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New study finds recurrent depression in children as young as 3

There are 29 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Aug 4, 2009, titled New study finds recurrent depression in children as young as 3. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Depression in children as young as 3 is real and not just a passing grumpy mood, according to provocative new research.

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Since: May 08

Homewood, IL

#23 Aug 4, 2009
Did I miss it, or was there no mention of who funded this study? Because it has the pharmaceutical industry's fingerprints all over it.

Wilmette, IL

#24 Aug 4, 2009
yeah, crack addicts cause depression in children. so do multiple baby daddies, 40's and gettin jiggy wit it!

Wilmette, IL

#25 Aug 4, 2009
da spellin homegirl wrote:
Did I miss it, or was there no mention of who funded this study? Because it has the pharmaceutical industry's fingerprints all over it.
true dat yo!

High Springs, FL

#26 Aug 4, 2009
Snap shot view of the Bush Republican coup d'etat and the importants of the mental health industry is distructing of the nation and alinating gender, parents and childen. 1/2 pages

summing it all up:

H. W. Bush was a CEO for Eli Lilly. His son George worked for Eli Lilly too. So did Ken Lay from the Enron scandals.

Bush "New World Order"


Bush's Texas Two-Step: TeenScreen and TMAP

May 27, 2005—On April 29, 2002, George W. Bush established the New Freedom Commission (NFC) by executive order. While speaking in New Mexico on that date, he said mental health centers and hospitals, homeless shelters, the justice and school systems have contact with individuals suffering from mental disorders but that too many Americans fall through the cracks of the current system and so he created the commission to ensure “that the cracks are closed.”


Two of the so-called model programs that Bush wants to establish in all 50 states are TeenScreen and TMAP (Texas Medication Algorithm Project). The truth is, this whole New Freedom facade is nothing more than an elaborate profiteering scheme involving the Bush administration, local government officials, and the pharmaceutical industry to increase the market for the sale of expensive psychiatric drugs.

more: :80/health/052705Pringle/05270 5pringle.html

Stop TeenScreen's Unscientific and Experimental "Mental Health Screening" of American School Children :80/mod_perl/signed.cgi?TScree n

TeenScreen - The Last Straw
By Doyle Mills


TeenScreen is a highly controversial child suicide screening initiative with major ties to pharmaceutical companies. It is simply a marketing ploy to funnel massive numbers of our youth into the mental health system. An Internet search will pull up literally thousands of websites, articles and blogs critical of the program. Almost daily, newspapers publish articles and letters with the message that TeenScreen is a dangerous program, aimed at turning normal teenagers into new customers for the multi-billion dollar psycho-pharmaceutical industry.

High Springs, FL

#27 Aug 4, 2009

Forced Mental Health Parity (Not debated by Congress) but placed in the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 by the backdoor method)


Psychiatric groups have tried for years to force insurance companies to cover the treatment of mental illness and addiction. The parity amendment in the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 requires that mental health and substance use disorder benefits be "no more restrictive than the predominant financial requirements applied to substantially all medical and surgical benefits covered" by an insurance group health plan or coverage (if said plan covers mental illness).

Unless reversed - or at least modified to apply only to severe disorders - the legislation is likely to open up a Pandora's box for the American health care system, say Richard E. Vatz, a professor at Towson University, and associate psychology editor of USA Today Magazine, and Jeffrey A. Schaler, a psychologist, and professor of justice, law and society at American University and executive editor of Current Psychology.

Among the problems with the parity argument:

The American Psychiatric Association claims that more than 50 percent of Americans are now or will at some point be mentally ill -- although there is no way to accurately confirm or disconfirm "mental illness."
Supporters of parity celebrate the new law as signaling the end of "stigma," but they fail to consider that stigmatization is a marvelous negative reinforcer for undesired behavior, some of which is called "mental illness."
Substance abuse disorders are arguably a function of behavioral choices and are best explained by mindset, personal values and how coping skills, unlike bodily illness; one can no more will away cancer, heart disease or diabetes than he or she can will their onset.
Severe conditions such as schizophrenia have been used to typify "mental illness," when it in fact constitutes no more than 1.5 percent of those labeled "mentally ill."
A more prototypical mental illness, "adjustment disorder," is a name given by psychiatrists to people who have problems in living. The same could be said for "impulse-control disorders" such as gambling too much (called "pathological gambling") and other supposed mental disorders.

Even worse is the fact that such a contentious, scientifically questionable and potentially expensive piece of legislation was passed through the back door.

Source: Richard E. Vatz and Jeffrey A. Schaler,'Parity' through back door," Baltimore Sun, October 23, 2008.


And now the military

Baltimore Sun's article by Lisa Chedekel and Matthew Kauffman " Policies on mentally troubled troops questioned" is informative to the problems of psychotropic drug usage on the war front.


Suicides in Marine Corps Rise by 29%
Fast Pace of Operations Are Believed to Contribute

Army's Suicide Rate has Outside Experts Alarmed

Not much different then the public sector with deaths, violence and suicides

High Springs, FL

#28 Aug 4, 2009
Lets not forget the public school and the IDEA program

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Why your kid is drugged in school

How it works:

The State Department of Education gets monies from the Federal Government under a program called "Idea" for each child diagnosed with a disability. A disability could be ADD/ADHD, Bi-polar disorder, Depression or any of the other mental diagnoses.

Who profits: The State Department of Education, the mental health and counseling Industry, the Pharmaceutical company and the money that is kicked back by lobbyists for politicians special interest and of course the legal profession.

All this at the cost of your child's sanity.

IDEA" Final Regulation (part 1 of 2)

300.7 Child with a disability.

(a) General.

(1) As used in this part, the term child with a disability means a child evaluated in accordance with §§300.530-300.536 as having mental retardation, a hearing impairment including deafness, a speech or language impairment, a visual impairment including blindness, serious emotional disturbance (hereafter referred to as emotional disturbance), an orthopedic impairment, autism, traumatic brain injury, an other health impairment, a specific learning disability, deaf-blindness, or multiple disabilities, and who, by reason thereof, needs special education and related services.
(i) The term means a condition exhibiting one or more of the following characteristics over a long period of time and to a marked degree that adversely affects a child's educational performance:
(A) An inability to learn that cannot be explained by intellectual, sensory, or health factors.
(B) An inability to build or maintain satisfactory interpersonal relationships with peers and teachers.
(C) Inappropriate types of behavior or feelings under normal circumstances.
(D) A general pervasive mood of unhappiness or depression.
(E) A tendency to develop physical symptoms or fears associated with personal or school problems.
(ii) The term includes schizophrenia. The term does not apply to children who are socially maladjusted, unless it is determined that they have an emotional disturbance.
9) Other health impairment means having limited strength, vitality or alertness, including a heightened alertness to environmental stimuli, that results in limited alertness with respect to the educational environment, that-
(i) Is due to chronic or acute health problems such as asthma, attention deficit disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, diabetes, epilepsy, a heart condition, hemophilia, lead poisoning, leukemia, nephritis, rheumatic fever, and sickle cell anemia; and
(ii) Adversely affects a child's educational performance
§300.24 Related services.
(a) General. As used in this part, the term related services means transportation and such developmental, corrective, and other supportive services as are required to assist a child with a disability.
(9) Psychological services includes-
(i) Administering psychological and educational tests, and other assessment procedures;
(ii) Interpreting assessment results;
(iii) Obtaining, integrating, and interpreting information about child behavior and conditions relating to learning;
(iv) Consulting with other staff members in planning school programs to meet the special needs of children as indicated by psychological tests, interviews, and behavioral evaluations;
(v) Planning and managing a program of psychological services, including psychological counseling for children and parents; and
(vi) Assisting in developing positive behavioral intervention strategies.

High Springs, FL

#29 Aug 4, 2009
IDEA (2 of 2)

§300.26 Special education.

(a) General.
(1) As used in this part, the term special education means specially designed instruction, at no cost to the parents, to meet the unique needs of a child with a disability, including-
(i) Instruction conducted in the classroom, in the home, in hospitals and institutions, and in other settings; and
(ii) Instruction in physical education.
(2) The term includes each of the following, if it meets the requirements of paragraph (a)(1) of this section:
(i) Speech-language pathology services, or any other related service, if the service is considered special education rather than a related service under State standards;
(ii) Travel training; and
(iii) Vocational education.
(3) Specially-designed instruction means adapting, as appropriate to the needs of an eligible child under this part, the content, methodology, or delivery of instruction-
(i) To address the unique needs of the child that result from the child's disability; and
(ii) To ensure access of the child to the general curriculum, so that he or she can meet the educational standards within the jurisdiction of the public agency that apply to all children.

State Eligibility—General

§300.110 Condition of assistance.
(a) A State is eligible for assistance under Part B of the Act for a fiscal year if the State demonstrates to the satisfaction of the Secretary that the State has in effect policies and procedures to ensure that it meets the conditions in §§300.121-300.156.

State Eligibility—Specific Conditions

§300.121 Free appropriate public education (FAPE).
(a) General. Each State must have on file with the Secretary information that shows that, subject to §300.122, the State has in effect a policy that ensures that all children with disabilities aged 3 through 21 residing in the State have the right to FAPE, including children with disabilities who have been suspended or expelled from school.

§300.154 Maintenance of State financial support.

(a) General. The State must have on file with the Secretary information to demonstrate, on either a total or per-capita basis, that the State will not reduce the amount of State financial support for special education and related services for children with disabilities, or otherwise made available because of the excess costs of educating those children, below the amount of that support for the preceding fiscal year.
(b) Reduction of funds for failure to maintain support. The Secretary reduces the allocation of funds under section 611 of the Act for any fiscal year following the fiscal year in which the State fails to comply with the requirement of paragraph



FAPE (free appropriate public education)
Title 34 Education

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#33 Jan 30, 2014
I've been on Effexor from only one week but am cautiously very optimistic. Prior to this I was on citalopram but still feeling very low and sleeping poorly, feeling like I needed to be in bed 12-16 hours a day. Now I am waking naturally after only 8 hours sleep and finding it much easier to concentrate at work. I can hardly believe it is working so quickly but I feel so much better. I've had no side effects.

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