Barack Obama, our next President

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Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767736 Oct 11, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
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Unfortunately, he is dead because the Obama administration did not listen to the Ambassadors pleas for more security!!!!!!!!!! It is as simple as that!!!!
He didn't plead for more security. He wanted less American security because he believed the Libyan security in Tripoli was adequate. He traveled to Benghazi from Tripoli without Washington's knowledge. The State department would surely have advised against it had they known.
OBAMA LOSE 2012

Gainesville, FL

#767737 Oct 11, 2012
In such discussions and negotiations between the political branches, there is a continuum between good-faith cooperation or compromise and bad-faith refusal to accommodate the legitimate needs of the other branch.
The Supreme Court has on several occasions recognized Congress’s broad power to look into executive branch actions as auxiliary to its legislative function. As the Court said in McGrain v. Daugherty (1926):
[T]he power of inquiry—with process to enforce it—is an essential and appropriate auxiliary to the legislative function…. A legislative body cannot legislate wisely or effectively in the absence of information respecting the conditions which the legislation is intended to affect or change, and where the legislative body does not itself possess the requisite information—which not infrequently is true—recourse must be had to others who do possess it.[32]
Yet Congress has no power to micromanage the President’s execution of the laws, and it must also respect the President’s chain of command and need for frank and confidential advice.
The general principle that flows from the separation of powers embodied in the Constitution is that each branch owes a duty of comity to the legitimate needs of the other branches. Neither the executive branch nor the legislative branch should automatically prevail in disputes over information requests, but certain corollaries flow from the general principle. For example, Congress should accept different types of information than was requested if such information reasonably satisfies its legitimate legislative functions, especially if the executive has a good reason to withhold the remaining documents or witnesses. On the other hand, when a congressional committee has established its legitimate legislative purpose, a purposeful delay by the executive to respond or a blanket refusal to comply without sufficient accommodations or other information is generally not justified.
As between Congress and the executive branch, various other factors suggest the presence or absence of good-faith negotiations or accommodations. The relative importance or needs of each branch must be taken into account. For instance, a minor concern from the executive branch should yield to a substantial legislative need, and vice versa. Moreover, a simple desire to prevent embarrassment or shield wrongdoing is never a sufficient justification to withhold information when Congress has a legitimate legislative need, and blanket refusals to comply with information requests without adequate detail to evaluate the reason for the refusal suggest bad faith.
Putting aside the detailed claims and counterclaims of each branch regarding each information request in Congress’s investigation of the Operation Fast and Furious scandal, it is incumbent on the Administration to respond with more particularity with respect to all of the outstanding documents and information requests. It is clear that Congress does have several important legislative purposes for its investigation, and the particular facts of the Operation Fast and Furious scandal (both in its operation and in the misstatements to Congress) provide strong justification for Congress to secure the information. Either the executive branch should produce relevant documents or the President should invoke executive privilege as to the portions of them that he can legitimately withhold.
Documents for Which a Claim of Executive Privilege Has Been Asserted. Although the President has now asserted executive privilege with respect to documents created after February 4, DOJ has not produced a privilege log delineating with particularity why the allegedly privileged documents are being withheld. Such a document could serve as a basis for negotiation and compromise with the committee and, failing that, would provide the committee with sufficient information to test the validity of the privilege claim in a court of law.
OBAMA LOSE 2012

Gainesville, FL

#767738 Oct 11, 2012
Historically, challenges to executive privilege rarely reach the courts. The vast majority of disputes over access to information have been resolved through political negotiations. While reviewing courts have expressed reluctance to balance claims of executive privilege against a congressional demand for information, they have acknowledged that they will do so if the political branches have tried in good faith but have failed to reach an accommodation. The President has denied having personally authorized Operation Fast and Furious, but that does not mean that his invocation of executive privilege with respect to the documents that are being withheld is necessarily improper, because there are several species of executive privilege.
Starting with George Washington, Presidents have occasionally asserted a right to preserve the confidentiality of documents and other information in their possession when faced with legislative demands for such records; however, it was not until United States v. Nixon (1974), that the Supreme Court determined that there was a constitutional basis for an assertion of executive privilege grounded in “the supremacy of each branch within its own assigned area of constitutional duties” and in the separation of powers. The Nixon Court recognized the importance of the President’s receiving candid advice and that “[h]uman experience teaches that those who expect public dissemination of their remarks may well temper candor with the concern for appearances and for their own interests to the detriment of the decisionmaking process.”[33]
Although a President’s communications with his close advisers were considered “presumptively privileged,” the Court rejected the contention that the privilege was absolute and unreviewable. In that case, the Court held that President Nixon’s assertion of a generalized need for confidentiality could not be used to shield wrongdoing and had to yield to the Watergate Special Prosecutor’s need for audiotapes of Oval Office conversations that the President had with his colleagues in connection with criminal charges that had been brought against members of the President’s Administration.
The general principle that executive privilege cannot be used to shield wrongdoing may well be at issue in the Operation Fast and Furious investigation, especially since misstatements were made to Congress and not corrected for many months. In short, Congress has a right to probe the President’s rather broad and imprecise claim of privilege.
Cases after the Watergate era have distinguished between the “presidential communications privilege” and the “deliberative process privilege.” Both are forms of executive privilege designed to protect the confidentiality of executive branch decision making and must be asserted by the President, but they are not equal in their breadth or strength.
The presidential communications privilege, which requires a high showing of need by Congress or the courts to overcome, applies only to direct decision making by the President and covers communications made or received by the President or by presidential advisers in the course of preparing advice for the President—even if those communications are not made directly to him. Recognizing the danger to open government if the privilege were to be extended too broadly, the D.C. Circuit in In re Sealed Case (Espy) stated:
Not every person who plays a role in the development of presidential advice, no matter how remote and removed from the President, can qualify for the privilege. In particular, the privilege should not extend to staff outside the White House in executive branch agencies…. Only communications at that level are close enough to the President to be revelatory of his deliberations or to pose a risk to the candor of his advisers.[34]
The privilege has been limited largely to those White House staff members in “operational proximity” to direct presidential decision making.
Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767739 Oct 11, 2012
OBAMA LOSE 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>Say that when you lose your job!!It is the SOS Obama can to no wrong??
Employment has risen steadily under President Obama.
OBAMA LOSE 2012

Gainesville, FL

#767740 Oct 11, 2012
Although difficult to discern, it does not appear as though President Obama is relying upon this privilege with respect to the Operation Fast and Furious documents, or at least not many of them.
The deliberative process privilege, on the other hand, is rooted in the common law and applies to decision making by executive officials other than the President. This more limited privilege, which requires less of a showing of need to overcome, allows the government to withhold “advisory opinions, recommendations and deliberations comprising part of a process by which governmental decisions and policies are formulated.”[35] It is this privilege upon which the President appears to be relying with respect to the Operation Fast and Furious documents.
In Espy, the D.C. Circuit recognized that, with respect to both privileges:
[C]ourts must balance the public interests at stake in determining whether the privilege should yield in a particular case, and must specifically consider the need of the party seeking privileged evidence. But this balancing is more ad hoc in the context of the deliberative process privilege, and includes consideration of additional factors such as whether the government is a party to the litigation. Moreover, the privilege disappears altogether when there is any reason to believe government misconduct occurred. On the other hand, a party seeking to overcome the presidential privilege seemingly must always provide a focused demonstration of need, even when there are allegations of misconduct by high-level officials.[36]
“The deliberative process privilege,” the Espy court further stated,“does not shield documents that simply state or explain a decision the government has already made or protect material that is purely factual, unless the material is so inextricably intertwined with the deliberative sections of documents that its disclosure would inevitably reveal the government's deliberations.”[37] Moreover,“where there is reason to believe the documents sought may shed light on government misconduct, the privilege is routinely denied, on the grounds that shielding internal government deliberations in this context does not serve the public’s interest in honest, effective government.”[38]
In 2007, the House Committee on the Judiciary initiated an investigation after DOJ requested and received the resignations of nine U.S. Attorneys. The White House offered to produce communications between presidential advisers and DOJ, but the committee insisted on the production of purely internal White House communications, which strike closer to the core of the President’s express constitutional powers and are entitled to greater deference than the documents being sought in the Operation Fast and Furious investigation. When the White House refused to comply, the House voted to hold White House Counsel Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolton in contempt.[39]
That case involved a congressional investigation into whether the President acted properly in asking for the resignations of individuals who were politically appointed executive branch employees pursuant to a power vested exclusively in the President under the Appointments Clause in the Constitution. The current investigation, on the other hand, involves the death of a federal agent, the deaths of scores of Mexican citizens, over 2,000 weapons “walking” into Mexico without the Mexican government’s knowledge, and potential retaliation against individuals assisting Congress’s investigation—all clearly matters of congressional concern.
In the investigation surrounding the dismissal of the U.S. Attorneys, the President and Congress eventually reached an acceptable compromise in which the committee was permitted to review all of the subpoenaed documents with “the exception of 4 pages of particularly sensitive privileged material” that were described to committee staff.[40] The President waived executive privilege with respect to the remainder of the documents.
OBAMA LOSE 2012

Gainesville, FL

#767741 Oct 11, 2012
Where There Is Smoke…

Given the significance of Congress’s inquiry, the President should waive the privilege unless the communications in question were directly to, or came directly from, him. Avoiding the disclosure of factual and potentially embarrassing information or wrongdoing is not a sufficient reason to withhold information from Congress.

Whether this is what the Administration is attempting to do or whether the President’s invocation of executive privilege is proper with respect to the Operation Fast and Furious documents cannot be determined because of the Administration’s failure to provide detailed and specific information about the documents. Usually, however, where there’s smoke there’s fire, and the American people and the families of Brian Terry and the other victims of Operation Fast and Furious deserve answers.

—John G. Malcolm is a Senior Legal Fellow in the Center for Legal & Judicial Studies at The Heritage Foundation.
Are You Kidding

Frankfort, KY

#767742 Oct 11, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>He didn't plead for more security. He wanted less American security because he believed the Libyan security in Tripoli was adequate. He traveled to Benghazi from Tripoli without Washington's knowledge. The State department would surely have advised against it had they known.
Says Ambassador Stevens Wanted His Team to Stay in Libya Past August

U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens wanted a Security Support Team, made up of 16 special operations soldiers, to stay with him in Libya after their deployment was scheduled to end in August, the commander of that security team told ABC News.
OBAMA LOSE 2012

Gainesville, FL

#767744 Oct 11, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>Employment has risen steadily under President Obama.
Obama tells lies and the media report them
Published: October 6, 2012

When will the media honestly report the news? Except for Fox News and talk radio, everyone is on the Obama bandwagon. You can include NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS and most newspapers. Obama tells lies and the media dutifully report them.

A prime example of media bias was the report of Mitt Romney's speech in which he stated that as far as the election was concerned he could discount about 47 percent of Americans. He explained further that all the entitlements many of these groups receive would make them hesitant to vote for him. He never said he didn't care about their welfare. Romney's life has been one of service and giving. Because of his wealth (honestly earned) he believes he has a responsibility to help others. Unlike our president, Mitt Romney is a deeply religious man who does not lie. In contrast, President Obama has been spouting lies and distortions since his first campaign in 2008.

For example, the falsehoods concerning Obamacare are many. We were told Obamacare will not raise taxes, there will be no rationing of care, you will keep your old insurance if you want to, and there will be no Medicare cuts to fund this plan. All lies.

The latest series of lies put forth by President Obama and his stooge, Jay Carney, about the death of our Libyan ambassador and three other Americans is unbelievable. Their claim that a movie criticizing Mohammed was the reason for the assault is a lie. President Obama had the audacity to state this at the United Nations. The Libyan prime minister told a completely different story - the truth! Our intelligence services and the Libyan Prime Minister said this attack on our embassy, and subsequently other American embassies throughout the Mid-east were premeditated.

While the Mideast continues to burn and our flag is defiled, our commander-in-chief is doing television appearances with Jay-Z, Beyonce, Letterman, and the View. This very busy schedule left him no time to meet with our Israeli allies to discuss the crises in the Mideast. President Obama has his priorities. Unfortunately they do not include keeping America safe.

Since President Obama is in office, gas, food prices, and energy prices have risen steadily. President Obama nixed the Keystone Pipeline but has assisted Brazil and others to drill and finance their energy projects. Coal mines in Virginia and Pennsylvania are closing as you read this while our national debt rises by billions every day.
Obama is a joke

Emmaus, PA

#767745 Oct 11, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>Employment has risen steadily under President Obama.
So has the number of people needing welfare.
Obama is a joke

Emmaus, PA

#767747 Oct 11, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
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So has the number of people needing welfare.
So has the number of people who have given up looking for a job.
Obama is a joke

Emmaus, PA

#767748 Oct 11, 2012
So has the number of underemployed.
Obama is a joke

Emmaus, PA

#767749 Oct 11, 2012
So has the number of people who lost their fulltime jobs and their health insurance.
Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767750 Oct 11, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
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So has the number of people needing welfare.
Because of President Obama's brilliant leadership, he will be re-elected by a landslide in November, possibly by the biggest margin in American history.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 - FOUR MORE GREAT YEARS!!
Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767751 Oct 11, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
So has the number of people who lost their fulltime jobs and their health insurance.
Because of President Obama's brilliant leadership, he will be re-elected by a landslide in November, possibly by the biggest margin in American history.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 - FOUR MORE GREAT YEARS!!
Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767752 Oct 11, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
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So has the number of people who have given up looking for a job.
Because of President Obama's brilliant leadership, he will be re-elected by a landslide in November, possibly by the biggest margin in American history.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 - FOUR MORE GREAT YEARS!!
Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767753 Oct 11, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
So has the number of underemployed.
Because of President Obama's brilliant leadership, he will be re-elected by a landslide in November, possibly by the biggest margin in American history.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 - FOUR MORE GREAT YEARS!!
Obama 2012

Virginia Beach, VA

#767755 Oct 11, 2012
Obama is a joke wrote:
So has the number of people who lost their fulltime jobs and their health insurance.
A vast majority of people who lose their jobs lose them due to poor work ethic, incompetence, laziness or all three. More and more of today's businesses are replacing the "deadwood" with more efficient, competent employees. Most people who lose their jobs have nobody to blame but themselves.
OBAMA LOSE 2012

Gainesville, FL

#767756 Oct 11, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
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Because of Romney brilliant leadership, he will be re-elected by a landslide in November, possibly by the biggest margin in American history.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 - FOUR MORE GREAT YEARS!!
NOW YOU GET IT!!!
4 Dead 2 Navy Seals

United States

#767757 Oct 11, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
Due to the new employment numbers, President Obama is surging in the polls.
He is surging in the UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS!

He is doing a great job with FOOD STAMPS TOO!There are 17 million more recipients on welfare with Obama than ever!

NO MORE EXCUSES!
PDUPONT

Chester, MA

#767758 Oct 11, 2012
carol wrote:
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It's amazing how religious you liberals become right before an election.
It's one thing to be a hypocrite - which most liberals are - and another thing to be easily fooled - which most liberals are.
Actually, there's no difference when it comes to most liberals. Take you, for example.
How dare you of all people judge someone else's religious beliefs. I'm a liberal and proud of it and an active church member my whole life. Jesus was a liberal Carol and his message was social justice something people like you seem to forget. You've constantly denigrated the poor and the only reason you'd give them a cent is so that you can feel smug and superior to them. You've defended unnecessary war and torture. You've backed a serial adulterer like Newt Gingrich and a sexual harasser and adulterer like Herman Cain and now you're shilling for two of the worst liars ever to run for office; Mendacious Mitt and Lyin' Ryan and you've told your share of lies yourself. By the way Carol, Romney just announced he wouldn't do anything to restrict the availability of abortion. He just threw you and your ilk under the bus. How's the view from under there? I know atheists who are more Christian than you are.

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