIA and Associated Press, no less. Golly, Faux News was wrong....again? Spin your way out of this one, Republican supporters.
Classified August Cable Signed By Ambassador Stevens Warned Benghazi Consulate Couldn’t Withstand ‘Coordinated Attack’

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/class...

US Relied on Muslim Brotherhood for Benghazi Consulate Security

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/us-r...

Libyans: Al-Qaida handled 'security' at Tripoli embassy

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/libyans-al-qaida-h...

Spin your way out of those.
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"Dr. ZOMBIE"... better question, where is your president today? Air force 1, from city to city working on his reelection...?????
Well, for one, FEMA is on the job.

Unlike New Orleans in 2005.

And second, Obama spent time with Governor Christie reviewing the damage to NJ.

“I'm here with bells on.”

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assume you're talking about Joisey, a third-world country....
don't worry, Obama and FEMA are in control.....
by the way, nobody will steal a generator from your neighbor with the guns...
You sir, epitomize the hypocrisy of a so-called 'pro-life' stance. You're only pro-life when it suits you - or supports your lifestyle.

'Save that fetus!' becomes 'Shoot that bread thief!'

Oh wait, I forgot - you're the one who supports abortion for a certain demographic, and is against it for everyone else.

You people make me physically ill.
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You can't be serious.
The suicide rate under George Bush was 11.1 per 100,000 and 12.2 under Obama.The CDC says suicides increase during poor economic times.
A 1.1% increase for 300 million people is 3300 more suicides yearly..
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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Neither. I don't burn books.
But then again, I don't need any book of ancient fairy tales, to convince me of the existence or the nature of the Divine.
The Divine is made manifest in every particle of the universe - why would it need a book to make itself understood? Only men who don't listen have that problem. Free will and all like that...
As for the separation of Church and State, I'm all for it. Big fan. One's religion and one's service to one's country should function independently, as one has nothing to do with the other. Religion is personal, and public service is, well, public.
Since we don't all 'worship' the Divine in the same way,(and some of us don't worship at all) it is against the Constitution to legislate the tenets of one religion over another, and passing any religious test for eligibility to public office is EXPLICITLY forbidden.
"Religion as Government" is in the Koran, I think....and there was that quote about 'rendering unto Caesar...' now who said that again?
It never ceases to amaze me how often Christians tout the Bible, but refuse to heed it. You folks need a new shtick.
JMO.
Ah yes,separation of church and state, Founding Father style.

It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary...... Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.
Jefferson's actions may seem surprising because his attitude toward the relation between religion and government is usually thought to have been embodied in his recommendation that there exist "a wall of separation between church and state." In that statement, Jefferson was apparently declaring his opposition, as Madison had done in introducing the Bill of Rights, to a "national" religion. In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government."

Religion and The Founding of the American Republic

James H. Hutson

Chief Historian
Manuscript Division
Library of Congress

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2....
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granola bars beat dumpster diving any day.....
You should know.

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thats him!!!!!
hes still alive?
wow!
i swear i thought he was nuts and i was ten.
Yes, apparently he’s still alive, but his photo hasn’t aged since you were ten when you accurately assessed his mentality.
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Romney did not spend his own money. His campaign staff spent $5000 in campaign contributions at Walmart.
Obama spent 500 million at Solyndra Solar, ended up int he dark,and still had to go to Walmart to buy a flashlight.
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<quoted text>You sir, epitomize the hypocrisy of a so-called 'pro-life' stance. You're only pro-life when it suits you - or supports your lifestyle.
'Save that fetus!' becomes 'Shoot that bread thief!'
Oh wait, I forgot - you're the one who supports abortion for a certain demographic, and is against it for everyone else.
You people make me physically ill.
Yeah, don't you love the ever-hypocritcal pro-lifers.

They come charging in to save a fetus.

But once it's born and the parents need welfare, government-assisted medical care, nutrition programs, etc. the reaction of the right is:

"Nooooo... not out of my walllet! Let it die."

“I'm here with bells on.”

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Ah yes,separation of church and state, Founding Father style.
It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary...... Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.
Jefferson's actions may seem surprising because his attitude toward the relation between religion and government is usually thought to have been embodied in his recommendation that there exist "a wall of separation between church and state." In that statement, Jefferson was apparently declaring his opposition, as Madison had done in introducing the Bill of Rights, to a "national" religion. In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government."
Religion and The Founding of the American Republic
James H. Hutson
Chief Historian
Manuscript Division
Library of Congress
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2....
Lovely - off the cuff history lessons are my favorite.

Don't forget to tip your corner historian, folks.

Here's a tip from me: Don't try to teach your gramma how to suck, well, ANYTHING.

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The suicide rate under George Bush was 11.1 per 100,000 and 12.2 under Obama.The CDC says suicides increase during poor economic times.
A 1.1% increase for 300 million people is 3300 more suicides yearly..
What economic collapse of 08? What 726,000 per month job lost? What Depression second only to 1929. You Repubs are so hypocrite.
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The suicide rate under George Bush was 11.1 per 100,000 and 12.2 under Obama.The CDC says suicides increase during poor economic times.
A 1.1% increase for 300 million people is 3300 more suicides yearly..
You can't be serious with this crapola. Try something new.
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Well, for one, FEMA is on the job.
Unlike New Orleans in 2005.
And second, Obama spent time with Governor Christie reviewing the damage to NJ.
"reviewing the damage" does not put gas in the tank or food on the table....

and WTF is FEMA actually accomplishing......
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<quoted text>You sir, epitomize the hypocrisy of a so-called 'pro-life' stance. You're only pro-life when it suits you - or supports your lifestyle.
'Save that fetus!' becomes 'Shoot that bread thief!'
Oh wait, I forgot - you're the one who supports abortion for a certain demographic, and is against it for everyone else.
You people make me physically ill.
the mission of Planned Parenthood, as set forth by founder Margaret Sanger, is essential to the survival of America.....

aside from that, one can be "pro-choice", but still believe that abortion, even though legal, is completely immoral and should be reserved for the most extreme situations.....not just for personal convenience....

guess you can't see that.....
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Ah yes,separation of church and state, Founding Father style.
It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary...... Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.
Jefferson's actions may seem surprising because his attitude toward the relation between religion and government is usually thought to have been embodied in his recommendation that there exist "a wall of separation between church and state." In that statement, Jefferson was apparently declaring his opposition, as Madison had done in introducing the Bill of Rights, to a "national" religion. In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government."
Religion and The Founding of the American Republic
James H. Hutson
Chief Historian
Manuscript Division
Library of Congress
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2....
All this proves is that religious services were held on federal grounds.

In no way does it imply that men like Jefferson and Madison were in favor of favor of using the power of government to give Christianity preferential treatment.

And that is what the separation clause is all about.
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“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, here are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.”
“And they will vote for this president no matter what.... These are people who pay no income tax,”
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To all those on Social Security and Troops deployed that pay NO FEDERAL income tax. Mitt does not need your vote nor does he care about you.
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This message was brought to you by Mitt Romney's own words.
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Nobama wrote:
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the mission of Planned Parenthood, as set forth by founder Margaret Sanger, is essential to the survival of America.....
aside from that, one can be "pro-choice", but still believe that abortion, even though legal, is completely immoral and should be reserved for the most extreme situations.....not just for personal convenience....
guess you can't see that.....
Once the unborn are born, the right abandons them.

That is the indisputable truth.

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