Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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"Democracy works admirably in societies where it is allowed to develop organically. But when other governments try to accelerate its growth artificially or hasten its triumph from outside, especially when they resort to military force to do so, the result is almost always a fierce reaction against the forces of democracy. This reaction often generates extreme fascist, repressive, and intolerant forces. And these forces usually win and take power. Then they impose themselves on the societies in question, delaying any real democratic development for decades or generations.
The efforts of the French Revolutionaries and Napoleon to export liberty, equality, and brotherhood across Europe by fire and sword instead ensured the survival of the old traditional empires for another 120 years. The efforts of Lenin and Trotsky to export socialism and communism by similar means were even more catastrophic. The backlash against them in Germany propelled Adolf Hitler to power.
It is not in America’s interests to follow in those footsteps—to put it mildly."
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Hell--obviously we (as a nation) can't even keep up with what's going on in with our folks sent to Libya--let alone get involved in another mess like Syria.
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Al-Qaeda said the deadly attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya was in revenge for the killing of the network’s number two Sheikh Abu Yahya al-Libi, SITE Intelligence Group reported Saturday.

“The killing of Sheikh Abu Yahya only increased the enthusiasm and determination of the sons of (Libyan independence hero) Omar al-Mokhtar to take revenge upon those who attack our Prophet,” Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula said in a statement, quoted by the US-based monitoring group.

Al-Qaeda’s Yemen-based offshoot did not claim direct responsibility for Tuesday’s attack on the US consulate in Benghazi that killed the US ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and three other Americans.

But it stressed that “the uprising of our people in Libya, Egypt and Yemen against America and its embassies is a sign to notify the United States that its war is not directed against groups and organisations … but against the Islamic nation that has rebelled against injustice.”

The statement comes four days after Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri issued a video eulogising Libi, his late deputy and propaganda chief who was killed in a drone strike in June.

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WTH we doing in Libya (aside from aiding and abetting failed statehood, ripening condition for increased extremist terrorist acitvities) but hey--no extra support needed.

FAILED Foreign Policy.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!
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Charles Krauthammer is still clinging to a weird revisionist story of what Romney did in response to the embassy and consulate attacks:

He issued a two-sentence critique of the initial statement issued by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on the day the mob attacked. The critique was not only correct but vindicated when the State Department disavowed the embassy statement. However, because the critique was not framed within a larger argument about the misdirection of U.S. Middle East policy, it could be — and was — characterized as a partisan attack on the nation’s leader at a moment of national crisis.

There’s something impressive about the willful refusal to acknowledge what Romney did two weeks ago. The Obama administration is now coming under appropriate scrutiny for its handling of the attack on the Benghazi consulate, but it is telling that this is exactly the sort of scrutiny Romney could not provide then or now. Romney’s first impulse wasn’t to raise legitimate questions about security or post-war instability in Libya. It was to recycle his big lie about the “apology tour” and to tell a new lie that the administration sympathized with the people attacking our diplomatic missions. Even before he knew everything that had happened, Romney’s instinct was to seek political advantage and to spread falsehoods. Romney’s failure wasn’t that he didn’t frame his ill-advised, dishonest attack correctly, and it’s difficult to imagine how he could have framed it in a way that didn’t rely on his earlier nonsense arguments. It would have been useful to have a credible challenger capable of making sound criticisms of administration actions, but that is exactly the candidate we don’t have.

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Since the party leaders and Romney had been entirely in favor of the Libyan intervention, and chastised Obama for being too slow to start an unnecessary war, they were in no position to draw attention to the war’s destructive consequences, and they were not inclined to do so. Romney is incapable of “going for the larger argument,” as Krauthammer urges, because there is no larger argument that he or his hawkish allies can make. Where Obama has bungled things, he has usually bungled them by being too hawkish. His failures are their failures.

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Obama is a joke wrote:
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Sept. 25:
ABC airs the television show The View, in which Obama is asked about Clinton's statement. "We don't have all of the information yet so we are still gathering," he says. He says there is "no doubt" that "it wasn't just a mob action."
"What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests," he says.
In a speech to the United Nations, Obama condemns the attacks and the American filmmaker, saying, "A crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world."
Clinton issues a statement acknowledging that an al-Qaeda affiliate in Libya and other Islamist terror groups "are seeking to extend their reach and their networks in multiple directions."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012... #
Libya: An opportunity for al Qaeda?
LIBYANS
February 25, 2011|By Paul Cruickshank, CNN Terrorism Analyst

A border guard in an empty customs hall on the Libya-Egyptian border. Fears are easing that al Qaeda will fill the void in Libya.

Libya's beleaguered leader Moammar Gadhafi Thursday blamed the uprising sweeping Libya on Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, accusing the terrorist group of supplying Libyans with pills inducing them to revolt. "Our children have been manipulated by al Qaeda," he told Libyan state television by telephone.
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sonicfilter wrote:
Since the party leaders and Romney had been entirely in favor of the Libyan intervention, and chastised Obama for being too slow to start an unnecessary war, they were in no position to draw attention to the war’s destructive consequences, and they were not inclined to do so. Romney is incapable of “going for the larger argument,” as Krauthammer urges, because there is no larger argument that he or his hawkish allies can make. Where Obama has bungled things, he has usually bungled them by being too hawkish. His failures are their failures.
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Newsflash--Romney's not the POTUS---YET.

(and that's a reallllllllllly pathetic stretch for something-anything to blame-for the foreign policy FAILRE of the current admin on th task at hand).

WTH we doing in Libya-really--until Sept 11th, "WTH we doing in Libya" communications to the status off-have been almost non-existant in the lame stream media.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!
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OldRaider wrote:
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You think Reince Priebus, the sniveling weasel that heads the Republican party is better? This guy is a combination of Barney Fife and Pee Wee Herman.
But in his written statement, he acknowledged that the "ferocity and intensity of the attack was nothing that we had seen in Libya, or that I had seen in my time in the Diplomatic Security Service. Having an extra foot of wall, or an extra-half dozen guards or agents would not have enabled us to respond to that kind of assault."

Nordstrom sounded a forlorn note when he said, "The takeaway from that, for me and my staff, it was abundantly clear, we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident. And the question that we would ask is, again,'How thin does the ice have to get before someone falls through?' "

In a sharply worded opening statement, Chaffetz said the attack on the Benghazi post could have been averted with a small amount of additional resources. He said an earlier bombing at the Benghazi post was a test by terrorists that went unaddressed by authorities.

"I believe we could have and should have saved the life of Ambassador Stevens and the other people who were there," Chaffetz said.

"Big black al qeada flag" been waving for awhile...

derrr "WTH we doing".o0.... in Libya??????????

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And so it goes wrote:
Global warming ended 16 years ago-
"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.
The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.
This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years.
The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
Wow, it looks like global warming is a natural trend that occurs in cycles.
What will Algore do now? He might go on a hunger strike?
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<quoted text>What will Algore do now? He might go on a hunger strike?
Maybe he will invent something.
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Don't worry, the Romney campaign busses people in, that happened in Miami when he appeared on Univision. Everything about Romney is a lie, and fake, staged. The President will be re elected
Hold on, not so fast, we have another debate tomorrow night, we have the 9-11 investigation going on, it's easy to see the cover up. We will be realeased from the chains on November 6 2012.
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The appearance, mostly in Cleveland's predominantly black neighborhoods, of billboards warning against voter fraud is constitutionally protected speech.

It is also insulting, demeaning, belittling speech—coming from people who choose to remain anonymous—and a despicable election tactic.

The billboards, posted here and in Cincinnati and Milwaukee by what has been identified only as a private family foundation, insinuate that the neighborhoods in which they are found are hotbeds of voter fraud, which, of course, they are not.

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/20...

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FIRE THE GOP wrote:
You are wrong!!
Print your slop a thousand more times.
Still will be wrong!
According to Mitt Romney: the buck stops at the presidents desk!
So your boss is wrong?
NATIONAL DEBT: WHO RANG IT UP?
All presidents combined before your Reagan: 7%.
Reagan: 13%
Bush 1: 11%
Bush 2: 43%
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All Republican!!
For stupid fffffcking tax cuts for already wealthy!
Rich guy tax cuts!
Mitt says: do it again!
Choke on that! Dippppschitttt!
Your slop is old and tired!
Lies!
That's why your boss is going to lose!
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Ok, tell me where I'm wrong.
There are many statements in the post. Identify the statement(s) that are wrong and tell us why it is wrong.
I'll help you. Here's the post again:

DBWriter wrote:
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I know I've explained this to you before, but I'll do it one more time. You know, no child left behind.
In case you're like Obama and have never read the Constitution, this is an important point to understand when you discuss the debt and deficit:
Congress has full control of all the purse strings of the US government. The president cannot invent programs to spend on. Only Congress can do that. Only Congress can determine how much to spend on each of the programs only Congress can authorize.
Now, let's review some recent American history:
The Republicans turned over to the Democrats all the purse strings of the US government in January, 2007, with a declining 0.16 (that's zero point one six) trillion dollar deficit. The Democrats have increased that deficit ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT to 2.4 trillion dollars.
The Republicans turned over to the Democrats a total public debt of 5 trillion dollars in January, 2007. The Democrats have more than tripled that debt which is 16 trillion dollars today.
Now, if you repeat the same ignorant stuff you've been regurgitating here, we can accurately describe you as a liar.

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Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text>What will Algore do now? He might go on a hunger strike?
... please don't feed the Gore. ;-)

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In case you get bored with the debate

Rules for Bullshit Bingo:

1. Before Barrack Obama's next televised speech, prepare your "Bullshit Bingo" card by drawing a square.

I find that 5" x 5" is a good size -- and dividing it into columns --five across and five down. That will give you 25 1-inch blocks.

2. Write one of the following words/phrases in each block:

. Restored our reputation
. Strategic fit
. Let me be clear
. Make no mistake
. Back from the brink
. Signs of recovery
. Out of the loop
. Benchmark
. Job creation
. Fiscal restraint
. Win-win
. Affordable health care
. Previous Administration
. Greed on Wall Street
. At the end of the day
. Empower (or empowerment)
. Touch base
. Mindset
. Corporate greed
. Ballpark
. Game plan
. Leverage
. Inherited as in "I inherited this mess"
. Relief for working families (alternate - "unprecedented")

3. Check off the appropriate block when you hear one of those words/phrases.

4. When you get five blocks horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, stand up and shout

"BULLSHIT!"

Testimonials from past satisfied "Bullshit Bingo" players:

"I had been listening to the speech for only five minutes when I won." -
Jack W., Boston

"My attention span during speeches has improved dramatically." - David D.,
Florida

"What a gas! Speeches will never be the same for me after my first win." -
Bill R., New York City

"The atmosphere was tense in the last speech as 14 of us waited for the fifth box." - Ben G., Denver

"The speaker was stunned as eight of us screamed "BULLSHIT!" for the third time in two hours." - Harry A, Chantilly

"This is the most fun I have ever had with my pants up!" Robert H.

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You think Reince Priebus, the sniveling weasel that heads the Republican party is better? This guy is a combination of Barney Fife and Pee Wee Herman.
Yeah! You think Reince Priebus, the sniveling weasel that heads the Republican party is better? This guy is a combination of Barney Fife and Pee Wee Herman.
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America FOREWARNINGS 2013, 2014 -----#----

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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DBWriter wrote:
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Ok, tell me where I'm wrong.
There are many statements in the post. Identify the statement(s) that are wrong and tell us why it is wrong.
I'll help you. Here's the post again:
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
I know I've explained this to you before, but I'll do it one more time. You know, no child left behind.
In case you're like Obama and have never read the Constitution, this is an important point to understand when you discuss the debt and deficit:
Congress has full control of all the purse strings of the US government. The president cannot invent programs to spend on. Only Congress can do that. Only Congress can determine how much to spend on each of the programs only Congress can authorize.
Now, let's review some recent American history:
The Republicans turned over to the Democrats all the purse strings of the US government in January, 2007, with a declining 0.16 (that's zero point one six) trillion dollar deficit. The Democrats have increased that deficit ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT to 2.4 trillion dollars.
The Republicans turned over to the Democrats a total public debt of 5 trillion dollars in January, 2007. The Democrats have more than tripled that debt which is 16 trillion dollars today.
Now, if you repeat the same ignorant stuff you've been regurgitating here, we can accurately describe you as a liar.
Will you ever get tired of making statements of 'fact' with nothing to back them up?

Now do the birther thing and try to lay it back in my lap.

'No, you prove it!''Since I can't!' And there ya go. You in a nutshell. Literally.

So let's hear how a Republican president let Congress run all over him. And much like the Barney Frank F&F myth, it'll take more than a few words.
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Following the debate, Cheney declared that there ”is no question in my mind when I look at Joe Biden and Paul Ryan on the stage there last night, I think Paul Ryan’s got what it takes to take over as president. I don’t think Joe Biden does.”[...]

The former Republican vice president adores the Republican vice presidential candidate because Ryan is a fresh, young Cheney.

Cheney moved to Washington as soon as he could and became a political careerist, working as a Capitol Hill aide, a think-tank hanger on and then a member of Congress. Ryan followed the same insider trajectory.

Cheney’s a hyper-partisan Republican with a history of putting party loyalty above everything else. Ryan’s an equally loyal GOP mandarin.

Cheney’s a rigid ideologue who has never let reality get in the way of cockamamie neocon theories about where to start the next war. And Ryan’s every bit as much a neocon as Cheney.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/170555/paul-rya...
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Countdown to the second Presidential debate...
Only one more day.

1. Will Romney continue to say anything that he believes will get him elected?

2. If so, will Obama continue to respond to Romney’s pandering with passivity?

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sonicfilter wrote:
The appearance, mostly in Cleveland's predominantly black neighborhoods, of billboards warning against voter fraud is constitutionally protected speech.
It is also insulting, demeaning, belittling speech—coming from people who choose to remain anonymous—and a despicable election tactic.
The billboards, posted here and in Cincinnati and Milwaukee by what has been identified only as a private family foundation, insinuate that the neighborhoods in which they are found are hotbeds of voter fraud, which, of course, they are not.
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/20...
Figures....
So, warning people to be aware that the biggest threat to their right to vote is demeaning.
Sounds like a Democrat talking....
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The bigger question is whether Romney’s pivot toward the center occurred too late to rescue him. It’s now October. Voter perceptions and preferences have largely calcified. And from the moment he sewed up the nomination and through to Denver — an eternal-seeming six months — Romney half-heartedly and unconvincingly waged a losing campaign on behalf of movement conservatism. If he wins, I suspect it will be nearly impossible next year for Romney to renege on his promise not to lower the share of taxes paid by the wealthy (though his definition of “middle income” does offer wiggle room). And he strongly signaled that he will not repeal but rather tweak Obamacare and the Dodd-Frank financial reforms.

Practically speaking, Romney has committed himself to a second Obama term — but with lower tax rates and magical growth.

Savor the choice, America!

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/finall...

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