Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1277364 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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carol

Orlando, FL

#771252 Oct 14, 2012
PDUPONT wrote:
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What study Carol? The one done by Frank Luntz who was censured by the National Council on Public Polls? The fact is that Massachusetts has had the same program since Romney signed it into law and it has had no effect on business at all. Massachusetts has a lower unemployment rate than the national average and 98% of the population is covered by health insurance.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/20...
Shipping the Sensata plant to China has nothing to do with Obamacare stupid, it has everything to do with the unbridled greed of corporate vultures like Bain. Here's another little tidbit about this whole sordid affair; when employees were forced to train the Chinese workers who would replace them the company took down the American flag in front of the plant.
Inequitable tax code nitwit? The tax code hasn't changed since the Bush administration. Yes it is inequitable because these pirates that put American workers out of a job pay less than half the tax rate those employees were paying.
You're wasting your time because like all your posts you're depending on right wing talking points and ignoring facts.
McKinsey and Company. It was so damaging, the White House even responded to it.

http://www.mckinsey.com/Features/US_employer_...

(McKinsey & Company, Inc. is an American global management consulting firm that serves as an adviser to many businesses, governments and institutions and is widely recognized as the most prestigious consulting firm in the world.)
carol

Orlando, FL

#771253 Oct 14, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>You could read some actual news somewhere__a worker was cooked in an oven at a tuna canning plant, Tigers won game one of the ALCS despite a near 9th inning meltdown.
Is the Bureau of Labor and Statistics real enough?

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.ht...

At least the U-6 unemployment rate dropped 0.3 points from 15.0 in July to 14.7 in September.

Should we get out the champagne now or wait until later?
carol

Orlando, FL

#771254 Oct 14, 2012
U-5 doesn't look that good either. It's at 9.3%.

According to the BLS U-5: "Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force."

"Total unemployed" plus "discouraged workers" and "persons marginally attached to the labor force" still at 9.3% should raise a red flag.

Right?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#771255 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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With all due respect, you have to have a certain degree of logic to see where we are headed and what is right in front of you.
Romney's "damage to foreign affairs" is a liberal talking point. No damage has been done whatsoever - except, perhaps, radicals in the Middle East might be a little more shaken up. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?
I do have good logical thinking skills.

Where we are headed is right in front of us. Our jobless rate is improving as it has been over the last three years. Romney inadvertently put Russia on notice by proclaiming it as out number one enemy.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771256 Oct 14, 2012
kuda wrote:
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I do have good logical thinking skills.
Where we are headed is right in front of us. Our jobless rate is improving as it has been over the last three years. Romney inadvertently put Russia on notice by proclaiming it as out number one enemy.
It's limping along at a snail's pace. Obama promised unemployment would be below 5% with his stimulus. It only dropped 0.3 points last month after being over 8% for 42 months. Things are going to get much, much worse when Obamacare kicks in. We're already witnessing the consequences now.

How can you ignore this? You seem pretty intelligent.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#771257 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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With all due respect, you have to have a certain degree of logic to see where we are headed and what is right in front of you.
Romney's "damage to foreign affairs" is a liberal talking point. No damage has been done whatsoever - except, perhaps, radicals in the Middle East might be a little more shaken up. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?
I forgot to mention that shaking up radicals in the Middle East is not a good thing. At any rate, it is not up to a Presidential candidate to meddle in or complicate our foreign affairs. It’s a matter of principle and if Romney were President and Obama were the challenging candidate, I’d make the same argument.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771258 Oct 14, 2012
kuda wrote:
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I forgot to mention that shaking up radicals in the Middle East is not a good thing. At any rate, it is not up to a Presidential candidate to meddle in or complicate our foreign affairs. It’s a matter of principle and if Romney were President and Obama were the challenging candidate, I’d make the same argument.
You're either going to shake them up or appease them.

Which is worse?
RUSH10ME

Warsaw, VA

#771259 Oct 14, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
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So you and your friends are going to try to stop the United States armed forces with your hunting rifles? Are you going to take out some tanks with your Saturday night special? I just hope they televise it live. It should make for some good entertainment.
You actually beliebve any commander in cheif of the united states would order the military to to confiscate weapons or fire upon its citizens , without its citizens who would pay all these massive bills our govt. creates , you know the ones we can't afford now , our millitary is made up of real americans who love this country and its constitution enough to die for them , they will turn on the govt. before their familys and friends .

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771260 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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It's limping along at a snail's pace. Obama promised unemployment would be below 5% with his stimulus. It only dropped 0.3 points last month after being over 8% for 42 months. Things are going to get much, much worse when Obamacare kicks in. We're already witnessing the consequences now.
How can you ignore this? You seem pretty intelligent.
5%????? Really.

The Republican Recession pushed the rate to 10.2%. What rate did they start with again?
carol

Orlando, FL

#771261 Oct 14, 2012
Guess Realtime went back to bed. No comment about BLS statistics.

Or he must think the U-6 unemployment rate is just about right at over 14%.

I was hoping he might have something else to say.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771262 Oct 14, 2012
Posting this again.

All you right whiners want a surplus & fiscal responsibility.

We had it!!!!!

Then Bush took office in 2001.

In June 2012, CBO summarized the cause of change between its January 2001 estimate of a $5.6 trillion cumulative surplus between 2002 and 2011 and the actual $6.1 trillion cumulative deficit that occurred, an unfavorable "turnaround" or debt increase of $11.7 trillion. Tax cuts and slower-than-expected growth reduced revenues by $6.1 trillion and spending was $5.6 trillion higher. Of this total, the CBO attributes 72% to legislated tax cuts and spending increases and 27% to economic and technical factors. Of the latter, 56% occurred from 2009 to 2011.[38][39]
The difference between the projected and actual debt in 2011 can be largely attributed to:
$3.5 trillion – Economic changes (including lower than expected tax revenues and higher safety net spending due to recession)
$1.6 trillion – Bush Tax Cuts (EGTRRA and JGTRRA), primarily tax cuts but also some smaller spending increases
$1.5 trillion - Increased non-defense discretionary spending
$1.4 trillion – Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
$1.4 trillion - Incremental interest due to higher debt balances
$0.9 trillion - Obama stimulus and tax cuts (ARRA and Tax Act of 2010)[40]
The U.S. budget situation has deteriorated significantly since 2001, when the CBO forecast average annual surpluses of approximately $850 billion from 2009–2012. The average deficit forecast in each of those years as of June 2009 was approximately $1,215 billion. The New York Times analyzed this roughly $2 trillion "swing", separating the causes into four major categories along with their share:
Recessions or the business cycle (37%);
Policies enacted by President Bush (33%);
Policies enacted by President Bush and supported or extended by President Obama (20%); and
New policies from President Obama (10%).
Several other articles and experts explained the causes of change in the debt position.

So there Tea Party members. We had what ou wanted.

Look who took us ff that path.

Paul Ryan, voting yes yes yes.

Republicans did this.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#771263 Oct 14, 2012
Why is John Galt?

The rational self-interest in turning the conservative movement into a cash cow

To Rand, appreciation of artistic works is a rational process related to the ideas conveyed therein. The Ayn Rand cult, during its early days, took this godless Thomism to extremes, blacklisting certain books and proscribing Rand-disapproved music. An Objectivist is supposed to approve or disapprove of things precisely because of the ideas conveyed.

The problem is that they’re bad ideas, and bad ideas wrapped up in a cult of personality. Rand wrongly castigated libertarians for plagiarizing her ideas, but it was really the other way around. She turned a political philosophy into a easily-sold comprehensive philosophy based on simplified moral precepts. It’s a common technique among hucksters, to bundle unoriginal or unappealing thinking beneath a complete, marketable View of the World. In that she has more in common with L. Ron Hubbard or Edgar Cayce than Aristotle.

But all of this would be relegated to the universe of eccentrics and eccentrics funding eccentrics were it not for the fact that the primary marketing vehicle for the film is the conservative movement. Groups like Americans for Prosperity are holding screenings, and Sean Hannity and other Fox contributors have been tweeting their excitement about cameo appearances. Atlas Society founder David Kelley, who provided advice on the script, has made himself available for interviews.

So are the movie’s creators and institutional boosters simply mounting a good-faith defense of capitalism via the conservative movement? Or are they exploiting a politically active, underserved, media-aggrieved demographic to elevate their own profiles and make a buck? Objectively speaking, which would Rand prefer?

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#771264 Oct 14, 2012
RUSH10ME wrote:
<quoted text>You actually beliebve any commander in cheif of the united states would order the military to to confiscate weapons or fire upon its citizens , without its citizens who would pay all these massive bills our govt. creates , you know the ones we can't afford now , our millitary is made up of real americans who love this country and its constitution enough to die for them , they will turn on the govt. before their familys and friends .
The Muslim Hussein would be hanging from a tree in the rose garden within minutes of such an order. The military hates Obama!

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771265 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
Guess Realtime went back to bed. No comment about BLS statistics.
Or he must think the U-6 unemployment rate is just about right at over 14%.
I was hoping he might have something else to say.
The U6 basically mirrors the Unemployment rate. It was 14% when Bush left office.

Bush's recession drove that rate to over 17%.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#771267 Oct 14, 2012
Romney Will Be a “Replay of the Bush Administration”

The L.A. Times reports on the latest official Russian reaction to Romney:

“We don’t think that for us Romney will be an easy partner,” said Pushkov, an ally of President Vladimir Putin.“We think that Romney will be, on the rhetorical side, a replay of the Bush administration.”

He also noted Romney’s statements that the United States should assert its dominance in the 21st century.

“If he is serious about this, I’m afraid he may choose the neocon-type people…In the first year of his presidency, we may have a full-scale crisis,” he said.

Obviously, the Russians have their own reasons for saying this. It’s understandable that they would not be pleased by the prospect of the election of the most rhetorically anti-Russian candidate since the end of the Cold War. Then again, why should Americans be any more pleased? Pushkov might be exaggerating for effect, but he might not. As a matter of fact, Romney has given every indication that his foreign policy is supposed to be a “replay of the Bush administration.” This is a natural conclusion that anyone should reach after reviewing a list of his positions, statements, and advisers.

Notice what Pushkov isn’t saying. It gets to the heart of why Romney’s foreign policy is generally so misguided. One of the main themes of all of Romney’s foreign policy views that he will project American strength, that Obama has failed to project that strength, and that other states will respond positively to Romney when he does this. Pushkov isn’t saying,“We respect other states when they are confrontational and provocative, and we are more likely to reach agreement on disputed issues once there is someone like Romney in charge in Washington.” Other states generally don’t react well to the sort of domineering, aggressive policies that Romney has proposed. Other states that consider themselves great powers are even less likely to react well.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...

Sorry about the lack of 'lib talking points'.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771268 Oct 14, 2012
Grampy wrote:
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You ask why???
Because it shows just how incompetent your Community Organizer-in-Chief is. How he's more concerned with his own fundraising for re-election than the safety of our diplomats serving in the Arab Spring Hellholes he helped create. It also showed us that the village idiot he picked for his vice president thinks the murder of 4 Americans by al-Qaeda is something to giggle about. And once again, he blames others for his incompetence.
I get it, Romney & Ryan gets to use 4 dead Americans as a place to spread lies for political purposes.

How pathetic is that.
carol

Orlando, FL

#771269 Oct 14, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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5%????? Really.
The Republican Recession pushed the rate to 10.2%. What rate did they start with again?
The unemployment rate was below 5% until March 2008 and 7.8% when Obama took office. It shot up to 10% by October of that year and hovered at over 9% until just very recently.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

By the way, it stayed under 5% from June 2005 until February 2008. Ironically enough, Democrats took control of Congress in January 2008. Unemployment continued to steadily rise.

If only the majority of Democrats (and some Republicans) had agreed with Bush that Fannie and Freddie was a disaster waiting to happen before it was too late...

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771270 Oct 14, 2012
glennm69 wrote:
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Hey dum dum.
Your boy Obama promised America that Bush was unpatriotic for the deficits during the Bush administration. He promised he would cut that deficit in half.
The deficit was 10 Billion when Obama took office. The deifit which was supposed to be cut in half is now 16 Billion. That means Obama added 6 billion to the debt in less than 4 years.
If Bush was responsible for the entire 10 Billion (which he isn't) that debt was amased over an 8 year period of time. That means that instead of reducing the debt like he promised to do Obama is increasing the deficit at a much higher rate then Bush ever did. Since he promised to cut the 10 Billion down to 5 Billion and he aded another 6 Billion that means Obama is only about 11 Billion behind what was promised when he ran in 2008.
The only reason the debt is at 16 Billion is because the Republicans put the brake on spending when the 2010 midterm elections took place.
Obama has consistantly offered budget proposals that would have increased the current deficit at a much more rapid rate. Not even the dum dums in the Senate were dum enough to pass Obama's insanity.
When pushed, yet another right whiner resorts to racial slurs.
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#771271 Oct 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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Good morning, Grampy.
Obama has tried to convince us terrorism is on the decline. Calling this a terrorist attack on 9/11 wouldn't have made him look good.
Giuliani lambasted the president.“This was a ‘terrorist attack’. The president has hard time saying those words. He has a hard time saying those words because he lives in a fantasy world. The fantasy world he lives in is that Islamic extremist terrorism, even if it exists, shouldn’t be acknowledged. We pretend they’re not at war with us; we’re certainly not at war with them.”
Good morning. He's a clueless narcistic fool.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#771272 Oct 14, 2012
glennm69 wrote:
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It is Obama who is moving American jobs to China.
He did so in the sake of "investing" in green energy jobs. Billions of green energy funds went to pay the salaries of Chinese workers making green lightbulbs. This is compounded by federal regulations with disallow the sale of anything but green lightbulbs.(he wants those chinese workers to enjoy some job security after all)
His job czar wad personally responsible for moving jobs manufacturing medical imaging equipment from the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area (where it has been for decades) to Bejing.
You do realize that the legislation hat ended the old style light bulbs was signed by Bush, right???

Of course not.

Obama didn't move anything. Corporate America did.

Because they get a tax advantage. An advantage Romney wants to increase & Obama wants to end.

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