Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

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#41 Apr 29, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Would you people listen to yourselves? Telling her she can't go to the same college as her boyfriend isn't gonna make her run off and marry him. Sheesh.
It might. It might not.

The thing, Edog, is children are not an extension of the parents. They are human beings individually. That does not mean they do whatever the heck they want. It does mean that respect needs to go two ways.

“Where is Tonka?”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#42 Apr 29, 2013
Thats an impossible stretch. We dont know the dudes history other than there WERE VIOLENT INCIDENTS!

A mother refusing to place her child in the care or proximity of a person she personally knows to be violent, is not the same as the govt trying to ban weapons.

A felon is prohibited from purchasing a firearm, WHY? Because their history has proven them to potentially misuse the firearm. If they had a weapon does that mean they will hold up a gas station, NO, but they did in the past, so its probably not a good idea to let them have another one.
edogxxx wrote:
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Yes. "Potentially dangerous home environment?" You sound as paranoid as the daughter. Does dude have history of beating up on three year olds? This is about manipulation and control, concealed under the guise of her child's "safety."
Your elected officials want to ban guns for this very same reason. You buying into it?

Since: Jan 10

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#43 Apr 29, 2013
I remember years ago, Dear Abby actually posed the question to her readers: If your parents tried to keep you from dating someone, what did you do? She got tons of letters from grown adults, telling her about how being forbidden to see the boy/man they loved just brought them closer together. "It's you and me against the world," that sort of thing. Many wrote of early marriages and early divorces (all too often, after kids had entered the picture).

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#44 Apr 29, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Tell an 18yo she can't do something, and she's going to do it just to prove you wrong.
I agree.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Tell her she has to go to a different school than her boyfriend, she'll make SURE she goes to his school, even without your financial support.
Do you really think this would be the norm? That a kid would forego having college paid for by mom and dad over a HS bf/gf? No way in hell do I see that as the most likely course of action.

“Where is Tonka?”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#46 Apr 29, 2013
You need to start slacking at work Mr Tonka and start posting during the day.
Mister Tonka wrote:
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I agree.
<quoted text>Do you really think this would be the norm? That a kid would forego having college paid for by mom and dad over a HS bf/gf? No way in hell do I see that as the most likely course of action.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#47 Apr 29, 2013
RACE wrote:
You need to start slacking at work Mr Tonka and start posting during the day.
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Can't. Web filtering blocks topix. I can slack off with my phone, but I have a small data plan, so I hop on at lunch when I'm at a restaurant with free wifi. Tried posting today from Moe's but topix site went down for a bit.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#48 Apr 29, 2013
RACE wrote:
and can any of you say that a violent bipolar person should be unsupervised around a 3yr old?
Who's saying anything about him caring for or being unsupervised with the kid?? No one. She doesn't even want him at family gatherings. Quite a stretch to use the "I'm afraid for my kid" excuse.

Since: Jan 10

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#49 Apr 29, 2013
I think she figures, he went after ME, his own sister, which means he'll go after ANYBODY.

“Where is Tonka?”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#50 Apr 30, 2013
So fix it! Easy-Peasy.
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> Can't. Web filtering blocks topix. I can slack off with my phone, but I have a small data plan, so I hop on at lunch when I'm at a restaurant with free wifi. Tried posting today from Moe's but topix site went down for a bit.

“Where is Tonka?”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#51 Apr 30, 2013
Comprehension fail,
Kids safety is why she wont let the child stay overnight.
Brothers violence is why he is not invited to her house.

Please try and keep up.

edogxxx wrote:
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Who's saying anything about him caring for or being unsupervised with the kid?? No one. She doesn't even want him at family gatherings. Quite a stretch to use the "I'm afraid for my kid" excuse.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Lawrence, MA

#52 Apr 30, 2013
RACE wrote:
Comprehension fail,
Kids safety is why she wont let the child stay overnight.
Brothers violence is why he is not invited to her house.
Please try and keep up.
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It has nothing to do with his violence or the child's safety and has everything to do with her immature grudge and manipulation.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Lawrence, MA

#53 Apr 30, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
I think she figures, he went after ME, his own sister, which means he'll go after ANYBODY.
She's an idiot to assume that.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#54 Apr 30, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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She's an idiot to assume that.
There are many mentally ill people who are not violent. This particular person has shown he can be violent. Protecting your children should be the number one priority in dealing with your family. I don't think it's an overreaction. I think it's a smart use of caution.

So, do you think she should just try it out and wait for something to happen? That's just stupid.

“Where is Tonka?”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#55 Apr 30, 2013
right, just 'cause your GF went batsheit crazy and threw a chair at you does not mean she would do it to someone else.
edogxxx wrote:
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She's an idiot to assume that.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#56 Apr 30, 2013
Toj wrote:
Protecting your children should be the number one priority in dealing with your family. I don't think it's an overreaction. I think it's a smart use of caution.
For the fifth time, this has NOTHING to do with the safety of her child, whom we all know is in no danger of anything at all, and has EVERYTHING to do with manipulation and control. How many times is the "Safety of children, won't someone PLEASE think of the children!??" excuse used as a social control tool?
Guns, BANNED for the safety of the children!
Smoking, BANNED for the safety of the children!!
Sacked school lunches BANNED for the safety of the children!!!
On and on.
Are you people STILL buying into the whole "we must do it for the children" excuse?? Madness. Wake up, wise up, get a dam clue.

Since: Jan 10

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#57 Apr 30, 2013
For all we know, brother PUNCHED her in the FACE. I'd write him out of my life permanently for that as well.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#58 Apr 30, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
For all we know, brother PUNCHED her in the FACE.
For all we know, he THREW her teddy bear across the ROOM. She said "he became violent," she didn't say "he became physically abusive." If there were a little more specifics, I might be able to understand where the sister is coming from. But from what I'm hearing, she's holding a grudge from a "violent episode" (whatever THAT is) that happened YEARS ago, and is now trying to dictate and control the actions of the entire family all these years later. NO ONE ELSE has a problem with this man except ONE person. Now, what do we normally think when ONE person has a problem with someone, but no one else does? The entire world is against this person? Or this person is being unreasonable?

Since: Jan 10

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#59 May 1, 2013
edog, you don't know that she's the only one with a problem with him. There is nothing in the letter to indicate that. And violence is physical. Duh.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

United States

#60 May 1, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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For all we know, he THREW her teddy bear across the ROOM. She said "he became violent," she didn't say "he became physically abusive." If there were a little more specifics, I might be able to understand where the sister is coming from. But from what I'm hearing, she's holding a grudge from a "violent episode" (whatever THAT is) that happened YEARS ago, and is now trying to dictate and control the actions of the entire family all these years later. NO ONE ELSE has a problem with this man except ONE person. Now, what do we normally think when ONE person has a problem with someone, but no one else does? The entire world is against this person? Or this person is being unreasonable?
It really is amusing to watch how you flip-flop between being very literal and being interpretive as it suits you in a particular situation.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#61 May 1, 2013
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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It really is amusing to watch how you flip-flop between being very literal and being interpretive as it suits you in a particular situation.
Please elaborate and explain....

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