Socialism and Obamacare

Socialism and Obamacare

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IWW

Gilbertsville, KY

#1 Dec 7, 2013
A lot of people call Obamacare "Socialism" but it is not socialism. Socialists are first and foremost a party of and for the working people. Obama's political base is the non-working welfare recipient class.

Obamacare was designed to benefit Obama's non-working welfare recipient class supporters by providing them with free medical care. It does that very well. They get Medicaid. Free.

Obamacare was also designed to punish the mostly white working class, who are by default the rank and file voters of the Republican Party. Workers will be forced to pay for insurance that is more expensive, more restrictive, and that pays far less of their doctors bill than what they already had. Obamacare's rules that employers with fewer than 50 employees do not have to provide insurance will cause many people to be fired from their jobs. Employers with say 53 employees will fire 4 of them to get down to 49, and thus not have to provide insurance. The "part time" loophole in the law will cause big employers like Walmart that employ low paid, low skill workers to cut workers hours to half time so that they do not have to insure those workers.

Obamacare is also a disguised bailout for the big for-profit insurance companies, since it gives them a captive market.
hitlery cliton

Gurnee, IL

#2 Dec 7, 2013
It's for the greater good!
NO OBOZOSCAM

Sardinia, OH

#3 Dec 7, 2013
hitlery cliton wrote:
It's for the greater good!
The greater good of who?Nonsense!
NO OBOZOSCAM

Sardinia, OH

#5 Dec 7, 2013
Ramrod Jocko wrote:
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FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF COMMUNISM AND THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERIKA.
there you go,you dam sure got this one right.
IWW

Gilbertsville, KY

#6 Dec 7, 2013
Ramrod Jocko wrote:
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FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF COMMUNISM AND THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERIKA.
What Obama is promoting is not communism either. Communism is also by definition a workers' party. It does not tolerate a welfare parasite class.
NO OBOZOSCAM

Sardinia, OH

#7 Dec 7, 2013
IWW wrote:
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What Obama is promoting is not communism either. Communism is also by definition a workers' party. It does not tolerate a welfare parasite class.
He dam sure isn't promoting something American.
George Fitzhugh

Hopkinsville, KY

#9 Dec 8, 2013
Ramrod Jocko wrote:
<quoted text> WELL, maybe it's some HYBRID OF COMMUNISM, I DON'T KNOW BUT IT SURE AS HELL ISN'T SOMETHING AMERICAN OR FREE TRADE OR CAPITALISTIC. IT IS SOMETHING WHERE "THE FEW" are ordering and ruling the many. THAT'S NOT AMERICA.
Not a hybrid of communism. Socialism and communism (a name coined by Karl Marx to distinguish his brand of socialism, which is socialim that rules out religion, from Christian Socialism) are both 19th century European ideologies and were relevant to the economic realities of 19th century Europe. They have no relevance to the situation in the U.S.A. today. Everything that Karl Marx wrote was set in European context. He had almost nothing to say about the United States or the American economy. It was, in his thinking, outside the sphere of what he considered Western society and economy. Communism was in Marx's view the highest state of a society and economy. It was not for primitives and uncivilized savages.

Marx did write one thing that is interesting, however. Marx wrote,“Without slavery you have no cotton, without cotton you cannot have modern industry ... Cause slavery to disappear, and you will have effaced America from the map of nations.”

Since Marx obviously did not think that modern industry should cease to exist. Since he thought that industry could not exist without slaves to do the very lowest grade of labor, it stands to reason that he thought slavery in one form or another would always be necessary for Western civilization to continue to exist and advance.
NO OBOZOSCAM

Sardinia, OH

#10 Dec 8, 2013
Yes and starting Feb 1,2014 coming to a school near You.A federally funded muslim program to be taught in schools.I would pull my kids out of school now.This and that common core bullsh##.parents your kids are not your kids anymore.
hitlery cliton

Gurnee, IL

#11 Dec 8, 2013
Hiel hitlery Hiel hitlery Hiel hitlery!
Exit Strategy

Murray, KY

#12 Dec 8, 2013
NO OBOZOSCAM wrote:
Yes and starting Feb 1,2014 coming to a school near You.A federally funded muslim program to be taught in schools.
I haven't heard anything about that. Please explain.

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