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“Licensed to Ill”

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Jan 31, 2013
 

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Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I've never witnessed anyone use food stamps to buy groceries.
So, using edogg logic, that has probably only ever happened once.
You wouldn't know if someone was using food stamps, because its just like a credit card. They switched to ebt cards for food stamps in the 90s so that people were not embarrassed to use them.

It made liberals hearts bleed that someone might actually feel shame and embarrassment for being a ward of the state ... and as an added benefit it's good policy to remove every and all possible incentive to get off of them, inducing shame ... nope keep em on them ... more votes that way.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text>You wouldn't know if someone was using food stamps, because its just like a credit card. They switched to ebt cards for food stamps in the 90s so that people were not embarrassed to use them.

It made liberals hearts bleed that someone might actually feel shame and embarrassment for being a ward of the state ... and as an added benefit it's good policy to remove every and all possible incentive to get off of them, inducing shame ... nope keep em on them ... more votes that way.
Including shame, I meant.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
I worked in a grocery store near a rather poor part of town for a good year. Food stamp abuse was very rare.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Sublime1 wrote:
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You wouldn't know if someone was using food stamps, because its just like a credit card. They switched to ebt cards for food stamps in the 90s so that people were not embarrassed to use them.
It made liberals hearts bleed that someone might actually feel shame and embarrassment for being a ward of the state ... and as an added benefit it's good policy to remove every and all possible incentive to get off of them, inducing shame ... nope keep em on them ... more votes that way.
I wasn't about embarrassment and shame -- it was a cheaper way to dispense the funds, made it more difficult for people to sell their benefits to others, etc.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
also: Using the EBT card makes it easier to keep people from buying non-food items -- the system won't allow it.

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<quoted text>I wasn't about embarrassment and shame -- it was a cheaper way to dispense the funds, made it more difficult for people to sell their benefits to others, etc.
That is true, but stigma was part of it too:

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/ar...

While it may cost less, I bet it also lessens the incentive to get off ... thus increasing costs. You can bet a lot of folks would be embarrassed as all hell if everyone in line had to watch and wait for them to pull out their stamp book and pay with stamps ...

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Jan 31, 2013
 
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While it may cost less, I bet it also lessens the incentive to get off ... thus increasing costs. You can bet a lot of folks would be embarrassed as all hell if everyone in line had to watch and wait for them to pull out their stamp book and pay with stamps ...
No, judging by the shoppers at the grocery closest to my home, there is no shame at all. The woman behind me was missing teeth and using her EBT card to buy candy and fake fruit juice for her kids (so, not even the relatively healthy stuff with high % of juice in it).

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Jan 31, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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Then you're either not paying attention or you shop in a ritzy part of town. I see it almost every time I'm at the store.
I am 100% not paying attention. That's by design. Unless there is some sort of hold up, I don't care if they pay with a bag of used bandages. While I'm waiting, I am playing on my phone, checking out the beach body pictures in the National Enquirer, or trying to find the page with the fatty in a bikini to see who it is on the cover. I find it peculiar that you claim to be so tuned in to the details of someone else's transaction and its even more peculiar that you see it "almost every time". Does that mean that "almost every time" you end up in line behind the food stamps person, or does your food stamp surveillance include checking out the transactions going on in adjacent checkout lines as well?

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#29
Jan 31, 2013
 
I think basically everyone has it. The first letter the LW is a total nitwit. You can't run other people's lives and you should not judge your student's personal choices.

On letter 2, while I haven't seen it happen I know people are stupid enough to do that. Whatever. It's rude and shouldn't be done. What I don't get is why it was important to the LW to get Abby's opinion.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Sublime1 wrote:
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You wouldn't know if someone was using food stamps, because its just like a credit card.
YOU'RE WRONG!

Edogg sees it almost every time he shops. You calling him a liar?!

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Jan 31, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>No, judging by the shoppers at the grocery closest to my home, there is no shame at all. The woman behind me was missing teeth and using her EBT card to buy candy and fake fruit juice for her kids (so, not even the relatively healthy stuff with high % of juice in it).
Yes, I'm afraid for many you are correct.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
L! I am envision an old fashioned Salvation Army/WCTU parade wher e LW comes in in a uniform with an ax to tear down that den of iniquity. Rather like Guys and Dolls.
HA! I had a similar visual in mind - the Ladies Temperance League... LOL.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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I was told by a friend... who, while he was looking for his lost puppy, tripped and stumbled into strip club.
The one on %3 in Romeoville perhaps?
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Jan 31, 2013
 
Kuuipo wrote:
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HA! I had a similar visual in mind - the Ladies Temperance League... LOL.
Should read Rt 53 in Romeoville

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Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> I am 100% not paying attention. That's by design. Unless there is some sort of hold up, I don't care if they pay with a bag of used bandages. While I'm waiting, I am playing on my phone, checking out the beach body pictures in the National Enquirer, or trying to find the page with the fatty in a bikini to see who it is on the cover. I find it peculiar that you claim to be so tuned in to the details of someone else's transaction and its even more peculiar that you see it "almost every time". Does that mean that "almost every time" you end up in line behind the food stamps person, or does your food stamp surveillance include checking out the transactions going on in adjacent checkout lines as well?
I'm aware of my surroundings. I'm not one to have my nose buried in a device and be completely oblivious to the world around me.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Should read Rt 53 in Romeoville
Crazy Rock?
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Jan 31, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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I'm aware of my surroundings. I'm not one to have my nose buried in a device....
Well of course, how else would you maintain your vigilant look-out for the liberal subterfuge?

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Sam I Am wrote:
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Well of course, how else would you maintain your vigilant look-out for the liberal subterfuge?
Exactly! The last time I wasn't paying attention, they raised my taxes!
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Jan 31, 2013
 
LW1: Jebus, lady. Get.Over.Yourself.

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