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#21 Sep 19, 2012
THANK YOU!

Since: Jun 09

Madison, WI

#22 Sep 19, 2012
Another stat worth considering:

The turnout among the lowest 20% of earners is about 36%, as opposed to 63% for the highest 20%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout#So...

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#23 Sep 19, 2012
Major elections should be a national holiday here, like in most other countries, so people could more easily vote. THere are employers who illegally refuse to let their employees have a couple of hours (or come in late or leave early) off to go vote.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#24 Sep 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Major elections should be a national holiday here, like in most other countries, so people could more easily vote. THere are employers who illegally refuse to let their employees have a couple of hours (or come in late or leave early) off to go vote.
And in the meantime, those of us with jobs should get to be first in line when the polls open and all the oldsters with nothing else to do for the rest of the day should have to wait. Grrr....

(of course I'm not actually advocating such legislation... just venting)

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#25 Sep 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Major elections should be a national holiday here, like in most other countries, so people could more easily vote. THere are employers who illegally refuse to let their employees have a couple of hours (or come in late or leave early) off to go vote.
I agree, even though I usually do so after work.

It's nice to know my vote will count this year, with NC being a battle ground state too.

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#26 Sep 19, 2012
j_m_w wrote:
<quoted text>
And in the meantime, those of us with jobs should get to be first in line when the polls open and all the oldsters with nothing else to do for the rest of the day should have to wait. Grrr....
(of course I'm not actually advocating such legislation... just venting)
Heh I'm with you! I also feel that way about the gym! When I belonged to the Y, I'd get there at 5:30 a.m.(opening time) and find a bunch of old retired people already on the machines. Turns out,t hey open the doors lke 15 minutes early when there are people waiting. So I showed up at 5:15 the next morning and there was a frickin' LINE. Almost all of them were retired people. I understand being an early bird (I am) and wanting to get your day going, but geez, there were mornings where I couldn't even get on a type of machine because they were all taken by old people moving slowly and reading the paper.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#27 Sep 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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I agree, even though I usually do so after work.
It's nice to know my vote will count this year, with NC being a battle ground state too.
It looks like WI is actually in play! What a knock for Ryan.

What do you say you and I volunteer to ring doorbells togethr in WI and see who is more persuasive.

Then we can ask Cycle to sweep up the pieces.
boundary painter

San Antonio, TX

#28 Sep 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Oops, boundary, nice idea but wrong idea. This thread is for political fights! Honest injun!
okay, thanks for clarifying.

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#29 Sep 19, 2012
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>It looks like WI is actually in play! What a knock for Ryan.

What do you say you and I volunteer to ring doorbells togethr in WI and see who is more persuasive.

Then we can ask Cycle to sweep up the pieces.
Lol!

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#30 Sep 19, 2012
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>It looks like WI is actually in play! What a knock for Ryan.

What do you say you and I volunteer to ring doorbells togethr in WI and see who is more persuasive.

Then we can ask Cycle to sweep up the pieces.
I may be mistaken, but I think it was squarely in the dem camp before he was nominated.

“...,to wit”

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#31 Sep 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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I may be mistaken, but I think it was squarely in the dem camp before he was nominated.
I don't think so. Their governor, Scott Walker, a tea party Republican, tried some heavy handed maneuvers against public unions last year. There was a well publicized recall vote and Walker kept his job

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#32 Sep 20, 2012
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think so. Their governor, Scott Walker, a tea party Republican, tried some heavy handed maneuvers against public unions last year. There was a well publicized recall vote and Walker kept his job
When Ryan was selected, I remember reading that his selection will probably put Wisconsin into play. It turns out that Obama was ahead by 6 points before Ryan was selected:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Presid...

So, that it is now a battle ground state, isn't such an embarrassment. I don't think anyone expected his selection to make the state completely in the red camp. I don't think that is a knock on him

I wasn't very impressed with his speaking abilities, however. His was the only speeches I watched out of both conventions and that's just cause it happened to be on tv. I think all they do is blow smoke up, you know where, during those conventions. So I don't bother watching them.

Since: Jun 09

Madison, WI

#33 Sep 20, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text>
When Ryan was selected, I remember reading that his selection will probably put Wisconsin into play. It turns out that Obama was ahead by 6 points before Ryan was selected:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Presid...
So, that it is now a battle ground state, isn't such an embarrassment. I don't think anyone expected his selection to make the state completely in the red camp. I don't think that is a knock on him
I wasn't very impressed with his speaking abilities, however. His was the only speeches I watched out of both conventions and that's just cause it happened to be on tv. I think all they do is blow smoke up, you know where, during those conventions. So I don't bother watching them.
And Obama's best quality is probably his ability to blow smoke.

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#34 Sep 20, 2012
cycle003 wrote:
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And Obama's best quality is probably his ability to blow smoke.
That's because he was smart enough to inhale. ;)

“...,to wit”

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#35 Sep 25, 2012
FWIW, the guys at coffee, including some true conservative Republicans, pretty much figure that Romny is a weak candidate and he can't win and that Obama could have been picked off by someone stronger.

Romney does better with teh donors than teh electorate.

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#36 Sep 25, 2012
PEllen wrote:
FWIW, the guys at coffee, including some true conservative Republicans, pretty much figure that Romny is a weak candidate and he can't win and that Obama could have been picked off by someone stronger.
Romney does better with teh donors than teh electorate.
I think both parties' leaders choose a weaker candidate (oh, you thought the masses chose? how adorable)(I'm saying generic "you," not "you" specificalyl, PE) to run against the incumbent president because it's such a tough election to win. Save your stronger, better candidate for when the president is done and you have a new opponent to face.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#37 Sep 25, 2012
PEllen wrote:
FWIW, the guys at coffee, including some true conservative Republicans, pretty much figure that Romny is a weak candidate and he can't win and that Obama could have been picked off by someone stronger.
Romney does better with teh donors than teh electorate.
Not agreeing or disagreeing about Romney, but who do you think is stronger?

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#38 Sep 25, 2012
j_m_w wrote:
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Not agreeing or disagreeing about Romney, but who do you think is stronger?
I think Ron Paul could have had a chance if he could have made it further in the pre-primary stuff. Minnesota Republicans and libertarians seem to favor Ron Paul quite a bit.

Our Iron Range democrats are very liberal on social issues like welfare, helping the poor, etc.-- it's their socialist roots from Norway, Sweden, and Finland. But they are rather religious (they're the Lutherans who go to church all day on Sunday and another night during the week), so they won't go like most democrats when the marriage amendment comes up for a vote this year.

I think Ron Paul appeals to more moderate Republicans who don't have such an anti-working-class bias of the very wealthy ones who run for office.

“...,to wit”

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#39 Sep 25, 2012
j_m_w wrote:
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Not agreeing or disagreeing about Romney, but who do you think is stronger?
I think Romney is teh better businessman but Obama the better politician.
I also firmly think that running a polity is not the same as running a business. One requires consensus, the other can be run by edict.

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#40 Sep 25, 2012
I don't think Romney has proven himself as a businessman. It's not like he started a business from scratch and rose to the top.

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