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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197477 Aug 3, 2014
LRS wrote:
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Hell, I capitalized SMELTERS! Not that I was "really" trying to prove anything. Sure got the responses, though!
Romper babbles about smelters in Southern Illinois in one post, landfills in another , and then battery recycling centers. None worth crap. He's jacking with himself.

Pathetic.
wojar wrote:
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Sorry Dufus, he never said anything about smelting. He referred to "recycling centers" which are not recycling plants. Please learn English.
Some egg is still stuck to Dufus Dale's face; he missed a spot.
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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197478 Aug 3, 2014
LRS wrote:
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Hell, I capitalized SMELTERS! Not that I was "really" trying to prove anything. Sure got the responses, though!
Romper never said anything about smelters in the fantasy battery recycling centers all around Chicago. Got Alzheimer's? Romper said smelters in southern Illinois (which could not possibly affect the O'Hare area.)

Pathetic.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197479 Aug 3, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Dick!!! Now you know that it depends on the winds as to what the fallout will be in any given area, for all you know the blood of any given child could have come from the environment in which it was reared (home), since most homes around any given airport are old and contain lead paint and window glazing.
What is Dale blabbering about? The O'Hare study concerned airborne lead and had nothing to do with measured blood levels.

BTW, the study of children's blood levels took into account the age of housing resolved at the individual tax parcel level.

So Dufus is again FOS and shooting from the hip with blanks while wearing a blindfold.

Thanks for the laugh.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Higher concentrations come from a proximal source. This is because the concentration dissipates with distance. So when Bensenville has high Pb when downwind of O'Hare (but upwind the Pb is low) but Schiller Park gets the downwind Pb on days when the wind blows from O'Hare it's obviously coming from O'Hare.
There are three people walking down a deserted street in Illinois. A, B, and C. A is behind B and C. B is behind C. A talks to C on his cell phone and tells C he hears someone whistling ahead of him. C says he hears someone whistling behind him. Dale thinks the person whistling might be in Gary Indiana.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197480 Aug 3, 2014
"This enabled us to generate a table containing blood lead screening results and four dummy variables representing whether each child lived within 500 m, 1,000 m, 1,500 m, or 2,000 m of an airport.
We supplemented the blood lead screening and airport location data with data from county tax assessor databases on age of housing (to control for lead exposure risks from deteriorating lead-based paint), resolved at the individual tax parcel level."

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#197481 Aug 3, 2014
LRS wrote:
http://theinterrobang.com/mass ive-unidentified-sea-monster-c aught-on-oil-rig-cam/
My best guess is a neural-buoyancy glob of petroleum.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197482 Aug 3, 2014
The ignorant LMAO twins seem unaware that environmental scientists know how to conduct a properly controlled study. Does anyone really believe an environmental scientist experienced in the field of lead is not aware of lead paint in old houses? No one except the LMAO twins and a few birfoons.

But Rouge insisted there were no such studies at all. Mr. expert in all things aviation, flat out wrong.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#197483 Aug 3, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Fool. Idiots who voted for Obama, you report? Well, 60 million voted for him, which is over 50% of the vote. Based on that percentage, we can therefore conclude that about 55% of all Americans are pro-Obama. That would come to over 160 million Americans. Now, they are all stupid, according to you and your stupid videos. WOW. Now, were you and your ilk not boasting that the U.S. is the greatest country in the world? Please inform how that can be, what with 160 million idiots, more than half the population?
Oh, that's right, like your birther brother Rogue stated, it would be the greatest in the world if you got rid of 44% of its population , including Chicago, Detroit and a few other large centres.
Well, news for you, LOSER, birthers ARE the idiots, obviously. But hey, Frank, do stay, we need the laughs, the world is so sad these days. Cheer us up some more.
"WERE pro-Obama". The the election where held today, he would not even win the Democrat primary.
And 160 MILLION people voted for Obama in 2012? Try 65,915,796!!! You some how think 100% of our population votes to include one day old babies and people who have been dead for ten years.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#197484 Aug 3, 2014
wojar wrote:
The ignorant LMAO twins seem unaware that environmental scientists know how to conduct a properly controlled study. Does anyone really believe an environmental scientist experienced in the field of lead is not aware of lead paint in old houses? No one except the LMAO twins and a few birfoons.
But Rouge insisted there were no such studies at all. Mr. expert in all things aviation, flat out wrong.
Many people who work in those field have an agendas so their work is tainted. Michael Mann and James Hansen are just two who have been caught cooking their data books.

Mannís new AMO paper:ĎHad I been a reviewer, I would have pointed this out and recommended rejection.Ď
Posted on May 19, 2014 by Guest Blogger

Mannís new paper recharacterizing the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation

A guest post by Nic Lewis

Introduction

Michael Mann has had a paper on the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) accepted by Geophysical Research Letters:ďOn forced temperature changes, internal variability, and the AMOĒ. The paper seeks to overturn the current understanding of the AMO, and provides what on the surface appears to be impressive evidence. But on my reading of the paper Mannís case is built on results that do not support his contentions. Had I been a reviewer, I would have pointed this out and recommended rejection.

In this article, I first set out the background to the debate about the AMO and present Mannís claims. I then examine Mannís evidence for his claims in detail, and demonstrate that it is illusory. I end with a discussion of the AMO. All the links I give provide access to the full text of the papers cited, not just to their abstracts.

The abstract and access to Supplementary Information is here . Mann has made a preprint of the paper available, here . More importantly, and very commendably, he has made full data and Matlab code available.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/19/manns-n...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#197485 Aug 3, 2014
wojar wrote:
"This enabled us to generate a table containing blood lead screening results and four dummy variables representing whether each child lived within 500 m, 1,000 m, 1,500 m, or 2,000 m of an airport.
We supplemented the blood lead screening and airport location data with data from county tax assessor databases on age of housing (to control for lead exposure risks from deteriorating lead-based paint), resolved at the individual tax parcel level."
No link, as usual!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#197486 Aug 3, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Not a bad idea. Over here, polls are illegal the last 2 days of the campaign. But hey, don't blame the broadcasters and papers for being right.
One thing for you. Polls are taken all the time, and samples across a country like the USA number max, 10,000 surveyed. And they turn out to be right 90% of the time. Now, 55 million people vote for Obama, you don,t think that, as samples go, is superior to 10,000 citizens polled? Face it, if every man woman and child was forced to vote, no matter the age or circumstances, result would've been about 165,000 to 150,000. So, 165,000 idiots, sez you.
Yep, and 50% of our population have an IQ under 100 too.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197487 Aug 3, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Many people who work in those field have an agendas so their work is tainted. Michael Mann and James Hansen are just two who have been caught cooking their data books.
Mannís new AMO paper:ĎHad I been a reviewer, I would have pointed this out and recommended rejection.Ď
Posted on May 19, 2014 by Guest Blogger
Mannís new paper recharacterizing the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation
A guest post by Nic Lewis
Introduction
Michael Mann has had a paper on the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) accepted by Geophysical Research Letters:ďOn forced temperature changes, internal variability, and the AMOĒ. The paper seeks to overturn the current understanding of the AMO, and provides what on the surface appears to be impressive evidence. But on my reading of the paper Mannís case is built on results that do not support his contentions. Had I been a reviewer, I would have pointed this out and recommended rejection.
In this article, I first set out the background to the debate about the AMO and present Mannís claims. I then examine Mannís evidence for his claims in detail, and demonstrate that it is illusory. I end with a discussion of the AMO. All the links I give provide access to the full text of the papers cited, not just to their abstracts.
The abstract and access to Supplementary Information is here . Mann has made a preprint of the paper available, here . More importantly, and very commendably, he has made full data and Matlab code available.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/19/manns-n...
Is Rougetard out of his mind? The blood lead data was taken from a state run database by people unconnected to the study. It couldn't possibly be fudged.

And the only cooking that was done in relation to Mann was by his detractors who made up the "Climategage" fake scandal that didn't pan out. Mann's research was vindicated several years ago and Rouge simply refuses to believe anything that doesn't fit his narrative.

And whether Nic Lewis agrees with or disagrees with some of Mann's recent publication doesn't change the fact that Mann's tree ring data has been validated by other scientists. It is the nature of scientific publication that some will agree and other s disagree, and discussion continues. Rouge is completely ignorant of how science works.
wojar wrote:
The ignorant LMAO twins seem unaware that environmental scientists know how to conduct a properly controlled study. Does anyone really believe an environmental scientist experienced in the field of lead is not aware of lead paint in old houses? No one except the LMAO twins and a few birfoons.
But Rouge insisted there were no such studies at all. Mr. expert in all things aviation, flat out wrong.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#197488 Aug 3, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
What is Dale blabbering about? The O'Hare study concerned airborne lead and had nothing to do with measured blood levels.
BTW, the study of children's blood levels took into account the age of housing resolved at the individual tax parcel level.
So Dufus is again FOS and shooting from the hip with blanks while wearing a blindfold.
Thanks for the laugh.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Dick, now we are talking, O'Hare had nothing to do with blood levels!!! The biggest mining of lead comes from Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma. Now which way does the wind blow over 50% of the year?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197489 Aug 3, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Many people who work in those field have an agendas so their work is tainted.
Man up and quit denying your obvious error.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Show me a source, any source, that has measured the amount of lead contamination at ANY airport? Other than NORMAL background lead contamination, they can not find ANY!!!
I cited four studies Rougie, are you still in denial?
wojar wrote:
The ignorant LMAO twins seem unaware that environmental scientists know how to conduct a properly controlled study. Does anyone really believe an environmental scientist experienced in the field of lead is not aware of lead paint in old houses? No one except the LMAO twins and a few birfoons.
But Rouge insisted there were no such studies at all. Mr. expert in all things aviation, flat out wrong.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#197490 Aug 3, 2014
wojar wrote:
The ignorant LMAO twins seem unaware that environmental scientists know how to conduct a properly controlled study. Does anyone really believe an environmental scientist experienced in the field of lead is not aware of lead paint in old houses? No one except the LMAO twins and a few birfoons.
But Rouge insisted there were no such studies at all. Mr. expert in all things aviation, flat out wrong.
LMAO!!! Dick!!! How does your ass taste, since it has been handed to you, raw!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#197491 Aug 3, 2014
chow y'all!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197492 Aug 3, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Dick, now we are talking, O'Hare had nothing to do with blood levels!!! The biggest mining of lead comes from Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma. Now which way does the wind blow over 50% of the year?
Dale is mindlessly blabbering again. The O'Hare airborne lead study and the North Carolina children's blood level study are two entirely different studies that Dufus Dale had confused. Both indicate that airports are a source of lead pollution that can affect human health.

BTW, lead mining in MO, KS, and OK is completely irrelevant. Most of Illinois doesn't have a lead problem. The lead observed is locally produced (O'Hare, H. Kramer & Co., Fisk coal fired plant). Ignorant and scientifically illiterate Dufus Dale is talking through his hat again.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
What is Dale blabbering about? The O'Hare study concerned airborne lead and had nothing to do with measured blood levels.
BTW, the study of children's blood levels took into account the age of housing resolved at the individual tax parcel level.
So Dufus is again FOS and shooting from the hip with blanks while wearing a blindfold.
Thanks for the laugh.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#197493 Aug 3, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Dick!!! How does your ass taste, since it has been handed to you, raw!!!
As Dale blabbers incoherently about lead mines in MO & KS as though they have something to do with airborne Pb in greater Chicago.

Delusional.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#197494 Aug 3, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale is mindlessly blabbering again. The O'Hare airborne lead study and the North Carolina children's blood level study are two entirely different studies that Dufus Dale had confused. Both indicate that airports are a source of lead pollution that can affect human health.
BTW, lead mining in MO, KS, and OK is completely irrelevant. Most of Illinois doesn't have a lead problem. The lead observed is locally produced (O'Hare, H. Kramer & Co., Fisk coal fired plant). Ignorant and scientifically illiterate Dufus Dale is talking through his hat again.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Dick, you got hammered!!! Now ride your own ass around for awhile and bless the methane..
So the lead doesn't come O'Hare, you are hammered, again!!!
Do you want to go three for three!!!! LMAO!!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#197495 Aug 3, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
As Dale blabbers incoherently about lead mines in MO & KS as though they have something to do with airborne Pb in greater Chicago.
Delusional.
Dick, you just know when to stop, do you!!! Of course keep it up, we all enjoy the laugh, after all this thread is supposed to be for the enjoyment, and you are very funny!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#197496 Aug 3, 2014
Oh, looks like I left out the "don't" in my last post, sorry.

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