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“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#1 Apr 27, 2014
DEAR ABBY: I have worked in a pharmacy for 30 years, and every summer it's the same story. People forget their medication and leave it at home.

Why do people not realize that their meds should be one of the FIRST things they pack? Yes, we can call their pharmacist back home to get a transfer, but if the prescription was just filled, their insurance will not go through, or they'll have to wait while we call for a vacation override.

Please, people -- remember your medications, and if you don't plan on spending a while sitting around our pharmacy waiting for us to call your hometown pharmacy, and possibly your insurance company, then don't get angry at us when it takes longer than the 15 minutes you expected.

I love my job. But I'm beginning to dread irresponsible, crabby tourists who know they need their blood pressure meds every day and expect us to drop whatever we're doing to take care of them.-- PHRUSTRATED PHARMACIST IN MONTANA

DEAR PHARMACIST: I sympathize with your "phrustration," so I'm printing your heartfelt letter, hoping it will help you to lower YOUR blood pressure. I don't think the people you describe are irresponsible as much as they may be disorganized.

The way I have solved this problem is to keep multiple copies of a printed list of items I must have when I travel. As I pack, I check them off my list -- and before I close my travel bag, I double-check to make sure nothing has been forgotten. Perhaps others will find this helpful.

DEAR ABBY: What's up with penmanship these days? A few years ago, my mother gave me some old letters written by my grandfather to my grandmother. Some of them are treasures because the written words are not only loving and endearing, but the penmanship is beautiful. The script writings are actually examples of "art" in this modern age.

I work at a bank, Abby, and many of the signatures I see every day are illegible. Is written communication becoming obsolete? With the electronic age and schools going paperless, will penmanship become unnecessary?-- MARY IN HUNTSVILLE, ALA.

DEAR MARY: Years ago, penmanship was routinely taught in the public schools, and students spent nearly an hour a day practicing how to write legibly. Today, I am told that 10 minutes is devoted to teaching students to PRINT. If the emails I receive are any indication, capitalization and punctuation are also being jettisoned. And if the electric grid ever goes

DEAR ABBY: I know it's rude to ask workers how much money they make, but does that also apply to asking a student what his or her grades are? Aside from parents and teachers, I don't think it's anybody's business how I'm doing academically.

In my opinion, asking, "How are your grades?" is as rude as asking, "How much money do you make?" What do you think?-- MATT IN EUGENE, ORE.

DEAR MATT: I'm with you. How about coming back with, "I'll forgive you for asking if you'll forgive me for not answering."

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#2 Apr 27, 2014
L1. Is that any worse that irresponsibly crabby regular customers who insist that they should get "real" pills even though insurance will only pay for generics?

L2 I promise you my handwriting is better than my typing.
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#3 Apr 27, 2014
1: People are idiots. Why get frustrated? Do what you can and they can deal with being so dumb.

2: Yes, the electric age has made people idiots. I teach my 8th graders cursive at the start of the year and make them sign their name with it. I mean, really---when they buy stuff and sign contracts are we allowing print? Gross.

3: Depends on who is asking, but yeah--seems a bit nosy (unless it's parents).

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#4 Apr 27, 2014
1- Let's all write Abby and gripe about our jobs

2- Yep, my penmanship has gone downhill drastically since I've left school. Aside from a few sentences on a card here or there, jotting notes on the log-book at work, I haven't hand-written anything substantial in about a decade. I can PRINT okay, but cursive? Good luck deciphering THAT mumbo-jumbo

3- Then your grades obviously suck. You should be PROUD of your grades, not leery of talking about them. Lay off the xbox and hit the books more often
Cass

Claremont, CA

#5 Apr 27, 2014
LW1 - Just do your job.

LW2 - What's with handwriting these days? Well, we don't do much of it, and there are no teachers whacking kids on hands with rulers for messy handwriting, but..... if you think *everyone* used to write beautifully, I urge you to google "Ben Franklin's handwriting" and look at some images.

LW3 - Yep, rude unless they are paying for your education. What do you say back? "Fine," of course.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#6 Apr 27, 2014
L1: They're keeping you in business. Think of it that way.

L2: I know some people over 50 who were taught how to write who write like crap. I know some young people with beautiful penmanship. I'm not buying into it. It's the old -- things were better back in the olden days. Were they really or do we want to brag?

L3: They're not trying to be rude. Just say you're proud of your grades or that your GPA is going just fine and turn the subject to other things.
Zap Brannigan

United States

#7 Apr 27, 2014
Is that your way of asking Chel to be your private tutor?
edogxxx wrote:
I can PRINT okay, but cursive? Good luck deciphering THAT mumbo-jumbo

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#8 Apr 27, 2014
Toj wrote:
L1: They're keeping you in business. Think of it that way.
L2: I know some people over 50 who were taught how to write who write like crap. I know some young people with beautiful penmanship. I'm not buying into it. It's the old -- things were better back in the olden days. Were they really or do we want to brag?
L3: They're not trying to be rude. Just say you're proud of your grades or that your GPA is going just fine and turn the subject to other things.
You are in Chicago; I am not sure if this holds true elsewhere. If an adult has very good copperplate handwriting, odds are they went to a Catholic grammar school.

I have asked random people whose writitng I have seen and perhaps 80% of the time I have been correct.

The converse does not work though.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#9 Apr 27, 2014
L1. You're a pharmacist, maybe take two Valium 10's.....
You're job's not that hard. Those people are in panic mode sometimes when they forget their medicine.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#10 Apr 27, 2014
cheluzal wrote:
2: Yes, the electric age has made people idiots.
Its silly to think of a person as an idiot for not writing in cursive. I went to college well before the new electronic era. I have not written in cursive since grade school.
cheluzal wrote:
I teach my 8th graders cursive at the start of the year and make them sign their name with it. I mean, really---when they buy stuff and sign contracts are we allowing print? Gross.
This is actually the only concern I have with handwriting classes being eliminated from the curriculum. There is really no need for it other than signing your name. So if we no longer have handwriting classes, how will students learn to sign their name? It would seem odd for a teacher to just teach each student how to sign THEIR name.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#11 Apr 27, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>
Its silly to think of a person as an idiot for not writing in cursive. I went to college well before the new electronic era. I have not written in cursive since grade school.
<quoted text>This is actually the only concern I have with handwriting classes being eliminated from the curriculum. There is really no need for it other than signing your name. So if we no longer have handwriting classes, how will students learn to sign their name? It would seem odd for a teacher to just teach each student how to sign THEIR name.
Are laptops or tablets in all classes where you would take notes?
cheluzal

Plant City, FL

#12 Apr 27, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
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Its silly to think of a person as an idiot for not writing in cursive. I went to college well before the new electronic era. I have not written in cursive since grade school.
<quoted text>This is actually the only concern I have with handwriting classes being eliminated from the curriculum. There is really no need for it other than signing your name. So if we no longer have handwriting classes, how will students learn to sign their name? It would seem odd for a teacher to just teach each student how to sign THEIR name.
I beseech you to stop putting words in my mouth.
I said the techno age made people idiots. Nowhere did I say not being able to write in cursive made people idiots, yet that is what you unjustly deduced. Grr...

And teaching their name is better than nothing at all, consider it is NOT in my curriculum and I take the time to do it because I feel they should at least be able to sign their name in cursive.

Cursive is important because lots of documents and things are in cursive and kids should read it....although, since we're mowing though the Constitution I guess it doesn't matter if they can read it or not!

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#13 Apr 27, 2014
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text> Are laptops or tablets in all classes where you would take notes?
My college days we pre the proliferation of laptops. Hand written notes. Just not in cursive

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#14 Apr 27, 2014
cheluzal wrote:
I beseech you to stop putting words in my mouth.
I said the techno age made people idiots. Nowhere did I say not being able to write in cursive made people idiots, yet that is what you unjustly deduced. Grr...
Unjustly? That is what we are discussing. You did not gracefully segue away from that. You just inserted the electronic age. Its certainly not a stretch that you were blaming the electronic age for the lowering emphasis placed on handwriting. Perhaps YOU should express yourself a little more clearly.
cheluzal wrote:
And teaching their name is better than nothing at all, consider it is NOT in my curriculum and I take the time to do it because I feel they should at least be able to sign their name in cursive.
I agree.
cheluzal wrote:
Cursive is important because lots of documents and things are in cursive and kids should read it ....although, since we're mowing though the Constitution I guess it doesn't matter if they can read it or not!
I disagree. Find me any important document that you come across in life that is in cursive. You mention the constitution.
Here you go. http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/con...
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“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#15 Apr 27, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree. Find me any important document that you come across in life that is in cursive. You mention the constitution.
The Constitution was written in cursive.

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“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#16 Apr 27, 2014
edogxxx wrote:
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The Constitution was written in cursive.
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Doesn't matter. The bible was not written in English, yet you have a copy you can read. Likewise, the constitution is widely available in print. The fact that the original is in cursive is irrelevant to all but historians. For practical matters, reading/writing in cursive is not necessary.

Other than signing your name, find me an area of your life to which not reading/writing in cursive would be an impediment.
Julie

Chicago, IL

#17 Apr 27, 2014
LW3: Just say, "My grades are fine--thanks for asking. How's your sex life?"
pde

Bothell, WA

#18 Apr 27, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
Other than signing your name, find me an area of your life to which not reading/writing in cursive would be an impediment.
Writing in cursive is an impediment in the tech industry, since many English-as-a-second-language folk (Indian/Asian) can't read cursive. Type or print. I was really shocked when one of my best foreign coworkers (both intellectually and technologically) told me she couldn't read the notes I'd written in cursive. And re: PEllen, my cursive is copperplate Catholic when I care to write cursive.

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#19 Apr 27, 2014
pde wrote:
<quoted text>
Writing in cursive is an impediment in the tech industry, since many English-as-a-second-language folk (Indian/Asian) can't read cursive. Type or print. I was really shocked when one of my best foreign coworkers (both intellectually and technologically) told me she couldn't read the notes I'd written in cursive. And re: PEllen, my cursive is copperplate Catholic when I care to write cursive.
Did you go to Catholic grammar school?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#20 Apr 28, 2014
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Doesn't matter. The bible was not written in English, yet you have a copy you can read. Likewise, the constitution is widely available in print. The fact that the original is in cursive is irrelevant to all but historians. For practical matters, reading/writing in cursive is not necessary.
Other than signing your name, find me an area of your life to which not reading/writing in cursive would be an impediment.
You asked for an important document written in cursive, as if one didn't exist. I provided an example, now you're changing your tune

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