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“Not a real reg”

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#21 Nov 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Another unintended consequence of your liberal paradise.
Better that your so called liberal paradise for the school to go a little over the top with the bully issue then to do nothing and have some kid commit suicide as a result.

The guy attitude seems to be toughen up the kid. Well, not all parents are as conscientious as Squishy about raising their kids to be good people. In fact, sometimes I think she and the moms here are in the minority. Their anecdotal evidence shows that this toughen up attitude doesn't solve problems. It takes educating their kids, school awareness and sometimes authorities to do the job.

You always have this opinion about "bad parenting", your opinions are only that. When you actually raise a child and experience the good and the not so good stuff that goes with this life experience then your opinions might mean something. Until then your opinions don't really mean much. Especially when you throw in your stock
"liberal" phrases.

“What's it to ya?”

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#22 Nov 14, 2013
RACE wrote:
Ha-ha!
Your feeding your troll.
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LOL Yeah. Actually I have a headache and don't feel much like playing today.
pde

Davis Junction, IL

#23 Nov 14, 2013
This discussion reminds me of a recent story from another forum ...

A woman was looking for advice on ways that she/her family could sue someone. Here is the reason why they were looking to sue: her brother, during high school, had bullied and then stalked a girl to the point where the legal system actually got involved. He was both asked to leave the school and experienced consequences from the courts (probation and required therapy).

It's now 5 years down the road, and the girl (now woman) he bullied then stalked told her story to a national publication. Neither his first name or last name were used in the publication, but she did use her real name.

They wanted to sue the woman because it was in the past and they believed she shouldn't have the right to speak about her experiences. He got his punishment, thus she should be forbidden from ever telling anyone about what happened. This is what I think that is more typical of what the ringleader bullies grow up into.

The follower bullies, they might grow up into people who apologize. But in reality, they grow up into people who apologize BECAUSE already had at least the vague feeling that what was going on, was wrong, while they were participating.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#24 Nov 14, 2013
dahgts wrote:
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Better that your so called liberal paradise for the school to go a little over the top with the bully issue then to do nothing and have some kid commit suicide as a result.
I just disagree. If I commit suicide because you gave me a wedgie, that's on ME, not on YOU.

To make YOU responsible, and prosecute you, for MY actions, is... well, the end of us all.

We're already seeing it. 26 yr olds who can't move out of their mommy's house, parent's calling HR when you get written up, a 25 yr old calling his/her dad when they get a flat tire, a group of girls being prosecuted for the suicide of a classmate, people who can't use their words when faced with an indiscretion... This... this is our new reality.

Sound like progress?

This is just out of control ridiculousness. Makes me support bullying even more. Let's give bullies medals, instead of giving one to some loser who can't hit a ball but shows up for practice.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#25 Nov 14, 2013
pde wrote:
This discussion reminds me of a recent story from another forum ...
A woman was looking for advice on ways that she/her family could sue someone. Here is the reason why they were looking to sue: her brother, during high school, had bullied and then stalked a girl to the point where the legal system actually got involved. He was both asked to leave the school and experienced consequences from the courts (probation and required therapy).
It's now 5 years down the road, and the girl (now woman) he bullied then stalked told her story to a national publication. Neither his first name or last name were used in the publication, but she did use her real name.
They wanted to sue the woman because it was in the past and they believed she shouldn't have the right to speak about her experiences. He got his punishment, thus she should be forbidden from ever telling anyone about what happened. This is what I think that is more typical of what the ringleader bullies grow up into.
The follower bullies, they might grow up into people who apologize. But in reality, they grow up into people who apologize BECAUSE already had at least the vague feeling that what was going on, was wrong, while they were participating.
I have mixed feelings about this.
The girl has the right to tell/sell her story. She did not mention him by name and presumably no one would recognize him other than the kids they went to school with.

On the other hand, he has a reasonable expectation that he only had to pay his debt to society once. Sex offender lists are there because of a perceived propensity to re-offend. I don't know that is true of bullies. Presumably he changed for the better and if so, it is not fair to him

What his sister has to do with it? Who knows? Money? Five minutes of 2nd hand fame.

Hard to balance the interests.

Toj

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#26 Nov 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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I just disagree. If I commit suicide because you gave me a wedgie, that's on ME, not on YOU.
To make YOU responsible, and prosecute you, for MY actions, is... well, the end of us all.
We're already seeing it. 26 yr olds who can't move out of their mommy's house, parent's calling HR when you get written up, a 25 yr old calling his/her dad when they get a flat tire, a group of girls being prosecuted for the suicide of a classmate, people who can't use their words when faced with an indiscretion... This... this is our new reality.
Sound like progress?
This is just out of control ridiculousness. Makes me support bullying even more. Let's give bullies medals, instead of giving one to some loser who can't hit a ball but shows up for practice.
You are not in reality if you think boys recently just started not moving out of their parents house when they came of age.

Boys are notariously more immature than girls.
dahgts

Chicago Heights, IL

#27 Nov 15, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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I just disagree. If I commit suicide because you gave me a wedgie, that's on ME, not on YOU.
To make YOU responsible, and prosecute you, for MY actions, is... well, the end of us all.
We're already seeing it. 26 yr olds who can't move out of their mommy's house, parent's calling HR when you get written up, a 25 yr old calling his/her dad when they get a flat tire, a group of girls being prosecuted for the suicide of a classmate, people who can't use their words when faced with an indiscretion... This... this is our new reality.
Sound like progress?
This is just out of control ridiculousness. Makes me support bullying even more. Let's give bullies medals, instead of giving one to some loser who can't hit a ball but shows up for practice.
Please. I beg of you. Fo the sake of all humanity...always keep it covered.

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