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“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#21 Apr 7, 2014
You missed the context of how I came up with that post, but If you read Sublimes, it should become transparent.

I don't imagine you cheating, you hold the value of a relationship in too high a regard to treat it so lightly. However, I do see you as someone who is not afraid to ditch what she has and persue what she wants.
cheluzal wrote:
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Liar.
I have never cheated on anyone in my life. Not even some stupid emotional affair.
I was with lw until he said he had stuck his peen in ather. Karma is a B.
I just see no good reason for people to re-initialize comm with someone who has already been ex'd out. Let me guess: FB.

“Colorful Beyond Words”

Since: May 11

" Live, Laugh, Love "

#22 Apr 7, 2014
Sublime1 wrote:
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No guy is going to spend 10 years writing love letter emails to a woman and not be tapping that to.
It could happen.

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#23 Apr 7, 2014
Hatti_Hollerand wrote:
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It could happen.
If you really love some one and she loves you abstaining from physical contact is just ... torture. There is just too much longing.

Even Lancelot eventually ended up tapping Guinevere. True story. ;)

“Colorful Beyond Words”

Since: May 11

" Live, Laugh, Love "

#25 Apr 7, 2014
Sublime1 wrote:
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If you really love some one and she loves you abstaining from physical contact is just ... torture. There is just too much longing.
So says you . It is plausible that the two could exchange emails and pledge their love without physical contact.

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#26 Apr 7, 2014
Hatti_Hollerand wrote:
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So says you . It is plausible that the two could exchange emails and pledge their love without physical contact.
I think you watched the movie "She" one to many times, lol. You may as well have a computer girlfriend.

It’s not plausible, because he said they also talk on the phone. He has no clue what is said on the phone. I would wager the spoken word is worse than the written word, for a number of reasons, the most important being it’s just more prudent because there is no record of what is said.

There really is no logical reason why two people would risk severely hurting their SOs’ feelings by having a very strong emotional long term love affair, while at the same time ruling out any physical contact. Not only is it a form of masochism, but it’s illogical in sense that is similar to a drug dealer who sells crack, but not meth solely because he doesn't wanna get in trouble with the law. Dude is going down regardless if he gets caught.

There’s already going to be hell to pay if it’s found out. So you may as well at least get some enjoyment out of it, instead of just torturing yourselves because of the illogical belief that what you are doing is going to be well received if discovered, and only if you have physical contact, are SOs going to be hurt.

It’s been going on for 10 years too. You don’t think at some point they realized what they were doing was wrong and that taking it one step further and making it physical is a very nice benefit, with little additional downside?

Not only does logic support it happening, but it’s just basic human nature. Have you ever read a love letter from someone who has been away from their sweetie for a long time. There’s a very strong driving force to be together. It's not just sex, it's proximity too. Just being around the person.

I don't buy it.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#27 Apr 7, 2014
That is right, Sub.
It happened with Tschaikovsky and a mysterious Madame von Meck.
They never met but did exchange letters for over a decade....

"....carried on exclusively through correspondence. These letters were often passionate in their avowal of love, yet the authors never met."

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#28 Apr 7, 2014
I didn't know Tschaikovsky was gay.:p

And how do you know they never met? Did you follow them around?

If Tschaikovsky explained it like I did in post number #26 in a letter to Madame von Meck, her next letter to him would have consisted of 10 words:

What kind of panties should I wear when we meet?

LMAO

Since: Aug 08

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#30 Apr 7, 2014
HOLY SHYTE. He was gay!!! NAILED IT:

"Tchaikovsky was not normally so virulent toward any individual. His reasons for it were deeply personal. From his first mention of marriage to Modest, Tchaikovsky stressed the need for a woman who would allow him complete freedom in continuing his homosexual relations."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonina_Miliuko...

He wouldn't even have sex with his own wife:

"Things changed when Tchaikovsky returned to Moscow from Kamenka. Antonina demanded that he fulfill his marital duties in the bedroom. Tchaikovsky considered this change an act of betrayal. It sent him into despair and severely wounded his masculine pride. Out of fairness to Antonina, however, Tchaikovsky may have deceived her by the very act of marrying her while fully aware of his sexual preference. In her eyes, it may have been he who continued to humiliate her by refusing to have sex with her."

Dr. Phil doesn't have shyte on me!

Since: Aug 08

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#31 Apr 7, 2014
Sorry to ruin your Harlequin fantasy LC by pointing out the guy was gay.

Being a man, I think I know a little bit more how straight (as in non-gay) males think and act.

We aren't just sex driven, but if we are in love with a woman, we want to be with her. You'd go to the ends of the earth. It would take an incredibly odd bird or a gay dude to not want that form of intimacy.

“Colorful Beyond Words”

Since: May 11

" Live, Laugh, Love "

#32 Apr 7, 2014
You don't have to "buy it" Sublime .... Even though you can't see it .... Or deny its ability to occur .... The fact is ... It is plausible. End of story :)
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#33 Apr 7, 2014
RACE wrote:
However, I do see you as someone who is not afraid to ditch what she has and persue what she wants.
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But not whilst in a relationship.
I don't go fishing when I have a fish in the boat.
Never had feelings for another when dating one. My emotions are fiercely monogamous.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#34 Apr 7, 2014
And I don't persue guys.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#35 Apr 7, 2014
*pursue

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#36 Apr 7, 2014
Sublime1 wrote:
Sorry to ruin your Harlequin fantasy LC by pointing out the guy was gay.
Being a man, I think I know a little bit more how straight (as in non-gay) males think and act.
We aren't just sex driven, but if we are in love with a woman, we want to be with her. You'd go to the ends of the earth. It would take an incredibly odd bird or a gay dude to not want that form of intimacy.
You didn't know?

He was gay. Some woman pursued him and essentially convinced him to marry her. When she found out she left raise a stink and eventually he was given the option by St Petersburg society ( the straight guy friends) to ether kill himself or he would be killed . He offed himself.

Loose C can probably untangle the story but that is essentially what happened. Keep that in mind the next time you hear his music

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#37 Apr 7, 2014
cheluzal wrote:
And I don't persue guys.
What about girls?

<runs>

Since: Aug 08

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#38 Apr 7, 2014
I really gotta go to bed. I'll respond to the rest of ya tomorrow, P and Hatti.
Slash

United States

#39 Apr 8, 2014
Sublime1 wrote:
LW1: Turnabout is fair play, you know.

Love is a different animal than sex, however, and I don’t know how you make yourself stop loving someone, if that in fact is how your wife feels about this man, which sounds to be the case. Forgiving someone for an affair is one thing, but wanting to stay married to someone who is in love with someone else is something else entirely different.

You need to have a talk with her. I’d tell her if she loves him so much, then she should go be with him and that you think you should get a divorce, and see what her thoughts are. Ten years is a long time and I imagine quite a strong bond would develop over that time between two people.

LW2: Not sure why you are writing for her.

Tell them to stop calling so much and tell them if they don’t listen you won’t answer the phone. Eventually they will stop.
You need an editor, retard factory.

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#40 Apr 8, 2014
Hatti_Hollerand wrote:
You don't have to "buy it" Sublime .... Even though you can't see it .... Or deny its ability to occur .... The fact is ... It is plausible. End of story :)
If the guy is gay and/or a complete weirdo, I guess it is possible, which is not the same as plausible.:)

Since: Aug 08

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#41 Apr 8, 2014
PEllen wrote:
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You didn't know?
He was gay. Some woman pursued him and essentially convinced him to marry her. When she found out she left raise a stink and eventually he was given the option by St Petersburg society ( the straight guy friends) to ether kill himself or he would be killed . He offed himself.
Loose C can probably untangle the story but that is essentially what happened. Keep that in mind the next time you hear his music
I don't know much about him.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#42 Apr 8, 2014
Sublime1 wrote:
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What about girls?
<runs>
You're not feminine enough for me....

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