Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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carol

Orlando, FL

#770478 Oct 13, 2012
kuda wrote:
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Actually, no, that’s not how budgets are done. Speculating there will be chickens and then counting them before they hatch is either wishful thinking or a “bill of goods.” All that glitters is not gold. The Ryan budget just doesn’t, nor could it possibly, add up without any numbers. Arithmetic requires numbers.
Even if the all the numbers don't add up nice and tidy-like with the Romney/Ryan plan, the formula still is a winner:

Compare this...

More incentives to hire; more people working, more people paying taxes; closing loophole so wealthy pay more; cutting back size of federal government in lieu of states' rights; and cutting spending unless absolutely necessary.

To this, the alternative...

A second Obama term would guarantee the president’s health care law will be fully implemented, and businesses are warning that may affect their employees.

Darden Restaurants, which owns more than 2000 restaurants and employs 180,000 people is the latest industry to look for a way to avoid ObamaCare.

White Castle, McDonald’s and Denny’s have said they are looking for a way to avoid the new employer mandate due to take effect in 2014.

Westgate Resorts CEO David Siegel who employs 7000 people has warned if Obama wins, there will likely be layoffs.

Employment law attorney, Robert B. Fitzpatrick, made a prediction if Obama wins re-election:“...You're just playing with the numbers and playing with the hours to try to avoid compliance with providing health care to employees...and there are going to be consequences.”

..."and there will be consequences..."

In fact, we are seeing the consequences even before 2014.

The choice couldn't be more clear.

Since: Nov 09

Beaver Island, MI

#770479 Oct 13, 2012
yepperz wrote:
WASHINGTON -- During Thursday night's vice presidential debate, Vice President Joe Biden attacked Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) for criticizing the president's stimulus act despite having sent two separate requests for stimulus funds for his district.
Biden was wrong. Ryan sent at least four requests.
A Freedom of Information Act request for correspondence between Ryan's office and the Environmental Protection Agency, filed by The Huffington Post, unearthed two additional instances in which the Wisconsin Republican petitioned for American Recovery Act funds. In addition, there were many other occasions in which the GOP vice presidential nominee asked the EPA for grant money for projects in Wisconsin's 1st District, which encompasses Ryan's hometown of Janesville and has a slight Democratic lean. Combined, the letters muddy Ryan's claim that the stimulus wasn't helpful and that government spending, more broadly, doesn't assist small businesses.
As the AP noted, Ryan made many such petitions while in Congress. He asked the Food Stamps Access Research program to approve a grant proposal by the Kenosha community center for purposes of educating families about the nutritional benefits of food stamps. In 2002, he wrote the Agriculture Department to help with a loan guarantee to develop a pork packing and processing plant for farms. In 2010, he wrote the Department of Health and Human Services to send money to a Kenosha health center to help "thousands of new patients" get coverage.
Paul Ryan letters.........
http://www.scribd.com/doc/109858723/Paul-Ryan -
“I did not request any stimulus money,” he continued.– Ryan said that he would not vote against something “then write to the government to ask them to send us money.”
"No, I never asked for stimulus," Ryan told WCPO-TV on Thursday. "I oppose the stimulus because it doesn't work. It didn't work. It brought us deeper into debt."
This is great but you left out the best part where Ryan claimed the stimulus money to Wisconsin would create jobs.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#770480 Oct 13, 2012
glennm69 wrote:
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Has anyone ever been able to figure out what Obama actually "did" to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize or was it awarded for his message of hope and change?
He hasn't done anything to deserve it that is for sure.
The liberals gave O'bama a medal just for 'trying' to bring down America. The Nobel Peace Prize is run by the same communists that O'bama ascribes to me.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#770481 Oct 13, 2012
Obama Campaign Office Shooting: Shot Fired Into Denver Building, None Hurt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/obam...

Long trip fred?

Since: Sep 08

Joliet, Illinois

#770482 Oct 13, 2012
PDUPONT wrote:
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What damage nitwit? The damage was done by Republican policies that Romney and Ryan want to double down on.
You're an idiot!
The damamge has been done by the Obama administration doubleing down on the nations debt to accomplish..... nothing.

(well.... he has managed to dole out billions of borrowed funds to his political cronies that helped him get elected. Problem is... all of them have gone bankrupt and now all of that money is gone. probably in his supporter's swiss bank accounts.)

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#770483 Oct 13, 2012
fred wrote:
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Nonsense. Kenyan Democrats are communists who demand conformity and servile loyalty. Republicans are free thinkers.
Uh, sorry to have to correct yet another "brilliant" Republican. Kenya's government is a republic. Idiot.
carol

Orlando, FL

#770484 Oct 13, 2012
kuda wrote:
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Again, doing the math means demonstrating with number values that increased revenues from closing loopholes will be sufficient to offset debits. Accounting is not based on faith in the validity of a theory. While you may be confident that billions of dollars will result from trickle-down economics (that’s why it’s called voodoo economics), your confidence doesn’t constitute a substitute for formal logic (math). No bank would approve a loan based solely on borrower confidence.
You have two choices. The math certainly didn't add up under this administration's arithmetic - the result is still high unemployment with more and more industries finding ways to avoid the excessive costs and mandates of Obamacare.

Insurance premiums are already on the rise. More people are going to be dependent on government because businesses are cutting back employee hours and employees to avoid excessive health care costs under Obamacare.

Unless the Romney/Ryan is given an opportunity to do better than this, we have absolutely nothing to lose.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#770485 Oct 13, 2012
carol wrote:
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Even if the all the numbers don't add up nice and tidy-like with the Romney/Ryan plan, the formula still is a winner:
Compare this...
More incentives to hire; more people working, more people paying taxes; closing loophole so wealthy pay more; cutting back size of federal government in lieu of states' rights; and cutting spending unless absolutely necessary.
To this, the alternative...
A second Obama term would guarantee the president’s health care law will be fully implemented, and businesses are warning that may affect their employees.
Darden Restaurants, which owns more than 2000 restaurants and employs 180,000 people is the latest industry to look for a way to avoid ObamaCare.
White Castle, McDonald’s and Denny’s have said they are looking for a way to avoid the new employer mandate due to take effect in 2014.
Westgate Resorts CEO David Siegel who employs 7000 people has warned if Obama wins, there will likely be layoffs.
Employment law attorney, Robert B. Fitzpatrick, made a prediction if Obama wins re-election:“...You're just playing with the numbers and playing with the hours to try to avoid compliance with providing health care to employees...and there are going to be consequences.”
..."and there will be consequences..."
In fact, we are seeing the consequences even before 2014.
The choice couldn't be more clear.
Quoted, directly, from Fox News. Quite a reputable source....
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#770486 Oct 13, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Obama Campaign Office Shooting: Shot Fired Into Denver Building, None Hurt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/obam...
Long trip fred?
Sounds like an inside job. Tawana Brawley type incident...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#770487 Oct 13, 2012
Grampy wrote:
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Bush quit drinking in 1986. Unlike crackhead Barack, no bragging of his drug history. If he did drugs he didn't need to brag about it to get street creds and win over his voting constituancy.
Obama is still a crackhead! Look at all his celebrity friends, rap artist friends, radical friends, etc. They don't sit around drinking tea and play yahtzee. They do coke and plan the demise of the USA!
<<wishing there was a MORON button to Judge this comment.>>
fred

Milford, CT

#770488 Oct 13, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Obama Campaign Office Shooting: Shot Fired Into Denver Building, None Hurt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/obam...
Long trip fred?
The Kenyan's communist coup has brought America to the brink of class war. Happy now?

Will The Election Results Cause Massive Riots To Erupt All Over America?

Michael Snyder
The Economic Collapse
Oct 12, 2012

Will the most divisive campaign in modern American history culminate in massive riots in our major cities? Right now, supporters of Barack Obama and supporters of Mitt Romney are both pinning all of their hopes on a victory on November 6th. The race for the presidency is extremely tight, and obviously the side that loses is going to be extremely disappointed when the election results are finalized. But could this actually lead to violence? Could we actually see rioting in communities all over America? Well, the conditions are certainly ripe for it. A whole host of surveys over the past few years have shown that Americans are very angry and very frustrated right now
carol

Orlando, FL

#770489 Oct 13, 2012
PDUPONT wrote:
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Sure Carol but what's the GOP's answer? Cut taxes and regulations which didn't do anything the last time it was tried. Let's take a look at the Romney way of doing business.
Sensata Technologies in Illinois made sensors for the automobile industry and made record profits with the resurgence of the auto industry. That wasn't enough for its owners Bain Capital who figured they could line their own pockets even more by shipping the jobs and equipment to China. While Romney is no longer with Bain it's his business strategy that they're going by and as a major stockholder he still makes money from their deals. The workers of Sensata went to Iowa and to the GOP convention in Tampa to plead their case directly with Romney who as the founder and a major stockholder in Bain still has considerable influence. Their pleas fell on deaf ears.
Bain in addition to padding their profits by paying Chinese workers a fraction of what the American workers were making got a tax deduction for shipping those jobs and equipment to China. Democrats have introduced legislation to end this deduction but have been consistently blocked by the Republicans.
Industries are dropping people from full-time employment and firing employees like dead flies.

However, if you think this is the better alternative over providing incentives to put people back to work again, you go right ahead and vote for another four years of failure.

I'm going to vote my conscience. There's a better alternative.

Since: Sep 08

Joliet, Illinois

#770491 Oct 13, 2012
kuda wrote:
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“You dum dums?” That’s not a way to preface a persuasive argument. Reason works better than baseball bats in debates.
I do “grasp the overall concept of what is happening to the country” and apparently my assessment differs from yours. Therefore, you assume that my assessment is incorrect and conclude that I must be a “dum dum.”
Details do matter. If Romney/Ryan say they have a budget, reasonable people will be convinced if the can see it, but being told that it is still incomplete is not convincing.
I isn't my fault you are a dum dum.... Go look in a mirror and you will find your reason there.

I would be willing to bet that you are one of those people who actually believe anything said, printed by, or televised by the left leaning, Soros funded, left wing media.

Unlike the Democrats who have tabled the budget for the past 3.5 years the Republicans have presented, debated, and passed a budget for each of the years since 2010.
obamas_half_bro

Blanchard, OK

#770492 Oct 13, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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Because of the f*cking recession, dumbass.
But hey, brilliant morons like you ant to put those responsible back in power.
Booger ooger chukkaa
(People like you gave FDR 14 freakin years to fux things)

Doggi e a ettin booggity boogity
(Enough blame ti go round. Gov to big...it has to shrink when 2.5. Trillion in yr taxes is not cutting it you are plain stupid to think giving them more is answer)

Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#770493 Oct 13, 2012
Grampy wrote:
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Defense spending creates American jobs!
Obama's glut of entitlement spending creates increased drug sales, and drug cartel jobs for Mexicans.
So gov't does create jobs? Spending on education creates more than twice as many jobs as spending on the military.
What you state doesn't speak to Romney's hypocrisy regarding his military budget. Romney wants to add $2 trillion to the defense budget. With what, pixie dust?? We could cut "defense" and still ensure our safety from foreign threats.
The US spends more on its military than the next 19 biggest spending nations combined. If the point of spending is to create jobs, then the military is the last place that we would want to put our dollars. The military contractors are screwing this country. 300 dollar hammers...600 dollar toilet seats...1200 dollar coffee makers....think there might be a little price gouging? And who makes the money? Can you say Defense Contractors? Talk about waste.

http://www.peri.umass.edu/236/hash/0b0ce6af7f...

The U.S. Employment Effects of Military and Domestic Spending Priorities: 2011 Update
Robert Pollin | Heidi Garrett-Peltier | 11/28/2011

This study focuses on the employment effects of military spending versus alternative domestic spending priorities, in particular investments in clean energy, health care and education. We first present some simple alternative spending scenarios, namely devoting $1 billion to the military versus the same amount of money spent on clean energy, health care, and education, as well as for tax cuts which produce increased levels of personal consumption.

Our conclusion in assessing such relative employment impacts is straightforward:$1 billion spent on each of the domestic spending priorities will create substantially more jobs within the U.S. economy than would the same $1 billion spent on the military. We then examine the pay level of jobs created through these alternative spending priorities and assess the overall welfare impacts of the alternative employment outcomes. We show that investments in clean energy, health care and education create a much larger number of jobs across all pay ranges, including mid-range jobs (paying between $32,000 and $64,000) and high-paying jobs (paying over $64,000). Channeling funds into clean energy, health care and education in an effective way will therefore create significantly greater opportunities for decent employment throughout the U.S. economy than spending the same amount of funds with the military.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#770494 Oct 13, 2012
After November election will Obama move back to Chicago or will he like his Pastor Wright move into a gated community?
FIRE THE GOP

Lillington, NC

#770495 Oct 13, 2012
Hey liar!

Here is Mitt Romney:

I will cut taxes for the richest 4 times more than Bush!

Bush lost 8 million jobs.

But I, Mitt Romney, by the power of my God from Uranus:

Will command Corp America to hire, Hire, HIRE!

(it won't really matter if they do so! Me and my richest on earth will be even more filthy rich! The government will be weaker: so we will demand more budget cuts!)

Ha ha ha!

Mitt Romney!

Under him:

Say goodbye:

Medicare! Gone.
Social Security! Gone.
Education! Gone.
Worker protection: Gone.

More money for billionaires? Yes! Yes! Yes!

Search: Mitt Romney Serial Liar
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if the all the numbers don't add up nice and tidy-like with the Romney/Ryan plan, the formula still is a winner:
Compare this...
More incentives to hire; more people working, more people paying taxes; closing loophole so wealthy pay more; cutting back size of federal government in lieu of states' rights; and cutting spending unless absolutely necessary.
To this, the alternative...
A second Obama term would guarantee the president’s health care law will be fully implemented, and businesses are warning that may affect their employees.
Darden Restaurants, which owns more than 2000 restaurants and employs 180,000 people is the latest industry to look for a way to avoid ObamaCare.
White Castle, McDonald’s and Denny’s have said they are looking for a way to avoid the new employer mandate due to take effect in 2014.
Westgate Resorts CEO David Siegel who employs 7000 people has warned if Obama wins, there will likely be layoffs.
Employment law attorney, Robert B. Fitzpatrick, made a prediction if Obama wins re-election:“...You're just playing with the numbers and playing with the hours to try to avoid compliance with providing health care to employees...and there are going to be consequences.”
..."and there will be consequences..."
In fact, we are seeing the consequences even before 2014.
The choice couldn't be more clear.

Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#770496 Oct 13, 2012
OldRaider wrote:
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This is great but you left out the best part where Ryan claimed the stimulus money to Wisconsin would create jobs.
Yup, that too. Which side of his mouth did that come from?
O Baloney

West Babylon, NY

#770497 Oct 13, 2012
OldRaider wrote:
Last week when the main stream media reported that Romney won the debate they were hailed by the right as impeccable sources of truth. This week when the same media reported that Biden won, the right cries bias.
The philosophy of the loony right is to take both sides of an issue when its convenient for them. Another example is their desire to have less government regulation in their lives. But in the case of a woman's body they want MORE regulation. I guess I see why these morons support Romney, he is on both sides of every issue too.
Who thought Biden won? He is a laughing stock. The only difference between him and Obama was you could tell someone was IN the chair, actually falling out of the chair.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#770498 Oct 13, 2012
How Does a Traditionalist Vote?

An intelligent conservative’s guide to the presidential election

I’ve said on Facebook that I’m tempted to cut out the middleman this November and write in a vote for Goldman Sachs. But if you’re a traditionalist conservative and you want to accept one of the offerings officially on your ballot, which do you choose?

For partisans, this is a no-brainer. For conservatives in the vein of, say, Russell Kirk, it’s anything but. Faced with the non-choice between Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Thomas Dewey in 1944, Kirk said no to empire and voted for Norman Thomas, the Socialist Party candidate. There was no Fox News to tell him a conservative couldn’t do that.

For all that Kirk didn’t like libertarians —“chirping sectaries,” he called them — if he were in search of a peace candidate today he might well consider the Libertarian Party’s Gary Johnson. Or, closer to Norman Thomas, the Green Party’s Jill Stein.

There’s even an anti-empire case — not a strong one, but one outlined by Justin Raimondo here — for Barack Obama. The incumbent is at least incrementally better than his Republican rival on foreign policy. It’s impossible to imagine Romney not having done every bellicose thing that Obama that did in his first term (from ramping up the drone war in Pakistan to participating in the Libya attack), and Romney has promised a great deal more: more brinksmanship with Iran, more baiting of Russian bears and Chinese dragons, more taxpayer dollars for Pentagon pork. For a smaller military budget and the prospect of fewer wars — according to both candidates themselves — a pragmatic anti-empire conservative might lean toward Obama.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...

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