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Since: Jan 13

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#1 May 23, 2013
DEAR AMY: My 18-year-old daughter “Emily” was hanging out and drinking in her friend “Laura’s” dorm room before heading out downtown.(I’ve already given the underage drinking speech many times.)

They all went to another room, and then Emily went back to Laura’s room to get her purse. She saw a bottle of unused Champagne and started to put it in Laura’s fridge when it opened and sprayed the floor.
Unfortunately Laura’s laptop was on the floor. Emily moved it onto a chair and wiped down whatever liquid was on the case and continued to clean the room. She says it was dry when she left. She met up with Laura and told her what had happened and that she had moved her computer out of the way.

The next morning the computer did not turn on. Emily felt terrible. The following day Laura took the case off, and the computer was wet. She then went to a computer tech, and he quoted $850 to fix it. Laura wants Emily to pay. Laura did not have an accidental coverage warranty.

Emily has $200 left over from her savings for school and offered it to Laura, but she refused to take it. Laura wants Emily to give her money from her summer job.

I feel it was an accident. I wonder why Laura didn’t have a better warranty on it and why was a new computer on the floor? Is Emily responsible for the $850?-- Mom

DEAR MOM: It was an accident. Accidents happen. But people still have to be responsible for the consequences when property is damaged because of accidents they caused.

It is not for you to second-guess the warranty choices “Laura” made when she purchased this computer. Nor is it appropriate for you to blame Laura for leaving her laptop on the floor in her room.

You might point out to “Emily” that one consequence of her choice to drink before she is mature enough (or legal enough) is that she literally cannot hold her Champagne. Your daughter owes her friend $850.

DEAR AMY: I’ve been divorced for four years. My daughter chose to stay with me. Her friends and her school were here; she is also closer to me than her mother. She is 18 now and away at college.

She has had a close friend for three years. This friend attends college here in town. Her friend and I enjoy each other’s company. The girl just turned 18 too. My daughter suggested that I ask her friend out and said that her friend would say yes.

I said,“You’re my daughter, and she’s your friend. Wouldn’t that be weird for you?” My daughter laughed and said that she can handle it. She is mature for her age.

I’m 44 years old. I like the girl, and I certainly find her attractive. Is she off-limits?-- Divorced Dad

DEAR DAD: Yes, she is off-limits. Now that your daughter is in college, you and she should develop separate orbits where you can each grow and change and have differentiated private lives.

In addition to the yuck factor built into this cozy triangle, I believe that every 18-year-old should be off-limits to dating a 44-year-old. But that’s me.(I can’t imagine dating someone who thinks Mark Wahlberg is just another old guy.)

When Woody Allen dated a 17-year-old in the movie “Manhattan,” he mused about his situation:“I’m dating a girl wherein I could beat up her father.”(Allen’s own personal relationship choices created terminal problems in his own family). The extreme age difference isn’t necessarily morally wrong, it’s just terminally dumb.

DEAR AMY: The woman who signed her letter “Tired,” asked “Is this all there is?”

She might try looking outside herself. My parents are in their 80s. They drive for Meals on Wheels, sponsor refugees in their church, lead the Crop Walk to raise money for needy people and more. They never ask “is this all there is?” because they are too busy helping others.-- Giving Back

DEAR GIVING BACK: Many readers suggested this. However,“Tired” was leading an extremely exhausting, depleting life. My suggestion was that if she took better care of herself, she might have something left — and then she would have something to gi

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#2 May 23, 2013
#2 sounds like a set up for a p*rno book or movie where the "dad" verifies the girl has turned 18 before the fun begins.

Since: Jan 10

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#3 May 23, 2013
L1: You daughter is lying. CHampagne doesn't just "come open." Also,$850 to repair. No. Just buy a new laptop. They are cheaper than $850. I think Emily should pay.

L2: Dear lord, I hope that 18 year old "girl" laughs in your face.

L3: Your comment is stupid in light of that LW's issues.

“Where is Tonka?”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#4 May 23, 2013
1 Wrong, make her take you to small claims court, and have her admit in court that she let an underage kid drink in her dorm, further that she supplied that kid with the liquor.

2 is this dear amy or dear penthouse?
Hells yeah dude, If you can get away with it, but dont write amby when her dad breaks all your teeth.

3 Want to know what else gives back? Amby and these stupid rehashes, thats what!
Stina

Saint Petersburg, FL

#5 May 23, 2013
LW1: I'm with Red about the champagne just opening. You can't put the cork back in it anyway. Also, you can get a laptop for WAY less that $850, so that's BS, too. Maybe RACE is right. Small claims court. See Judge Judy.

LW2 is just creepy. What a perv. At least find a girl in her 20s. Preferably one that is NOT your kid's friend.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#6 May 23, 2013
LW1: I'm with Red on the fact that champagne does not just open by itself and start spraying everywhere. Your tipsy daughter was probably trying to cram a big bottle of champagne into a tiny dorm fridge and unsealed the bottle. She might not think it, but she's totally responsible for this.

On the other hand, I like RACE's idea of small claims court and then they can all explain to the judge why they were underage drinking.

Whatever, they will stop being friends soon anyway.

LW2: I cannot believe that you are even considering this, but since you think everyone is so mature, go right ahead and try. But don't be surprised when it ends badly.

And Red, these people are all so mature that the daughter's friend will be flattered that he thinks she's so mature. <eyeroll>

LW3: I remember the original LW as a little crybaby that needed to count their blessings. Whatever, this is a tired rehash indeed.

uh oh, my number is 6666

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#7 May 23, 2013
1: I think that they should split the difference on a new laptop. For the record, if it was a Mac it could easily be more than 850.00.

Neither of them should be drinking underage, so there's that. Daughter had the champagne open, or was trying to open it and it slipped or something. Wine bottles, including champagne do not spontaneously open. If Mom believes that I have a nice bridge for sale.

Friend shouldn't have left her laptop on the floor IMO. I mean, forget wine bottles accidentally opening up all on their own, someone could have stepped on it. I know people do that all.the.time, but I think leaving a laptop on the floor is just inviting something bad to happen.

2: Ick.

3: Thank you, drive through.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#8 May 23, 2013
Stina wrote:
LW1: I'm with Red about the champagne just opening. You can't put the cork back in it anyway. Also, you can get a laptop for WAY less that $850, so that's BS, too. Maybe RACE is right. Small claims court. See Judge Judy.
LW2 is just creepy. What a perv. At least find a girl in her 20s. Preferably one that is NOT your kid's friend.
Just because you CAN get a laptop for under $850, that does not mean that HER laptop was under $850. I just bought a new laptop that was $880. I damn sure would not accept some $400 unit as a replacement for someone damaging it.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#9 May 23, 2013
Mimi wrote:
but I think leaving a laptop on the floor is just inviting something bad to happen.
unless it was stepped on, the floor is irrelevant. It could have been on the desk and drunky knocked the bottle over onto it resulting in the same damage

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#10 May 23, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>unless it was stepped on, the floor is irrelevant. It could have been on the desk and drunky knocked the bottle over onto it resulting in the same damage
True, but I have a "thing" against leaving laptops on the floor. I just *know* someone will step on it.
Stina

Saint Petersburg, FL

#11 May 23, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Just because you CAN get a laptop for under $850, that does not mean that HER laptop was under $850. I just bought a new laptop that was $880. I damn sure would not accept some $400 unit as a replacement for someone damaging it.
That's true, so she's just stupid-head for not insuring it and not taking care of it. Not that it was her fault that something got spilled on it. Of course, they shouldn't have been drinking... I think splitting the cost is reasonable.

Since: Jan 10

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#12 May 23, 2013
I've gone from "you left your laptop on the FLOOR?" to "You both should split the cost" to "you broke her laptop, you are obligated to make her whole."

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#13 May 23, 2013
Show of hands. Other than whatever coverage you had under you parents' homeowners insurance, how many of you ever took out additional insurance on any of your property while in college. This suggestion that yall are making that she should have insured the laptop is foreign to me. Hell, I've never even had renter's insurance...even after college.
Stina

Saint Petersburg, FL

#14 May 23, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Show of hands. Other than whatever coverage you had under you parents' homeowners insurance, how many of you ever took out additional insurance on any of your property while in college. This suggestion that yall are making that she should have insured the laptop is foreign to me. Hell, I've never even had renter's insurance...even after college.
Odds are the parents bought it and would have insured it.
But, as to your question, most of us didn't grow up in an age where all of these electronics were necessary, so we didn't really HAVE anything to insure. I took the chance on my $30 ghetto blaster.
Kuuipo

Marina, CA

#15 May 23, 2013
LW1: Electronics and liquids do not mix well. And I totally agree with Red; unopened bottles of champagne do not open so easily. The cork is WIRED to the top of the bottle. You remove the wire and then carefully lift off the cork, which is tightly wedged in the bottle. Drunk college girls are not likely to pull off this task elegantly. Anyway, your daughter owes her friend the cost of repair, period. If you break something, it is your responsibility to fix it.

LW2: Your kids' friends are off-limits regardless of age, IMHO. But at 44, you should not be dating teenagers, regardless. You can go younger without going barely legal. I can't believe you had to ask an advice columnist if this is OK.
Kuuipo

Marina, CA

#16 May 23, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Show of hands. Other than whatever coverage you had under you parents' homeowners insurance, how many of you ever took out additional insurance on any of your property while in college. This suggestion that yall are making that she should have insured the laptop is foreign to me. Hell, I've never even had renter's insurance...even after college.
My hand is down. I didn't have much worth insuring until I became a homeowner. Whether the girl should or should not have had better insurance is not the point. The point is that the LW's daughter damaged someone else's property. Morally, and probably legally, she is responsible for repairing or replacing it.

Since: Jan 10

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#17 May 23, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Show of hands. Other than whatever coverage you had under you parents' homeowners insurance, how many of you ever took out additional insurance on any of your property while in college. This suggestion that yall are making that she should have insured the laptop is foreign to me. Hell, I've never even had renter's insurance...even after college.
I think it's something you'd more likely get at the time of purchase, than after the fact when you go off to college. If even that. I never had renter's insurance until the last 10 years. I honestly didn't have stuff worth insuring.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#18 May 23, 2013
Kuuipo wrote:
LW1: Electronics and liquids do not mix well. And I totally agree with Red; unopened bottles of champagne do not open so easily. The cork is WIRED to the top of the bottle. You remove the wire and then carefully lift off the cork, which is tightly wedged in the bottle. Drunk college girls are not likely to pull off this task elegantly. Anyway, your daughter owes her friend the cost of repair, period. If you break something, it is your responsibility to fix it.
LW2: Your kids' friends are off-limits regardless of age, IMHO. But at 44, you should not be dating teenagers, regardless. You can go younger without going barely legal. I can't believe you had to ask an advice columnist if this is OK.
1. I agree
2. Better he asks now than teh daughter writes in upon discovering her BFF is about to be her stepmother ( yuk)
Kuuipo

Marina, CA

#19 May 23, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>
2. Better he asks now than teh daughter writes in upon discovering her BFF is about to be her stepmother ( yuk)
HA! Good one! I nearly spit coffee on my well-insured keyboard!

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Itasca, IL

#20 May 23, 2013
electronics warranties dont usually cover impact or liquid damage... some "protection plans" might, but those aer the ones that the sales people at best buy & the like push, and that one needs teh intervention of a news crew to get anything like this paid out...

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