Barack Obama, our next President

There are 20 comments on the Nov 5, 2008, Hampton Roads Daily Press story titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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carol

Orlando, FL

#771246 Oct 14, 2012
Grampy wrote:
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You ask why???
Because it shows just how incompetent your Community Organizer-in-Chief is. How he's more concerned with his own fundraising for re-election than the safety of our diplomats serving in the Arab Spring Hellholes he helped create. It also showed us that the village idiot he picked for his vice president thinks the murder of 4 Americans by al-Qaeda is something to giggle about. And once again, he blames others for his incompetence.
Good morning, Grampy.

Obama has tried to convince us terrorism is on the decline. Calling this a terrorist attack on 9/11 wouldn't have made him look good.

Giuliani lambasted the president.“This was a ‘terrorist attack’. The president has hard time saying those words. He has a hard time saying those words because he lives in a fantasy world. The fantasy world he lives in is that Islamic extremist terrorism, even if it exists, shouldn’t be acknowledged. We pretend they’re not at war with us; we’re certainly not at war with them.”
carol

Orlando, FL

#771247 Oct 14, 2012
Dolphins are being trained for military purposes in the Ukraine.

There's also a military dolphin base in San Diego.

Poor dolphins.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771248 Oct 14, 2012
Don't have anything else to do, so guess I'll just post to myself....

The U-3 unemployment rate fell to 7.8% in September, but the Labor Department noted it was because of the number of persons being employed part time rising from 8.0 million in August to 8.6 million due to hours being cut back or unable to find a full-time job.

The U-6 unemployment rate includes part-time workers who want full-time work and discouraged workers who’ve given up looking. That stayed unchanged at 14.7%.

Which is the true state of the American labor market.

(Maybe it's just a little too early for all of this and I should come back later?)
PDUPONT

Chester, MA

#771249 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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These companies are trying to survive Obamacare and Obama's mandates.
A study found that 30% to 50% of employers who currently provide health insurance for their employees are likely to drop their coverage. Many will not be be able to keep their insurance even if they like it as Obama promised.
It is encouraging employers to drop coverage, perpetuate an already inequitable tax code and discourage work and upward mobility.
Employers are forced to comply with new health care coverage mandates on top of a host of new and costly regulations, all of which are expensive barriers that discourage entrepreneurship and job creation...while struggling to remain profitable.
But you will never get it. So I just wasted my time again.
What study Carol? The one done by Frank Luntz who was censured by the National Council on Public Polls? The fact is that Massachusetts has had the same program since Romney signed it into law and it has had no effect on business at all. Massachusetts has a lower unemployment rate than the national average and 98% of the population is covered by health insurance.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/20...
Shipping the Sensata plant to China has nothing to do with Obamacare stupid, it has everything to do with the unbridled greed of corporate vultures like Bain. Here's another little tidbit about this whole sordid affair; when employees were forced to train the Chinese workers who would replace them the company took down the American flag in front of the plant.
Inequitable tax code nitwit? The tax code hasn't changed since the Bush administration. Yes it is inequitable because these pirates that put American workers out of a job pay less than half the tax rate those employees were paying.
You're wasting your time because like all your posts you're depending on right wing talking points and ignoring facts.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771250 Oct 14, 2012
kuda wrote:
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I understand your analogy even though I disagree with it. Be that as it may, you again assert without evidence that we would have “nothing to lose” by electing Romney. We already have evidence to the contrary in the form of the damage he has done with his attempts at foreign affairs. Furthermore, he could do a lot of harm is his unspecified budget turns out to have no specifics or specifics that just don’t “add up.”
Once again, I a respect your zeal, but can only comment on the form of your presentation. Logic please.
With all due respect, you have to have a certain degree of logic to see where we are headed and what is right in front of you.

Romney's "damage to foreign affairs" is a liberal talking point. No damage has been done whatsoever - except, perhaps, radicals in the Middle East might be a little more shaken up. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#771251 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
Don't have anything else to do, so guess I'll just post to myself....
The U-3 unemployment rate fell to 7.8% in September, but the Labor Department noted it was because of the number of persons being employed part time rising from 8.0 million in August to 8.6 million due to hours being cut back or unable to find a full-time job.
The U-6 unemployment rate includes part-time workers who want full-time work and discouraged workers who’ve given up looking. That stayed unchanged at 14.7%.
Which is the true state of the American labor market.
(Maybe it's just a little too early for all of this and I should come back later?)
You could read some actual news somewhere__a worker was cooked in an oven at a tuna canning plant, Tigers won game one of the ALCS despite a near 9th inning meltdown.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771252 Oct 14, 2012
PDUPONT wrote:
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What study Carol? The one done by Frank Luntz who was censured by the National Council on Public Polls? The fact is that Massachusetts has had the same program since Romney signed it into law and it has had no effect on business at all. Massachusetts has a lower unemployment rate than the national average and 98% of the population is covered by health insurance.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/20...
Shipping the Sensata plant to China has nothing to do with Obamacare stupid, it has everything to do with the unbridled greed of corporate vultures like Bain. Here's another little tidbit about this whole sordid affair; when employees were forced to train the Chinese workers who would replace them the company took down the American flag in front of the plant.
Inequitable tax code nitwit? The tax code hasn't changed since the Bush administration. Yes it is inequitable because these pirates that put American workers out of a job pay less than half the tax rate those employees were paying.
You're wasting your time because like all your posts you're depending on right wing talking points and ignoring facts.
McKinsey and Company. It was so damaging, the White House even responded to it.

http://www.mckinsey.com/Features/US_employer_...

(McKinsey & Company, Inc. is an American global management consulting firm that serves as an adviser to many businesses, governments and institutions and is widely recognized as the most prestigious consulting firm in the world.)
carol

Orlando, FL

#771253 Oct 14, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>You could read some actual news somewhere__a worker was cooked in an oven at a tuna canning plant, Tigers won game one of the ALCS despite a near 9th inning meltdown.
Is the Bureau of Labor and Statistics real enough?

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.ht...

At least the U-6 unemployment rate dropped 0.3 points from 15.0 in July to 14.7 in September.

Should we get out the champagne now or wait until later?
carol

Orlando, FL

#771254 Oct 14, 2012
U-5 doesn't look that good either. It's at 9.3%.

According to the BLS U-5: "Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force."

"Total unemployed" plus "discouraged workers" and "persons marginally attached to the labor force" still at 9.3% should raise a red flag.

Right?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#771255 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
With all due respect, you have to have a certain degree of logic to see where we are headed and what is right in front of you.
Romney's "damage to foreign affairs" is a liberal talking point. No damage has been done whatsoever - except, perhaps, radicals in the Middle East might be a little more shaken up. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?
I do have good logical thinking skills.

Where we are headed is right in front of us. Our jobless rate is improving as it has been over the last three years. Romney inadvertently put Russia on notice by proclaiming it as out number one enemy.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771256 Oct 14, 2012
kuda wrote:
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I do have good logical thinking skills.
Where we are headed is right in front of us. Our jobless rate is improving as it has been over the last three years. Romney inadvertently put Russia on notice by proclaiming it as out number one enemy.
It's limping along at a snail's pace. Obama promised unemployment would be below 5% with his stimulus. It only dropped 0.3 points last month after being over 8% for 42 months. Things are going to get much, much worse when Obamacare kicks in. We're already witnessing the consequences now.

How can you ignore this? You seem pretty intelligent.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#771257 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
With all due respect, you have to have a certain degree of logic to see where we are headed and what is right in front of you.
Romney's "damage to foreign affairs" is a liberal talking point. No damage has been done whatsoever - except, perhaps, radicals in the Middle East might be a little more shaken up. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?
I forgot to mention that shaking up radicals in the Middle East is not a good thing. At any rate, it is not up to a Presidential candidate to meddle in or complicate our foreign affairs. It’s a matter of principle and if Romney were President and Obama were the challenging candidate, I’d make the same argument.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771258 Oct 14, 2012
kuda wrote:
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I forgot to mention that shaking up radicals in the Middle East is not a good thing. At any rate, it is not up to a Presidential candidate to meddle in or complicate our foreign affairs. It’s a matter of principle and if Romney were President and Obama were the challenging candidate, I’d make the same argument.
You're either going to shake them up or appease them.

Which is worse?
RUSH10ME

Warsaw, VA

#771259 Oct 14, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
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So you and your friends are going to try to stop the United States armed forces with your hunting rifles? Are you going to take out some tanks with your Saturday night special? I just hope they televise it live. It should make for some good entertainment.
You actually beliebve any commander in cheif of the united states would order the military to to confiscate weapons or fire upon its citizens , without its citizens who would pay all these massive bills our govt. creates , you know the ones we can't afford now , our millitary is made up of real americans who love this country and its constitution enough to die for them , they will turn on the govt. before their familys and friends .

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771260 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
It's limping along at a snail's pace. Obama promised unemployment would be below 5% with his stimulus. It only dropped 0.3 points last month after being over 8% for 42 months. Things are going to get much, much worse when Obamacare kicks in. We're already witnessing the consequences now.
How can you ignore this? You seem pretty intelligent.
5%????? Really.

The Republican Recession pushed the rate to 10.2%. What rate did they start with again?
carol

Orlando, FL

#771261 Oct 14, 2012
Guess Realtime went back to bed. No comment about BLS statistics.

Or he must think the U-6 unemployment rate is just about right at over 14%.

I was hoping he might have something else to say.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771262 Oct 14, 2012
Posting this again.

All you right whiners want a surplus & fiscal responsibility.

We had it!!!!!

Then Bush took office in 2001.

In June 2012, CBO summarized the cause of change between its January 2001 estimate of a $5.6 trillion cumulative surplus between 2002 and 2011 and the actual $6.1 trillion cumulative deficit that occurred, an unfavorable "turnaround" or debt increase of $11.7 trillion. Tax cuts and slower-than-expected growth reduced revenues by $6.1 trillion and spending was $5.6 trillion higher. Of this total, the CBO attributes 72% to legislated tax cuts and spending increases and 27% to economic and technical factors. Of the latter, 56% occurred from 2009 to 2011.[38][39]
The difference between the projected and actual debt in 2011 can be largely attributed to:
$3.5 trillion – Economic changes (including lower than expected tax revenues and higher safety net spending due to recession)
$1.6 trillion – Bush Tax Cuts (EGTRRA and JGTRRA), primarily tax cuts but also some smaller spending increases
$1.5 trillion - Increased non-defense discretionary spending
$1.4 trillion – Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
$1.4 trillion - Incremental interest due to higher debt balances
$0.9 trillion - Obama stimulus and tax cuts (ARRA and Tax Act of 2010)[40]
The U.S. budget situation has deteriorated significantly since 2001, when the CBO forecast average annual surpluses of approximately $850 billion from 2009–2012. The average deficit forecast in each of those years as of June 2009 was approximately $1,215 billion. The New York Times analyzed this roughly $2 trillion "swing", separating the causes into four major categories along with their share:
Recessions or the business cycle (37%);
Policies enacted by President Bush (33%);
Policies enacted by President Bush and supported or extended by President Obama (20%); and
New policies from President Obama (10%).
Several other articles and experts explained the causes of change in the debt position.

So there Tea Party members. We had what ou wanted.

Look who took us ff that path.

Paul Ryan, voting yes yes yes.

Republicans did this.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#771263 Oct 14, 2012
Why is John Galt?

The rational self-interest in turning the conservative movement into a cash cow

To Rand, appreciation of artistic works is a rational process related to the ideas conveyed therein. The Ayn Rand cult, during its early days, took this godless Thomism to extremes, blacklisting certain books and proscribing Rand-disapproved music. An Objectivist is supposed to approve or disapprove of things precisely because of the ideas conveyed.

The problem is that they’re bad ideas, and bad ideas wrapped up in a cult of personality. Rand wrongly castigated libertarians for plagiarizing her ideas, but it was really the other way around. She turned a political philosophy into a easily-sold comprehensive philosophy based on simplified moral precepts. It’s a common technique among hucksters, to bundle unoriginal or unappealing thinking beneath a complete, marketable View of the World. In that she has more in common with L. Ron Hubbard or Edgar Cayce than Aristotle.

But all of this would be relegated to the universe of eccentrics and eccentrics funding eccentrics were it not for the fact that the primary marketing vehicle for the film is the conservative movement. Groups like Americans for Prosperity are holding screenings, and Sean Hannity and other Fox contributors have been tweeting their excitement about cameo appearances. Atlas Society founder David Kelley, who provided advice on the script, has made himself available for interviews.

So are the movie’s creators and institutional boosters simply mounting a good-faith defense of capitalism via the conservative movement? Or are they exploiting a politically active, underserved, media-aggrieved demographic to elevate their own profiles and make a buck? Objectively speaking, which would Rand prefer?

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#771264 Oct 14, 2012
RUSH10ME wrote:
<quoted text>You actually beliebve any commander in cheif of the united states would order the military to to confiscate weapons or fire upon its citizens , without its citizens who would pay all these massive bills our govt. creates , you know the ones we can't afford now , our millitary is made up of real americans who love this country and its constitution enough to die for them , they will turn on the govt. before their familys and friends .
The Muslim Hussein would be hanging from a tree in the rose garden within minutes of such an order. The military hates Obama!

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771265 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
Guess Realtime went back to bed. No comment about BLS statistics.
Or he must think the U-6 unemployment rate is just about right at over 14%.
I was hoping he might have something else to say.
The U6 basically mirrors the Unemployment rate. It was 14% when Bush left office.

Bush's recession drove that rate to over 17%.

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