Sarah Palin leaving governor's post amid confusion, criticism

[Batch 37 Pain Is Good]

SharonD wrote:

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You assume that everyone who points to Gates is dismissive of elite Eastern schools. No, I'm not. First of all, I'm not the one who brought Eastern schools into the discussion: you did (post #231), by erroneously asserting that Gates quit as a frosh from Cambridge (wrong on both counts).
I'm not at all dismissive of the Eastern schools: I'm dismissive of anyone who thinks that a degree from ANY university automatically makes someone smarter than someone without one, anyone who blindly believes that a person's path of formal education tells--or is even capable of telling--is the sole measure of his or her intellectual capability and accomplishment.
Are you much younger than your photo implies? Have you never experienced college grads who can't figure their way out of a paper bag? If so, you are one extremely fortunate person.

So the schools that Palin went to were good too.

[Just Think]

The Crooks In DC wrote:

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From when Obama ran for the state senate. And please if you want a history lesson go back to school. So go and flame away.
Are you looking at the folks running now? If you are going to vote you should be. Look into what they did before. If they hold a office now, do they vote on issues and bills. What were theirs votes on the issues and bills. Did they do (or even try to do) what they said they would once in office. If they are in a non-voting office the last line means a lot more. Its not easy but, if you vote and do not take the time you're just a lazy voter. You can not get this from the MSM alone.

So...no proof, no link, no nada. Just unsubstantiated bull. That's kind of what I thought.

Carry on.

[Terri Tanna]

SharonD wrote:

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You assume that everyone who points to Gates is dismissive of elite Eastern schools. No, I'm not. First of all, I'm not the one who brought Eastern schools into the discussion: you did (post #231), by erroneously asserting that Gates quit as a frosh from Cambridge (wrong on both counts).
I'm not at all dismissive of the Eastern schools: I'm dismissive of anyone who thinks that a degree from ANY university automatically makes someone smarter than someone without one, anyone who blindly believes that a person's path of formal education tells--or is even capable of telling--is the sole measure of his or her intellectual capability and accomplishment.
Are you much younger than your photo implies? Have you never experienced college grads who can't figure their way out of a paper bag? If so, you are one extremely fortunate person.

How trivial your mind must be. Gates took a leave from Harvard (Cambridge is not not Cambridge University in England as you may believe; it is Harvard, just as Yale is customarily referred to as New Haven) following his sophomore year as I previously stated correctly.
Despite your protestations a degree from, say, Cal Tech automatically means that person is smarter than 99% of those without a degree.
Thank you for the comment about my photo. I'm quite older than the photo which is why I use it to perpetuate the image of my sexy self.
Because of the nature of my firms, everyone has three or more years of rigorous schooling beyond college. So I haven't encountered the paper bag phenomenon.

[Terri Tanna]

Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:

<quoted text>So the schools that Palin went to were good too.

Really?

[Terri Tanna]

The Crooks In DC wrote:

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Maybe you do not know it but those Eastern schools are starting to loss a little of their shine. Times are changing and not in the way the left is going to like.

You are correct. I do not know it, unless you are referring to Stanford. Can you point to any evidence?

[SharonD]

Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, experience doesn't matter today. Go apply for a job as CEO somewhere.

Are you seriously implying that Bill gates has no executive experience?

[The Crooks In DC]

Just Think wrote:

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So...no proof, no link, no nada. Just unsubstantiated bull. That's kind of what I thought.
Carry on.

Like I said if you want a history lesson go to school. If you live in Chicago and did not know this and still voted for Obama your lazy too. So go on keep being the ignorant idiot that the left love. I bet you did not know how Obama won his US senate seat or for that matter his state seat before you voted for him.

WOW you really are lazy. One Google and I found this a lot with a little reading: "Emanuel is a close friend of the president-elect, from his hometown of Chicago." Just goes to show the libs want everything handed to them. Sorry but, I'm not going back to 2004 for you.

[The Crooks In DC]

Terri Tanna wrote:

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You are correct. I do not know it, unless you are referring to Stanford. Can you point to any evidence?

Just stuff I have read. How a movement has started up over the cost of school and how little the teachers are in class. How more people are going for the area of study they want and not taking all the BS classes. I enjoyed going back to school but, it was not a four year school and it was full. You could test out of a lot classes and move on. The bigger schools did it to themselves, I looked at a few and walked away from them.

[Just Think]

The Crooks In DC wrote:

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Like I said if you want a history lesson go to school. If you live in Chicago and did not know this and still voted for Obama your lazy too. So go on keep being the ignorant idiot that the left love. I bet you did not know how Obama won his US senate seat or for that matter his state seat before you voted for him.
WOW you really are lazy. One Google and I found this a lot with a little reading: "Emanuel is a close friend of the president-elect, from his hometown of Chicago." Just goes to show the libs want everything handed to them. Sorry but, I'm not going back to 2004 for you.

I have lots of close friends, too. I don't do what they tell me to do.

You originally stated that while he was in the US Senate, Obama did what Ted Kennedy and Rahm Emanuel told him to do.

I then said that that made no sense, because Emanuel was in the House. You said you did research on the topic and knew it was true.

You have yet to provide one shred of proof that Obama, while in the US Senate, did what Rahm Emanuel told him to do.

You are, quite simply, a liar.

[Just Think]

The Crooks In DC wrote:

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Just stuff I have read. How a movement has started up over the cost of school and how little the teachers are in class. How more people are going for the area of study they want and not taking all the BS classes. I enjoyed going back to school but, it was not a four year school and it was full. You could test out of a lot classes and move on. The bigger schools did it to themselves, I looked at a few and walked away from them.

Oh, and one more thing - I'm not a liberal. I'm an independent who leans conservative. I just loathe liars like you.

[this crazy witch hunt]

Just Think wrote:

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Oh, and one more thing - I'm not a liberal. I'm an independent who leans conservative. I just loathe liars like you.

I'm so glad to see others are leaning "independent". We need more "thinkers". There are too many people who see what's wrong with our two parties and ignore the glaring troubles. Thank you for thinking.

[Terri Tanna]

The Crooks In DC wrote:

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Just stuff I have read. How a movement has started up over the cost of school and how little the teachers are in class. How more people are going for the area of study they want and not taking all the BS classes. I enjoyed going back to school but, it was not a four year school and it was full. You could test out of a lot classes and move on. The bigger schools did it to themselves, I looked at a few and walked away from them.

What are you saying that is new? There have always been cheapskates who complain that $55,000 per year is too much, or that the Nobel prizewinner only teaches one undergraduate class, or that they don't want to have to study the Greeks and Romans for their distribution requirements. I remember my father saying this and it was true (too many years ago) when I was in college and when my daughter just graduated. When your nit-picking is done, the traditional colleges remain at the top of the pecking order. Take a look at St. John's College if you want to see something different.

[SharonD]

Terri Tanna wrote:

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How trivial your mind must be. Gates took a leave from Harvard (Cambridge is not not Cambridge University in England as you may believe; it is Harvard, just as Yale is customarily referred to as New Haven) following his sophomore year as I previously stated correctly.
Despite your protestations a degree from, say, Cal Tech automatically means that person is smarter than 99% of those without a degree.
Thank you for the comment about my photo. I'm quite older than the photo which is why I use it to perpetuate the image of my sexy self.
Because of the nature of my firms, everyone has three or more years of rigorous schooling beyond college. So I haven't encountered the paper bag phenomenon.

How narrow your mind must be. Thanks for the comment about your picture? If you'd have read my post correctly, you'd realize that I thought your picture showed you to be older; I asked whether you were much younger than your picture seems to make you look!

Claiming you were right does not make it so. If your assertion that Gates left in his soph year were correct, I'd have to wonder why his official bio states that "In his junior year, Gates left Harvard to devote his energies to Microsoft." Read 'em and weep.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/billg...

Despite your protestations a degree from, say, Cal Tech says something about the person who earned the degree only. It says nothing about the relative intelligence of those who did not. Are you so dense that you don't understand the difference between intelligence (smart) and education (learned), or is it willful ignorance on your part?

Do you really assume that someone's choice to attend a "lesser" school--or none at all--is proof that he has less native intelligence than a Yalie? Is that it? Are you operating under the assumption that all smart people would necessarily attend the Ivy Leagues, therefore anyone who doesn't is not smart?

I suppose you've never encountered another human being outside your firms, and that's why you've never witnessed the paper bag display, which, by the way, is hardly a phenomenon. Maybe you should get out more, but it's your choice to lead an insular life. It's hard to believe you raised a daughter and never ran into a single person, say, at one of her activities, who was college educated yet incapable. I suppose it is possible, but again, then you've led an exceedingly charmed life.

[Terri Tanna]

SharonD wrote:

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How narrow your mind must be. Thanks for the comment about your picture? If you'd have read my post correctly, you'd realize that I thought your picture showed you to be older; I asked whether you were much younger than your picture seems to make you look!
Claiming you were right does not make it so. If your assertion that Gates left in his soph year were correct, I'd have to wonder why his official bio states that "In his junior year, Gates left Harvard to devote his energies to Microsoft." Read 'em and weep.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/billg...
Despite your protestations a degree from, say, Cal Tech says something about the person who earned the degree only. It says nothing about the relative intelligence of those who did not. Are you so dense that you don't understand the difference between intelligence (smart) and education (learned), or is it willful ignorance on your part?
Do you really assume that someone's choice to attend a "lesser" school--or none at all--is proof that he has less native intelligence than a Yalie? Is that it? Are you operating under the assumption that all smart people would necessarily attend the Ivy Leagues, therefore anyone who doesn't is not smart?
I suppose you've never encountered another human being outside your firms, and that's why you've never witnessed the paper bag display, which, by the way, is hardly a phenomenon. Maybe you should get out more, but it's your choice to lead an insular life. It's hard to believe you raised a daughter and never ran into a single person, say, at one of her activities, who was college educated yet incapable. I suppose it is possible, but again, then you've led an exceedingly charmed life.

It is not my intention to ping pong trivial items.
There certainly are any number of schools that match the traditional Ivies -- e.g., Stanford. There are many smart young people who do not go Ivy. They might go (in this area) to U. of Chicago.
As for an insular life I take public transportation to the Loop daily.
I'm not sure what your point is about college graduates who were "incapable." I can honestly say that none of my daughter's friends from high school fit into this category and, by definition, none of her college graduating class.
And my life has not been "exceedingly charmed." Although my parents were not poor, I did feel somewhat deprived because we did not have our own in-ground swimming pool with cabana like so many of the neighbors.
Oh, yes. Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard after his sophomore year (that he completed) in the second month of third year.(How much time do you waste researching things like this? Either one knows it off the top of one's head or one doesn't. Either way, who cares?)

[Terri Tanna]

SharonD wrote:

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How narrow your mind must be. Thanks for the comment about your picture? If you'd have read my post correctly, you'd realize that I thought your picture showed you to be older; I asked whether you were much younger than your picture seems to make you look!
Claiming you were right does not make it so. If your assertion that Gates left in his soph year were correct, I'd have to wonder why his official bio states that "In his junior year, Gates left Harvard to devote his energies to Microsoft." Read 'em and weep.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/billg...
Despite your protestations a degree from, say, Cal Tech says something about the person who earned the degree only. It says nothing about the relative intelligence of those who did not. Are you so dense that you don't understand the difference between intelligence (smart) and education (learned), or is it willful ignorance on your part?
Do you really assume that someone's choice to attend a "lesser" school--or none at all--is proof that he has less native intelligence than a Yalie? Is that it? Are you operating under the assumption that all smart people would necessarily attend the Ivy Leagues, therefore anyone who doesn't is not smart?
I suppose you've never encountered another human being outside your firms, and that's why you've never witnessed the paper bag display, which, by the way, is hardly a phenomenon. Maybe you should get out more, but it's your choice to lead an insular life. It's hard to believe you raised a daughter and never ran into a single person, say, at one of her activities, who was college educated yet incapable. I suppose it is possible, but again, then you've led an exceedingly charmed life.

Who cares which month Gates left Harvard. The TOPIC is Mrs. Palin and the indisputably fact that she should not be qualified for high office by reason of her lack of education. There are many, many qualified women in all three political parties.

[SharonD]

Terri Tanna wrote:

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Who cares which month Gates left Harvard. The TOPIC is Mrs. Palin and the indisputably fact that she should not be qualified for high office by reason of her lack of education. There are many, many qualified women in all three political parties.

There you go again. Saying something is indisputabl[e] doesn't make it so, no matter how persistently you repeat it.

It took about five seconds to research Gates's college attendance--just so I wouldn't be spouting off inaccuracies as fact. I guess "who cares" is what you say when you state as fact something you're not sure of.

[Lou]

Terri Tanna wrote:

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Sir, those who support Mrs. Palin are known for their focus on issues and ability to parse complex debates. They would never to stoop to name-calling or ad hominem attacks.

Oh, OK. So when you call people "Demolibs", that's not name-calling. That your vernacular indicating your higher level of sophistication and intelligence. I get it now.

[Terri Tanna]

SharonD wrote:

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There you go again. Saying something is indisputabl[e] doesn't make it so, no matter how persistently you repeat it.
It took about five seconds to research Gates's college attendance--just so I wouldn't be spouting off inaccuracies as fact. I guess "who cares" is what you say when you state as fact something you're not sure of.

Is it possible you are an elementary school teacher? Certain things are well-known, e.g., when Gates left Cambridge, so one doesn't have to waste even five seconds on a trivial factoid that is known to certainty off the top of one's head. See Post #254 -- he took a leave following his sophomore year; Post #231 -- in a position to graduate in three years; Post #243 -- one year under his belt (your statement). Be done!
The word indisputable does not have a causal relationship with Truth, but it is properly used with respect to Truth, as was done in the earlier post.
This discussion board is to analyze the confusion and criticism that Mrs. Palin created when she abdicated her solemn responsibilities as Governor of Alaska to pursue personal aggrandizement. I'm not sure how your post contributed.

[this crazy witch hunt]

Terri Tanna wrote:

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Is it possible you are an elementary school teacher? Certain things are well-known, e.g., when Gates left Cambridge, so one doesn't have to waste even five seconds on a trivial factoid that is known to certainty off the top of one's head. See Post #254 -- he took a leave following his sophomore year; Post #231 -- in a position to graduate in three years; Post #243 -- one year under his belt (your statement). Be done!
The word indisputable does not have a causal relationship with Truth, but it is properly used with respect to Truth, as was done in the earlier post.
This discussion board is to analyze the confusion and criticism that Mrs. Palin created when she abdicated her solemn responsibilities as Governor of Alaska to pursue personal aggrandizement. I'm not sure how your post contributed.

"Mrs. Palin created when she abdicated her solemn responsibilities as Governor of Alaska to pursue personal aggrandizement". This is a very good summation. Thank you for your logical insight.

[SharonD]

Terri Tanna wrote:

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Is it possible you are an elementary school teacher? Certain things are well-known, e.g., when Gates left Cambridge, so one doesn't have to waste even five seconds on a trivial factoid that is known to certainty off the top of one's head. See Post #254 -- he took a leave following his sophomore year; Post #231 -- in a position to graduate in three years; Post #243 -- one year under his belt (your statement). Be done!
The word indisputable does not have a causal relationship with Truth, but it is properly used with respect to Truth, as was done in the earlier post.
This discussion board is to analyze the confusion and criticism that Mrs. Palin created when she abdicated her solemn responsibilities as Governor of Alaska to pursue personal aggrandizement. I'm not sure how your post contributed.

If you had known "to certainty off the top of one's head," that Gates quit after having completed his sophomore year, why on earth did you he was "eligible to graduate in three years?" It would seem you expected it would take him five years to earn a 4-year degree.

Well, gee, pardon me for going off on a conversational tangent from the point of this board; it's quite obvious that you didn't do the same while merely contributing to your own self-aggrandizement.