Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Nobama

Allentown, PA

#773149 Oct 16, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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This is because you are stupid.
The Nafta Treaty was signed by Bush.
The Nafta legislation was signed by Clinton.
If you weren't such a moron, you would know the difference.
GFY
free trade is essential in the modern world.....NAFTA is not the problem....

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#773151 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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yawn
You ran away from this, too, after you got your ignorant ass kicked all over this board.
... yawn.
Nobama

Allentown, PA

#773152 Oct 16, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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How does a pipeline to import Canadian oil help with energy independence?
You do know that Canada is not part of this country, right?
North American energy independence eliminates reliance on Middle East sources.....
Nobama

Allentown, PA

#773154 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
No one disagrees that cutting taxes will stimulate the economy, just as no one contests that throwing gasoline on a campfire will cause it to temporarily burn hotter. The more important question is whether such stimuli are sustainable - whether putting more wood on a fire or blowing on its embers might be a better way to keep it going than fueling it with "liquidity"
sounds like the Obama/Bernanke policy of QE3......and Porkulus....
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#773155 Oct 16, 2012
Blaming Obama for George W. Bush’s Policies

Bruce Bartlett

Just to be clear, the National Bureau of Economic Research, the private research group that determines the starting and ending points of recessions, says the latest economic downturn began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009.

The report points to various causes of the recession as if they all just happened without the responsibility of one party or administration. As the report says,“No single party or administration is responsible for structural headwinds to growth.”

That is probably true. But what about cyclical changes in growth and unemployment? These are the ups and downs in the economy that occur around the trend rate of growth, which is determined by structural factors, as the report correctly asserts.

Factors affecting the business cycle are necessarily short-term in nature. They include Federal Reserve policy; international capital flows; industry-specific policies such as those affecting housing; fiscal policy and many others.

Such factors must necessarily have occurred after the previous recession, which ended in November 2001, according to the N.B.E.R. That’s the nature of business-cycle analysis; once a previous recession ends, the cyclical factors that gave rise to it are assumed to have been purged. The next recession will necessarily result from those factors that postdate the previous recession.

So whatever caused the 2007-9 recession had to have resulted from policies that the Bush administration was responsible for – either by initiating them or failing to act against them.

Space prohibits a full discussion of these issues, but certainly one factor had to be the squandering of budget surpluses that resulted from the policies of the Bill Clinton administration and their replacement by huge deficits under President Bush.

Mr. Bush inherited a budget surplus of $236 billion from Mr. Clinton in 2000, which fell to $128 billion in 2001. By 2002, the federal government ran a budget deficit of $158 billion, which rose to $377 billion in 2003, and $413 billion in 2004. The deficit fell to $318 billion in 2005,$248 billion in 2006, and $161 billion in 2007, then shot up to $459 billion in 2008.

It should be noted as well that the fiscal 2009 budget was submitted to Congress by Mr. Bush in January 2008 and took effect on Oct. 1 of that year – almost four months before President Obama took office.

Thus the government was running historically large budget deficits long after the end of the 2001 recession. As I have previously documented, these deficits resulted to a large extent from legislated tax cuts during the Bush years.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/...

So how much revisionism will we have to suffer through in response to that? Some more right wing chain emails from 4 years ago?
Nobama

Allentown, PA

#773156 Oct 16, 2012
Jesus H Flynt Esquire wrote:
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We get nice contaminated land in return.
just one solar power project will "contaminate" more land than the entire Keystone pipeline.......
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#773157 Oct 16, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
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You ran away from this, too, after you got your ignorant ass kicked all over this board.
... yawn.
You've forgotten "keel hauled" in a very big hurry.

Though I must say you always have the best wingnut posts of any of the wingnuts. At least every time some other wingnut sends you an email.
fred

Milford, CT

#773158 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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You've forgotten "keel hauled" in a very big hurry.
Though I must say you always have the best wingnut posts of any of the wingnuts. At least every time some other wingnut sends you an email.
The Kenyan communist campaign is a pack of lies.

OOPS: Obama:‘We Got Back Every Dime’ of Bailout; CBO: Bailout Will Lose $24 Billion.“In fact, CBO reported that as of now $65 billion in TARP funds remain outstanding.”
fred

Milford, CT

#773159 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
To the annoyance of the Romney campaign, members of Washington’s reality-based community have a habit of popping up to point out the many deceptions in the campaign’s blue-sky promises of low taxes and instant growth.[...]
Even Fox News isn’t buying it. Ed Gillespie, a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, said on Fox News Sunday that Mr. Romney would work out those details later with Congress. As the program’s moderator, Chris Wallace, pointed out, that’s like offering voters the candy of a 20 percent tax cut without mentioning the spinach they will have to eat.[...]
It is increasingly clear that the Romney tax “plan” is not really a plan at all but is instead simply a rhapsody based on old Republican themes that something can be had for nothing. For middle-class taxpayers without the benefit of expensive accountants, the bill always comes due a few years later.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/opinion/mit...
65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama - YouTube http://ow.ly/evM5G
rogerThat

AOL

#773160 Oct 16, 2012
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“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#773161 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Blaming Obama for George W. Bush’s ... blah... blah... blah...
So whatever caused the 2007-9 recession had to have resulted from policies that the Bush administration was responsible for – either by initiating them or failing to act against them.
Space prohibits a full discussion of these issues, but certainly one factor had to be the squandering of budget surpluses that resulted from the policies of the Bill Clinton administration and their replacement by huge deficits under President Bush.
... blah... blah... blah...
Let's take off the horse blinders the Democrats like to put on the American population and look at the real world situation.

"So whatever caused the 2007-9 recession...."
Answer: the Democrats' lunatic subprime housing mortgage underwriting program that collapsed our economy.

"...had to have resulted from policies that the Bush administration was responsible for...."
Bipartisan effort to include the Democrats' demand for no effective oversight of their ludicrous subprime housing mortgate underwriting program that collapsed our economy, combined with Democrat oversight of the very financial institutions that caused the economic collapse for two years immediately before the collapse.

"...either by initiating them or failing to act against them."
Here is a link to inform you of the Democrats' negotiating position when they were negotiating with the Republicans:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1222905743912...

Barney Frank - " I worry, frankly, that there's a tension here. The more people, in my judgment, exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness, the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury, which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially and withstand some of the disaster scenarios."

... and "I do think I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness that we have in OCC [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] and OTS [Office of Thrift Supervision]. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing."

OFHEO Director Armando Falcon Jr - "OFHEO [Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight] did not improperly apply accounting rules; Freddie Mac did. OFHEO did not try to manage earnings improperly; Freddie Mac did. So this isn't about the agency's engagement in improper conduct, it is about Freddie Mac. Let me just correct the record on that. I have been asking for these additional authorities for four years now. I have been asking for additional resources, the independent appropriations assessment powers."

Rep. Gregory Meeks (D., N.Y.)- " I am just pissed off at OFHEO because if it wasn't for you I don't think that we would be here in the first place."

So, here you have the potential disaster to our economy identified as early as 2003, and the Democrats pushing harder for this obviously dangerous program to be expanded.

Now, let's compare the timelines of the Republicans giving to the Democrats their wish for no effective oversight of their insane subprime loan program that ultimately collapsed our economy after 2 years of oversight by Democrats to the timeline of the Democrats being for the Iraq operation before they were against it.

.... damn. Looks like the Democrats traded their (temporary) support for the war effort for no effective oversight of their subprime program that collapsed our economy after 2 years of oversight by the Democrats.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#773162 Oct 16, 2012
fred wrote:
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65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama - YouTube http://ow.ly/evM5G
Give it up fred.

ALL politicians lie.

http://www.politifact.com/

Just look down the list. Obama, Ryan, Romney, Biden, with nary a true statement to be found.

So wadda ya gonna do now? Say Politifact is biased? I'd sure like to see that dance.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#773163 Oct 16, 2012
Countdown to the debate...
Today’s the day!

Town hall time with undecideds and Candy. Oh yeah!

- Will Romney alienate the audience?

- Will Obama not let Romney get away with his lie-and-deny strategy?
fred

Milford, CT

#773165 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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Give it up fred.
ALL politicians lie.
http://www.politifact.com/
Just look down the list. Obama, Ryan, Romney, Biden, with nary a true statement to be found.
So wadda ya gonna do now? Say Politifact is biased? I'd sure like to see that dance.
Nonsense. Only the Kenyan mau mau and his stooge Crazy Joe have lied nonstop during the campaign. Virtually every word out of their mouth is a lie.

Polifact is a Soros paid commie propaganda mill that verifies the Kenyan's lies. duh

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#773166 Oct 16, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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You've forgotten "keel hauled" in a very big hurry.
Though I must say you always have the best wingnut posts of any of the wingnuts. At least every time some other wingnut sends you an email.
You forgot to put content into your post. I'll help you. Here's the post again.
There are a lot of statements in the post. Pick any out and argue your case.
You got your ass kicked from here to Baku the last time you tried to promote the lies the Democrats invented.

Ho Chi Minh didn't become a concern until he asked the Soviet Union to help him in the war he started against the French after he went to Paris and asked them to come back to Veitnam. The Soviet Union used this as an opportunity to expand their influence during the Cold War. He didn't become significant until the Soviet Union was supporting his invasions of South Vietnam. If he never invaded South Vietnam, he'd be about as significant as some other small-pond bullshit dictator with too big of an ego in the world.
Listen carefully to this. This is the key ingredient to understanding the US involvement in Vietnam:
As the Soviet Union increased its involvement in the invasions of South Vietnam, the US increased its involvement in the defense of South Vietnam.
That means the US involvement didn't become significant until after Ho Chi Minh asked the Soviet Union to petition the UN to divide the country.
Let's say that again:
Ho Chi Minh asked the Soviet Union to petition the UN to divide the country.
Immediately after the UN authorized the creation of North Vietnam and South Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh began invading South Vietnam.
This is exactly like how the proxy war in Korea started.
Now, idiot, here's the key:
As the Soviet involvement in the communist invasions of South Vietnam increased, the US involvement in the defense of South Vietnam increased.
US involvement didn't become direct until AFTER the UN divided the country.
The Soviet Union involvement was already at a significant level prior to this. In fact, as I told your ignorant ass previously, the communist used Soviet weapons at the battle of Dien Bien Phu, which was before the Soviet Union petitioned the UN to divide Vietnam into two separate countries.
The Cold War is a global war.
The Soviet Union is engaged in Vietnam.
The communists divide Vietnam into two countries.
The communists begin invading free South Vietnam.
The US assists South Vietnam.
The strategy of the United States during the Cold War was not to abandon our allies and run away.
You seem to be ignorant of all of this.
As for Nixon winning the war, the war was all but over in 1970 when the NVA ran away to avoid destruction when the US forces entered the Parrot's Beak in 1970. They waited until US ground forces left Vietnam in 1971 to launch the largest communist invasion of the war. They were defeated by the South Vietnamese WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM US GROUND COMBAT UNITS.
Now, I want you to begin your next post with one of the lies in the system of lies the Democrats invented about Vietnam:
"The South Vietnamese wouldn't fight for themselves."
Then tell us about how the communists defeated the South Vietnamese in 1972 when they mounted the single largest invasion of the war, the Easter Offensive of 1972.
... got a problem, don't you....
It seems the single largest invasion of the war wasn't successful, and there is no history of any US ground combat units fighting against the communists.
Was it aliens from space that beat the communists?
Or, was it the South Vietnamese?
Now, tell us how the Democrat-controlled congress of 1973 helped the ally of the United States after they defeated a massive communist invasion during the Cold War.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#773167 Oct 16, 2012
Nobama wrote:
Queen Moosebutt Claims Two More Victims.....
DELAWARE, Ohio - Two law enforcement officials were injured in a crash while part of a motorcade escort for First Lady Michelle Obama on Monday.
According to the Delaware County Sheriff's Office, the motorcycles crashed at about 4:15 p.m. along U.S. Route 36/ state Route 37 and South Old State Road.
It was unknown if the motorcyclists collided or were struck by another vehicle.
One Genoa Township police officer and one Ohio State Highway Patrol trooper were transported to Grant Medical Center in Columbus with unknown injuries.
Michelle Obama spoke at about 2:45 p.m. at Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware.
U.S. 36/S.R. 37 was backed up because of the crash.
Obama was not injured in the crash, and her motorcade continued on after the crash.
On the NSA--
"Mr. Obama gave him grief for never taking time off and browbeat him into losing 50 pounds."

WTF?

REALLY? Nothing more on the plate of being CIC of this flippin' nation--than peabrain browbeating on that kinda chit?

WTH we doing in Libya? Strategically planning yoga campaigns?

Foreign Policy FAILURE.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#773168 Oct 16, 2012
Mali: Ruling Islamists Publicly Lash Teen Girl 60 Times For Speaking To Men In Timbuktu

Let's talk about real women's rights. Not killing babies.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#773169 Oct 16, 2012
kuda wrote:
Countdown to the debate...
Today’s the day!
Town hall time with undecideds and Candy. Oh yeah!
- Will Romney alienate the audience?
- Will Obama not let Romney get away with his lie-and-deny strategy?
You might want to out on your grown up tin foil hat for 90 minutes- listen with NON partisan (rather than party bootlicking tainted) ears, and realize ONE of them actually implemented AFFORDABLE healthcare for those who had NONE--(as in not just more bs rhetoric) of just trying to implement more robbinghoodietic TAX and FINE the already (often UNinsured) working class poor!!

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!
fred

Milford, CT

#773170 Oct 16, 2012
kuda wrote:
Countdown to the debate...
Today’s the day!
Town hall time with undecideds and Candy. Oh yeah!
- Will Romney alienate the audience?
- Will Obama not let Romney get away with his lie-and-deny strategy?
ROSS PEROT REAPPEARS: We Can’t Afford Obama.“The fact is the United States is on an unsustainable course. At stake is nothing less than our position in the world, our standard of living at home and our constitutional freedoms. That is why I am endorsing Mitt Romney for president. We can’t afford four more years in which debt mushrooms out of control, our government grows and our military is weakened.”
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#773171 Oct 16, 2012
Jesus H Flynt Esquire wrote:
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Why the hell did we invade Iraq?
Not one hi-jacker was from Iraq and there never was no concrete proof of WMD,'s.
Time for you to return to your nice little rubber cell of cluelessness and life in DUH igno-bubble, where the real world can continue-to ELUDE you.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!

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