Illinois rethinks taking driver's lic...

Illinois rethinks taking driver's licenses for traffic tickets

There are 359 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Mar 6, 2008, titled Illinois rethinks taking driver's licenses for traffic tickets. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

As if the $125 ticket wasn't bad enough, Lauren Kamm's illegal left turn onto Ashland Avenue in Chicago earned her an extra surprise: Her driver's license was confiscated.

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American Chick

United States

#48 Mar 7, 2008
They still do that when the state knows that these days you need ID more than ever.
lewis

United States

#49 Mar 7, 2008
Very good article,, very well written and hits the nail
on the head.
If you can be arrested for not having an ID and you do
not have a State ID because your driver's license is
sufficient. This law does need to be reexamined to
fit the identification laws that we are currently under
in this state.
Keep this story on the front burner as it affects
everyone. Thank you
Doug

Chicago Heights, IL

#50 Mar 7, 2008
What's all this complaining about cops taking licenses? After an encounter with a Chicago cop, just be glad if your skull is still intact.
ICE

Alsip, IL

#51 Mar 7, 2008
Delivery Guy wrote:
The article is inaccurate -- you ALWAYS have another option instead of surrendering your license: request that you be taken to the police station to post your bond.
YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THIS RIGHT, DON'T BACK DOWN.
I have invoked this option twice, and both times I was let go with a warning -- apparently it is too much trouble for a cop on quota deadline ;)-- but I was prepared and willing to be taken in. NEVER, EVER SURRENDER YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE!
Your an idiot-if you dont surrender then your right you will be going down to the station in handcuffs in the back seat of the police car! Dudd? what easier posting your drivers license or taken away like a criminal!

Since: Dec 07

zz9 plural zα

#52 Mar 7, 2008
i emailed my state senator a few years back -- pointing out the incongruity of demanding picture ID everywhere (airports, credit card transactions, etc.)

he somewhat glibly replied that, as far as he knew, we can also buy state ID cards.

he did not, thereafter, seek re-election.
When

Rochester, MI

#53 Mar 7, 2008
When will we demand that the City of Chicago and King Richard stop taking our hard earned cash just so they can hire their friends and support their pet projects? I would rather have my liscense taken than to be slowly bled of my hard earned cash. The people of Chicago are suffering a the calssic "death by a thousand cuts", yet the "people" will continue to vote these criminals into office. Just look at the Obama phenomenon.
Come on

Wheaton, IL

#54 Mar 7, 2008
curveball wrote:
tough love! thats what i say. there are too too many idots out there that can't drive and shouldn't have a license to begin with. don't jump one me for my comments, i have been driving for 34 yrs and never had an accident and also have never had a ticket! so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
So, YOU'RE the one doing 54 in the left lane? Thanks, gramps, but the rest of us actually have places to get to.
Delivery Guy

Chicago, IL

#55 Mar 7, 2008
ICE wrote:
<quoted text> Your an idiot-if you dont surrender then your right you will be going down to the station in handcuffs in the back seat of the police car! Dudd? what easier posting your drivers license or taken away like a criminal!

You didn't read for comprehension, pal -- both times when I insisted on posting bond at the station, the cop decided to let me go! He decided it wasn't worth the trouble, as it would have taken him off the street for at least an hour.
Delivery Guy

Chicago, IL

#56 Mar 7, 2008
Chicago wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah right, it's not any extra work for the cop to take you into the station. In fact, it's no big deal AT ALL. BTW, there is no quota.
No quota, eh? LOL! You are either *extremely* naive, or a cop who is lying through his teeth. Which are you?
MJL

Ventura, CA

#57 Mar 7, 2008
I was stopped for a headlight being out. The officer took my license. He said it was, "his discretion". He could see I had a perfect driving record. It was in Dec. in a burb that has hundreds of lighted reindeeer and I think the town wanted to generate some revenue to pay for the electricity.
Tyrone

Hillside, IL

#58 Mar 7, 2008
James Reyes wrote:
Just give drivers a free state i.d. when they receive their driver's licenses .
James James James...Don't you see the MAJOR flaw in your idea?

This is Illinois !!!
YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING FREE
rwilymz

Belleville, IL

#59 Mar 7, 2008
Not only is it burdensome for all the reasons mentioned, it's also a means of granting police officers [agents of the executive branch] the authorities of the judicial branch to adjudicate guilt.

Ain't their job. And for the legislature to give them the authority would seem to run afoul of the Separation of Powers provisions in all the constitutions which apply in Illinois.

If the cop thinks you broke the law, then he is give you a summons [ticket] to appear in court so that you and he can make arguments before the judge who assesses guilt or not and, if guilty, THE JUDGE assigns a punishment. That's why there are three parts to the government.

Instead, the IL legislature passed a law giving cops the authority to not only accuse you of breaking the law, but also a means to compel you to admit guilt to the cop/judge and accept a default punishment.

All because it's more important for IL to get your secondary-taxation traffic fines than follow the rules.
VATSI

Frankfort, IL

#60 Mar 7, 2008
Amazing. This state is clearly one of the most messed up states in the country. Only California is worse. I used to think that the people in IL were good people. I guess I was wrong. From the idiots that run Cook county to nut cakes who can't seem to find a ounce of common sense. In New Lenox, we have 3 police officers (speed traps) for every resident. IL is nothing more than a tax haven and police state.
Mike

Chicago, IL

#61 Mar 7, 2008
I never understood why Illinois maintained such a backwood, antiquated, illogical rule- but then Blago and Todd Jr. got elected and now I know
Urban Mother

South Holland, IL

#62 Mar 7, 2008
It's about time they got rid of this totally antiquated method! I lost my license to a speeding ticket the day before I flew to Florida on vacation. My passport got me through airport security, but did nothing to help me pick up my rental car. Rental car agencies, unlike the great state of Illinois, do not recognize tickets as valid licenses! Update the law to reflect today's societal needs, please!
Yes its correct

Chennai, India

#63 Mar 7, 2008
Yeah I totally agree.
Retired Officer

Tinley Park, IL

#64 Mar 7, 2008
First and foremost, if motorists would obey the traffic laws, they would not have to worry about having their drivers license taken.
The drivers license is the property of the State of Illinois, not the individuals. The office of the Secretary of Stae does also issue a State of Illinois Identification Card, which someone may obtain in order to carry a piece of state issued idetification.
Illinois tried in the mid 1980's a system whereby the motorist would sign for their violation. This was when Illinois first joined the multi state pact. This signature was also a promise to comply with the terms of issuance of the citation: that the motorist would would arrange to appear in court or pay the citation. This did not work and too many Illinois moptorists were getting their drivers licenses' suspended because the motorist failed to to due what was expected of them. Taking the drivers license is a way of getting the motorist to do what they are supposed to do.
The only motorists in Illinois that can currently sign for tickets are thoise from out of state and whose home state is a signer of the multi-state compact, and not every state is.
keith smedger

Aurora, IL

#65 Mar 7, 2008
How is this article considered 'news'?
Urban Mother

South Holland, IL

#66 Mar 7, 2008
Oh, and the rental car agency also told me that the state of FLorida does not recognize a ticket as a valid license. What about other states?
Sasha Cohenbread

Niles, IL

#67 Mar 7, 2008
curveball wrote:
learn how to drive and you won't have to worry about anyone taking your license!
I hope you get a ticket...soon. I was at a traffic signal, the signal light was red. I am stopped at the light. And waited for my signal to turn green. There was Chicago Police officer parked on the other side of the intersection, sitting in a parking lot. I see the police car because I am stopped at a red light. The light turned green. I proceeded to go through the intersection, as soon as I passed the officer. her lights went on. I pulled over thinking she was responding to an emergency, since I had already seen her car across the street and I was stopped at a red light. I pull over, she pulls behind me, gets out and says you were going over the speed limit. I inform the officer that I just came from the intersection and the light had turned green, she states that I went through the intersection too fast. I state to the officer my speed was less than 15 miles per hour, she states that is was 20. She issues a citation and takes my license, informing me that I can protest the ticket. Which came at the worst time because I was closing on a property in a week. I protested the ticket and went to court. The judge at traffic court stated to all defendents that if you did not have adeqaute evidence you were guilty. I had taken pictures of the intersection, taken pictures of where I was stopped. But from the judge's statement and the fact the she indicated that pictures were worthless, I paid the fine. She then proceeded to ask the clerk to pull up my driving record, because I plead guilty. To her surprise I had never had a moving violation or accident.
So keep your judgemental comments to yourself, always believing your opinion is right. Not everyone is a poor driver.

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