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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#195808 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>No, but you can for high crimes and misdemeanors and unlike Bill Clinton you can not blame Monica Lewinsky unless Lois Learner was also giving Pres. Obama lip service too.

Oh, you are not getting worried about the IRS thing, are you? Remember, Nixon only talked about using the IRS to get back at his political enemies!!!!
No. I'm not worried at all. The process will play out and the system will ultimately work.

Are you worried that Boehner will never decide what his lawsuit is about?

“impeach now replace later”

Since: Sep 09

Dump Trump now

#195809 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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So these people who were born between 1946 and 1964 (18 yeas) all retired between 2008 and 2014 (five years)? I don't think so!!!
On average 250,000 "baby boomers" reach the age of 65 each month.
http://www.pfaclient.com/2014/06/baby-boomers...

"Baby Boomers" is the largest generation in the workforce by age representing 38% of the entire USA workforce. Generation X (persons born between 1966-1980) account for 32% of the workforce and Generation Y/Millennial (persons born between 1980-2000) accont for 25% of the workforce. Those person born prior to 1946 account for 5% of the work force.
http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/generations...

Furthermore, even though the Baby Boomers account for 38% of the workforce, this generation is only 26.4% of the entire USA population. In other words, the Baby Boomers account for over a third of the workforce but only is a quarter of the total population in the USA which means that the Baby Boomers are over represented in the workforce and when they retire the next generation doesn't have the numbers to replace the retiring Baby Boomers.
http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/generations...

As of March 2012 there were 59 million Baby Boomers in the workforce and there were 49 million Generation X in the workforce. That means there are not enough Generation X in the workforce to replace retiring Baby Boomers. For every five retired Baby Boomers there are only 4 Generation X as replacements.
http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/generations...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#195810 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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No, and you know it. Obama's agenda is to turn America into a European-style Socialistic system.
We all know that the Heritage Foundation is secretly commie, and that's why they proposed the Heritage Plan. If you scrutinize the evidence, the bread crumbs will lead to Heritage! Yup, they had the three wise men show up at the African hut and convinced his momma to smuggle him back into the States so he could implement SOCIALISM.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#195811 Jul 14, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
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No. I'm not worried at all. The process will play out and the system will ultimately work.
Are you worried that Boehner will never decide what his lawsuit is about?
Boehner will figure out the charge after having three bottles of Merlot and a pack of cigarettes the night before the suit is filed.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#195812 Jul 14, 2014
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
On average 250,000 "baby boomers" reach the age of 65 each month.
http://www.pfaclient.com/2014/06/baby-boomers...
"Baby Boomers" is the largest generation in the workforce by age representing 38% of the entire USA workforce. Generation X (persons born between 1966-1980) account for 32% of the workforce and Generation Y/Millennial (persons born between 1980-2000) accont for 25% of the workforce. Those person born prior to 1946 account for 5% of the work force.
http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/generations...
Furthermore, even though the Baby Boomers account for 38% of the workforce, this generation is only 26.4% of the entire USA population. In other words, the Baby Boomers account for over a third of the workforce but only is a quarter of the total population in the USA which means that the Baby Boomers are over represented in the workforce and when they retire the next generation doesn't have the numbers to replace the retiring Baby Boomers.
http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/generations...
As of March 2012 there were 59 million Baby Boomers in the workforce and there were 49 million Generation X in the workforce. That means there are not enough Generation X in the workforce to replace retiring Baby Boomers. For every five retired Baby Boomers there are only 4 Generation X as replacements.
http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/generations...
Oops, Finch is using math again. Rougie will screw it up beautifully.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#195813 Jul 14, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Boehner will figure out the charge after having three bottles of Merlot and a pack of cigarettes the night before the suit is filed.
Perhaps he should watch Blazing Saddles with Rouge. That way Rouge could keep up with the dialogue and Boehner could learn how to express his "issues" with the POTUS

“impeach now replace later”

Since: Sep 09

Dump Trump now

#195814 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
If that were so, why was the LPR 67.2% in Jan. 2001 when Bush entered office and 65.7% when he left office which is a drop of only 1.5% in eight years whereas it dropped to 62.8%(a drop of 2.9%) by Dec. 2013 in only five years???
Now, what happens if it starts to go up after Obummer Boys leaves office?
When Bush entered office in 2001 the oldest Baby Boomer (born 1946) was 54 years old.
When Bush left office in 2009 that same Baby Boomer was 62 years old. By 2013, Baby Boomers who were born between 1946 and 1948 have reach the age of 65 and over and 250,000 Baby Boomers are reaching the age of 65 each month.

What will happen after January 2017? According to economists who have studied LPR and aging workforce, they concluded that the LPR will continue to decline due to reduction of the baby boomers in the workforce.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/pdf/...
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~buell/References/Burea...

“impeach now replace later”

Since: Sep 09

Dump Trump now

#195815 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, and you know it. Obama's agenda is to turn America into a European-style Socialistic system.
Socialistic system? You mean child labor laws, social security, women suffrage, Civil Rights laws and minimum wage laws?

Where in the Constitution does it state what kind of economic system that we shall have?
Obskeptic

Livonia, MI

#195816 Jul 14, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
For you, Obskeptic :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_V...
Canada and the Vietnam War
American war resisters in Canada[edi
See also: War resister

Starting in 1965, Canada became a choice haven for American draft dodgers and deserters. Because they were not formally classified as refugees but were admitted as immigrants, there is no official estimate of how many draft dodgers and deserters were admitted to Canada during the Vietnam War. One informed estimate puts their number between 30,000 and 40,000.[8] Whether or not this estimate is accurate, the fact remains that emigration from the United States was high as long as America was involved militarily in the war and maintained compulsory military service; in 1971 and 1972 Canada received more immigrants from the United States than from any other country.[8]
Draft dodgers[edit]
Five young people sitting and talking intently
Mark Satin (left) counseling American Vietnam War evaders at the Anti-Draft Programme office in Toronto, 1967.
Estimates vary greatly as to how many Americans settled in Canada for the specific reason of dodging the draft or "evading conscription," as opposed to desertion, or other reasons. Canadian immigration statistics show that 20,000 to 30,000 draft-eligible American men came to Canada as immigrants during the Vietnam era. The BBC stated that "as many as 60,000 young American men dodged the draft."[10] Estimates of the total number of American citizens who moved to Canada due to their opposition to the war range from 50,000 to 125,000[11] This exodus was "the largest politically motivated migration from the United States since the United Empire Loyalists moved north to oppose the American Revolution."[12] Major communities of war resisters formed in Montreal, the Slocan Valley, British Columbia, and on Baldwin Street in Toronto, Ontario.
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So, turns out I was wrong. Number is more like 30,000, almost as many as today's Central American refugees. And, not to forget, our population at that time was less than 31 million, a 10th of yours. We had to absorb a large number but hell, we got the cream of the crop.
And don't come back with the usual knee-jerk reaction, to wit, that draft dodgers or war resistors were traitors and cowards. The ensuing debacle proved them right and for that they'll never be forgiven. Being right is not always popular.
One last note : I agree with the war resistors and those that came to Canada. And surprise for you, I ALSO agree with those that stayed, served and risked their lives. True patriots taken advantage of by a gov't that declared war on a non-threatening country based on the fabricated Gulf of Tonkin incident. 58,000 brave men and women who died for nothing. Add almost a million wounded, some permanently.
Im glad to see you bring up the Tonkin Gulf lie Jacques, and I do not hold it against any of the young men that left the country for Canada during that time to avoid that mess. I may have done the same thing myself, and not because I'm a coward by any means. Im not a fan of our buttinsky nature as a country.
As for the Central American exodus to our country, the New York Times reports the number is over 300,000 and growing by the day. Not only that, but our government was soliciting bids, or also known as RFI's, back in January for contracts with private companies to "escort" these illegals to destinations throughout the country, informed our Border Patrol that they would no longer detain and deport anyone coming across the border, and solicited for the purchase of over 50K pairs of cotton mens briefs (not children's sizes).

http://www.redstate.com/diary/checkmate2012/2...

This whole thing is well planned Jacques. Just one component of the presidents stated plan to remake America, none of which is making us a stronger nation.

Since: May 10

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#195817 Jul 14, 2014
Oh wow, now they claim that Climate Change (Global Warming) causes kidney stones. My understanding is that you keep yourself properly hydrated, this should not be a problem.
Sounds like fear tactics again!

Here’s Another Side Effect of Climate Change: Painful Kidney Stones
By Kristina Bravo | Takepart.com July 13, 2014 5:30 PM Takepart.com

Sun, 13 Jul 2014 14:15:48 PDT

We know that climate change is bad. Because of warmer temps panicked polar bears stand on melting icebergs with nowhere to go, and the Statue of Liberty might not even survive for future generations to see. Now it’s getting personal: A new study links a warmer climate with a greater chance of developing kidney stones, an agonizing affliction.

“We found that as daily temperatures rise, there is a rapid increase in probability of patients presenting over the next 20 days with kidney stones,” said author Gregory E. Tasian of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, according to CityLab.

The researchers, who published their paper in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, examined 60,433 patients in Los Angeles, Atlanta, Chicago, and other U.S. cities. They concluded that experiencing more hot days—when temperatures hit 81 degrees or higher—could lead to an increased risk of growing a kidney stone.

Since: May 10

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#195818 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, and you know it. Obama's agenda is to turn America into a European-style Socialistic system.
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
Socialistic system? You mean child labor laws, social security, women suffrage, Civil Rights laws and minimum wage laws?
Where in the Constitution does it state what kind of economic system that we shall have?
As you know there are degrees of Socialism. Please note I said "European-style Socialism". We have not been a purely capitalized system in over one hundred years.
I just bought a gas can with the new EPA nozzle and it is difficult for me to operate much less a weaker person or one with a lower IQ/CQ. My best guess people will drill a few holes in it defeating it's purpose. The EPA, like OSHA, did a lot of good work in the first few decades but it is now making up things to fix and is counter productive

“impeach now replace later”

Since: Sep 09

Dump Trump now

#195819 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And when Reagan was in office the LPR went from 63.9% in Jan 1981 to 66.5% in Jan. 1989 which was a GAIN of 2.6%!!!
Oh course, anything after Jimmy "The Peanut Man" Carter wood be an improvement!
First the math. The percentage difference between 63.9% and 66.5% is 4% not 2.6%. In other words, 66.5 is 4% greater than 63.9

When Reagan was in office in 1981, the youngest baby boomer (born 1946) was 15 years old. When Reagan left the office in 1989, the yougest baby boomer was 23 years old.

In 1981, the labor force was 108 million. By 1989 the labor force was 123 million. An increase of 13.8% in the labor force in eight years.

In Bush's first year in 2001 the labor force was 143 million and in 2009 the labor force was 154 million. An increase of 7.6% in the labor force in eight years.
http://www.nidataplus.com/lfeus1.htm#annl

The differance in the addition of people in the labor force beween Reagan's years (1981-1989) and Bush's years (2001-2009) is 81%. In other words, there was an increase of 81% more people in the labor force under Reagan than under Bush for the simple reason that the youngest baby boomer was already 46 years old (born 1964) by the first year in Bush's administration (2001) and that the next generation (Generation X) doesn't have the numbers to replace Baby Boomers.
paddyomalley

Bastrop, TX

#195820 Jul 14, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Misuse of office is not a crime. But Obstruction of Justice is and that was the primary charge against both Nixon and Clinton.
Oh, nowhere in the charges does it mention Monica Lewinsky or a BJ!!!
<quoted text>
See, no mention of Monica much less a BJ
I understand and I used "misuse of office" as a broad general term. His decisions to not enforce Constitutional laws, legally passed under the Constitution, and signed into law is not faithfully executing the office of president, nor is he performing to the best of his ability to preserve, protect, or defend the Constitution by ignoring the laws of the land. I believe he can be legally held accountable for many breeches of law and the Constitution, but it is possible the best action is no action and let history grind him up.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States".
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#195821 Jul 14, 2014
As far as I know, no one has seen an original document from Obama, on anything! He's quickly running out of friends, though, and that will sink him. The tide has shifted. ROLL TIDE!

Since: May 10

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#195824 Jul 15, 2014
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
First the math. The percentage difference between 63.9% and 66.5% is 4% not 2.6%. In other words, 66.5 is 4% greater than 63.9
When Reagan was in office in 1981, the youngest baby boomer (born 1946) was 15 years old. When Reagan left the office in 1989, the yougest baby boomer was 23 years old.
In 1981, the labor force was 108 million. By 1989 the labor force was 123 million. An increase of 13.8% in the labor force in eight years.
In Bush's first year in 2001 the labor force was 143 million and in 2009 the labor force was 154 million. An increase of 7.6% in the labor force in eight years.
http://www.nidataplus.com/lfeus1.htm#annl
The differance in the addition of people in the labor force beween Reagan's years (1981-1989) and Bush's years (2001-2009) is 81%. In other words, there was an increase of 81% more people in the labor force under Reagan than under Bush for the simple reason that the youngest baby boomer was already 46 years old (born 1964) by the first year in Bush's administration (2001) and that the next generation (Generation X) doesn't have the numbers to replace Baby Boomers.
I understand you math but I disagree. There are the retiring baby boomers but what percent are over 70 years old? NONE!!!! The LPR is based on people between 16 and 70 years old and the oldest Baby Boomer is ..... 68!!!
Many people want to work for as long as they can. I know the Silvermans who run Raven Transport. They could have retired a decade ago but Raven is their baby and they take care of the baby, They provide jobs, take care of customers, etc.
June Maule ran Maule Air until she died at age 92 in 2009. I met her several times. You would almost think she was the company's receptionist but she did it all and was a gracious woman. B.D. Maule chose his wife correctly.
June Maule
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
June De Etta Maule
Born January 1, 1917
Died May 10, 2009 (aged 92)
Nationality American
Known for Maule Air
Spouse(s) Belford D. Maule

June D. Maule (1917 - October 29, 2009) was an American businesswoman. Maule was the owner and manager of Maule Air, a manufacturer of light, single-engined STOL (Short Take-Off and Landing) aircraft headquartered in Moultrie, Georgia.
Life

June Aderhold was born in Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania. She married her husband, Belford D. Maule (1911–1995), in 1934. The couple remained together both in marriage and as business partners until his death in 1995.
Oh, my Maule can do anything a Cessna 182 can do, only better. This is a Maule M-5-235.

Piper Super Cubs are the Jeeps of the bush and the Maules are the SUVs of the bush.

Since: May 10

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#195825 Jul 15, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, and you know it. Obama's agenda is to turn America into a European-style Socialistic system.
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
Socialistic system? You mean child labor laws, social security, women suffrage, Civil Rights laws and minimum wage laws?
Where in the Constitution does it state what kind of economic system that we shall have?
Progressivism means to progress! Progressives think people, except for themselves, are too stupid to take care of themselves so they must DICTATE a person's life from cradle to grave.
Again, except for the 1% who think they are smart enough to take care of themselves.
Progressivism
Progressivism is a broad political philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advances in science, technology, economic development, and social organization can improve the human condition.

Since: May 10

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#195826 Jul 15, 2014
To Liberals this is not about the code of conduct she signed but because she married another woman. Hint, it you want to live as a lesbian, go some place that you do not have to sign a code of conduct.
Why do Liberalks always have to force their opinions on others?

Student: Expelled from college after gay marriage
Associated Press
By KEN MILLER 9 hours ago
Minard admitted that she violated her signed student conduct code, known as a lifestyle principal, which prohibits homosexual relationships. The code also includes prohibitions on smoking, drinking, cheating, premarital sex, discrimination, harassment and profanity.
http://news.yahoo.com/student-expelled-colleg...

Since: May 10

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#195827 Jul 15, 2014
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
First the math. The percentage difference between 63.9% and 66.5% is 4% not 2.6%. In other words, 66.5 is 4% greater than 63.9
When Reagan was in office in 1981, the youngest baby boomer (born 1946) was 15 years old. When Reagan left the office in 1989, the yougest baby boomer was 23 years old.
In 1981, the labor force was 108 million. By 1989 the labor force was 123 million. An increase of 13.8% in the labor force in eight years.
In Bush's first year in 2001 the labor force was 143 million and in 2009 the labor force was 154 million. An increase of 7.6% in the labor force in eight years.
http://www.nidataplus.com/lfeus1.htm#annl
Yep, and the size of our labor force today is 155.694M and in Jan. 2009 it was ....154.201M. So while the size of our labor force has gone up, the number of people who are participating has DROPPED. And the reason why it has dropped is that after looking for work year after year and not finding any, many people have just given up!!!
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost

Since: May 10

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#195828 Jul 15, 2014
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
First the math. The percentage difference between 63.9% and 66.5% is 4% not 2.6%. In other words, 66.5 is 4% greater than 63.9
When Reagan was in office in 1981, the youngest baby boomer (born 1946) was 15 years old. When Reagan left the office in 1989, the yougest baby boomer was 23 years old.
In 1981, the labor force was 108 million. By 1989 the labor force was 123 million. An increase of 13.8% in the labor force in eight years.
In Bush's first year in 2001 the labor force was 143 million and in 2009 the labor force was 154 million. An increase of 7.6% in the labor force in eight years.
http://www.nidataplus.com/lfeus1.htm#annl
Hummm Mr. Finch. Why did you NOT include the CURRENT Labor Force number. Is it because it would buck your OPINION and upset your argument?!?
Oh, how lame!!!

Since: May 10

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#195829 Jul 15, 2014
Oh, and Mr. Finch forgot one very important piece of data. Yes, our procreation rates have dropped since the Baby Boom of 1946-64 but we still have immigrants and their average age is not above 70, is it!!!!

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