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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#189773 May 1, 2014
Facts:

By 1947,'Oral' had delivered 1000 demon-possessed sinners, 3000 sermons, and 10,000 babies, sowing his seed across half a dozen continents. He was ready for even bigger, bolder... more silly things.

Founding the 'Oral' Roberts Universe in Tulsa, Oklahoma, he offered such courses in Christian conduct as...

Praying for the Riches of Religious Fervor.
Opening the Treasuries of Heaven.
Fundamentals of Tax-Free Faith.
The Use of LSD and Peyote to Incite Christian Visions.

In 1980, Roberts was visited by a 900-foot-tall smiling Jesus, who announced that he was ďwell pleasedĒ with Robertsí faithful works. Then, transformed himself into a 648-foot-tall, Triune skyscraper.

Jesus said,ďLo, I shall become the City of Faith Medical and Research Center, the largest health facility of my kind in the world and, in me, shall prayer merge with medicine in the healing process.Ē In 1981, the City of Faith was in operation!

In 1989, it closed its doors, Jesus, having changed his mind, deciding to transform the site into an office building.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#189774 May 1, 2014
Predictable FOX wrote:
Does anyone else find it funny the prediction a couple of days ago Fox would start endless Benghazi coverage after FOX patriot and hero Clive Bundy's racist rant?
How can they be that predictable and still have even one viewer? Are you Fox nutjobs really that blind?
Where were the Benghazi stories all of last week?
Why now?
The very day Bundy gets caught, Fox,(who had just dedicated 24 hours a day to him for a whole week), mysteriously doesn't even mention him once for an entire 9 hours, then scrambles to find new Benghazi stories. And you zombies still follow without question.
Today:
Fox News.com front page story - Benghazi
Fox Nation.com front page story - Benghazi
Fox New Channel leading stories for all programing - Benghazi
And the funniest thing about it all is that it was 100% predicted.
Think about that,(that is, if you right wingers are even capable of independent thought), the next time you post Fox links as confirmation for your extraordinary fables.
Or was it because there is another Benghazi Congressional hearing going on this morning.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#189775 May 1, 2014
Hmmm, Glenn Beck is in LA and yesterday afternoon he had a closed door meeting with two CIA agents. The topix was not released but speculation is that it was about the Benghazi cover-up.
During the meeting hotel security busted into the meeting room twice saying there was a text message that said someone in the room needed help. Sounds like Obama is getting very worried as there are many in the CIA who want to talk about what really happened at Benghazi.
Yep, you Libtards are very worried about the truth. Why? Because you can not handle the truth!!!
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#189777 May 1, 2014
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>We haven't had any other White House occupant that were the son of a foreigner.....
Actually, we have had SEVEN. We've even had a president with TWO foreign parents. However, the fact remains that regardless of whether that president was before or after the grandfather clause, his having TWO foreign parents did not make him disloyal. He was Andrew Jackson.

The seven presidents who have had foreign parents were:

Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
James Buchanan
Chester A. Arthur
Woodrow Wilson
Herbert Hoover
Obama.

Of these two fell under the grandfather clause, Jefferson and Jackson.

As to the others, the ones who were not under the grandfather clause:

Birthers claim that James Buchananís father was naturalized before his birth. Unfortunately for them, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. No evidence at all.

Birthers claim that Chester A. Arthur hid the fact that his father was not a US citizen. Unfortunately for them, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. There is no evidence that Chester A. Arthur kept his fatherís citizenship secret. So, it is likely that people knew about it when he was picked to run as Garfieldís vice president.

And Wilsonís and Hooverís mothers were foreign citizens.

Birthers say that they had been naturalized before the births. But, actually, they were only made US citizens due to laws that made women who married US men automatically US citizens. That is hardly the same thing as being naturalized, in which you have to give up your citizenship in the foreign country and swear an oath. Because Woodrow Wilsonís mother never formally gave up her British citizenship, Woodrow was, at birth, a dual citizen.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#189778 May 1, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hmmm, Glenn Beck is in LA and yesterday afternoon he had a closed door meeting with two CIA agents. The topix was not released but speculation is that it was about the Benghazi cover-up.
During the meeting hotel security busted into the meeting room twice saying there was a text message that said someone in the room needed help. Sounds like Obama is getting very worried as there are many in the CIA who want to talk about what really happened at Benghazi.
Yep, you Libtards are very worried about the truth. Why? Because you can not handle the truth!!!
"Speculation?"

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that Romney is our next president. Already bought my dancing shoes"; Er, oops.

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that(insert name here.......) will be elected mayor of Jacksonville. A sure bet. " Oops. Damn media and polls, they misled me. Now 'what's-his-name is holding a patronage position in Florida Tea party administration. Rogue Scholar : "Republicans NEVER give patronage appointments. Only Democrats do that". Suuuuuure.

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that Chief Justice Roberts, the moment he received the Obamacare challenge, decided to rule against said Obamacare" Oops "Oh, wouldn't you kn know it, Obama bought him off "

Rogue Scholar : " The DJIA will crash in Sept 2012, November 2012, fall of 2014, spring of 2014". Oh oh, DJIA hit record high yesterday. Rogue Scholar : "Not my fault , I was misled by my broker", Oops, DJIA down 4 points today. Damn Obama. Can't anyone stop him?

Rogue Scholar : "At his first inauguration in Jan 2008, Obama had a closed-door meeting with Chief Justice Roberts. No one knows exactly what went on, but Roberts was probably threatened if he refused to swear him in on account of his B.C. forgery". Oops, Roberts must have been threatened oftentimes (again for the 2nd inauguration and on Obamacare)

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that truckers will invade Washington".

ETC ETC

Can I continue? This is fun.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#189779 May 1, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, we have had SEVEN. We've even had a president with TWO foreign parents. However, the fact remains that regardless of whether that president was before or after the grandfather clause, his having TWO foreign parents did not make him disloyal. He was Andrew Jackson.
The seven presidents who have had foreign parents were:
Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
James Buchanan
Chester A. Arthur
Woodrow Wilson
Herbert Hoover
Obama.
Of these two fell under the grandfather clause, Jefferson and Jackson.
As to the others, the ones who were not under the grandfather clause:
Birthers claim that James Buchananís father was naturalized before his birth. Unfortunately for them, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. No evidence at all.
Birthers claim that Chester A. Arthur hid the fact that his father was not a US citizen. Unfortunately for them, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. There is no evidence that Chester A. Arthur kept his fatherís citizenship secret. So, it is likely that people knew about it when he was picked to run as Garfieldís vice president.
And Wilsonís and Hooverís mothers were foreign citizens.
Birthers say that they had been naturalized before the births. But, actually, they were only made US citizens due to laws that made women who married US men automatically US citizens. That is hardly the same thing as being naturalized, in which you have to give up your citizenship in the foreign country and swear an oath. Because Woodrow Wilsonís mother never formally gave up her British citizenship, Woodrow was, at birth, a dual citizen.
Throwing FACTS at Frank, Ellen? Why?
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#189780 May 1, 2014
Obama's " regime change" done in west Ukraine will be overturned.

As Obama doing regime change in west Ukraine has resulted unstoppable clashes which have killed lives, it is over for Obama by now.

Yet, Obama is too ill to know that secession of Crimea in the aftermath of Obama conducting regime change is called annexation by US because it has become everybody's say upon regime change.

Obama has to face up to it by doing another Bush by conducting the Bush's "regime change" thing as if anther Iraq by backing the outcome of coup for regime change in West Ukraine, which gives rise to this -- Now that Nazi-Kiev crashes with Protesters in Ukraine, it is all over for west Ukraine.

East Ukraine people have more ammunition by taking over police quarters, that it is rising that will escalate to penetrate to West Ukraine, for there will be shootouts with Nazi-Ukraine, while Russian invasion on the other side of west Ukraine is inevitable.

The regime change representative is being called as an ACTING puppet as the false acting REPRESENTATIVE OF US having won no approval from people, is being entangled by people of Ukraine.

It is time for Obama to pray if Obama does not dare to have showdown with Putin AND the Eastern Europeans in Ukraine and Russia, by doing another Bush by doing the Bush's "regime change" thing like Iraq by backing the orchestration of coup for regime change in West Ukraine, which is the situation of people uprising by fighting against US having done the materializing of "regime change".

US and NATO getting close to Black Sea and the Baltics, are bound to be shot away from Russian military, drilling and waiting to do just that.

As Obama goes to Pacific ASIA TO MAKE TENSIONS TO NORTH KOREA and China, China's military is drilling at borders of South Korea, ready to join North Korea to beat US away , as if this is the WW2 revival, US will be facing showdowns with North Korea and China in Asia and Russia in Europe.
Obama has done making all the troubles and damages to come as US is taking .

Since: May 10

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#189781 May 1, 2014
Idiots who voted for Obama

Since: May 10

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#189782 May 1, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
"Speculation?"
Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that Romney is our next president. Already bought my dancing shoes"; Er, oops.
Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that(insert name here.......) will be elected mayor of Jacksonville. A sure bet. " Oops. Damn media and polls, they misled me. Now 'what's-his-name is holding a patronage position in Florida Tea party administration. Rogue Scholar : "Republicans NEVER give patronage appointments. Only Democrats do that". Suuuuuure.
Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that Chief Justice Roberts, the moment he received the Obamacare challenge, decided to rule against said Obamacare" Oops "Oh, wouldn't you kn know it, Obama bought him off "
Rogue Scholar : " The DJIA will crash in Sept 2012, November 2012, fall of 2014, spring of 2014". Oh oh, DJIA hit record high yesterday. Rogue Scholar : "Not my fault , I was misled by my broker", Oops, DJIA down 4 points today. Damn Obama. Can't anyone stop him?
Rogue Scholar : "At his first inauguration in Jan 2008, Obama had a closed-door meeting with Chief Justice Roberts. No one knows exactly what went on, but Roberts was probably threatened if he refused to swear him in on account of his B.C. forgery". Oops, Roberts must have been threatened oftentimes (again for the 2nd inauguration and on Obamacare)
Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that truckers will invade Washington".
ETC ETC
Can I continue? This is fun.
No, but can you show us just one of those specializations you accused me of?
By the way, I specifically said there would be no meaningful trucker strike or parade in Washington DC!!!
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#189783 May 1, 2014
US sanctions to Russia are unworkable but will harm itself and are harming other European economies, as they depend on Russia energy supplies and markets .

Sanctions from US benefit Russia and harms US and EU in the long run.

This immediate few-week period of sanctions shows no general effect to Russia although there was the dip of Russian stock market and currency, so were those happening to US lots of times before, with no country doing sanctions to US, as US did have subtraction economies for 2 quarters during Bush late period.
Russian economy was already slowing before sanctions, just like China, as China's slowing affects Russia economy as slowing before US sanctions., not because of US sanctions .

US sanctions to Russia might gear up the Russian economy , as it might beef up the growth to more than 2.8% from previous slowing expectation of just 2% this year.

Russian economy was already slowing before sanctions, just like China.

The outflow of assets from China is the largest than that of Russia, so also there is US outflow, not because of US sanctions.

If Russia can extend its economy beyond being the energy supply economy, Russia's economy will be steady growth to stretch to be more than 2.9% next year.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#189784 May 1, 2014
It is a big joke by still taking about US as if it is a Superpower these days.

US and NATO militaries cannot defend Russia's military attacks as this is the second stage of Russian military which has extended these days to focus on US and NATO movements, away from those days building the most numbers of strategic missiles when US was withdrawing of ICBM treaty.

Education improvement, middle class enlargement (especially from China), per capita income and many areas as well of other nations , are rising that beat US easily.

When world populations rise and expand, US becomes weaker in most areas, from economy to military that US is ineffective to conduct policies.



Facts are seen as such that Sanctions from US benefit Russia and do harms to US and EU in the long run.

Since the emerging world economy does better, US sanctions to Russia might gear up the Russian economy , as it might beef up the growth to more than 2.8% from previous slowing expectation of just 2% this year.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#189785 May 1, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, we have had SEVEN. We've even had a president with TWO foreign parents. However, the fact remains that regardless of whether that president was before or after the grandfather clause, his having TWO foreign parents did not make him disloyal. He was Andrew Jackson.
The seven presidents who have had foreign parents were:
Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
James Buchanan
Chester A. Arthur
Woodrow Wilson
Herbert Hoover
Obama.
Of these two fell under the grandfather clause, Jefferson and Jackson.
As to the others, the ones who were not under the grandfather clause:
Birthers claim that James Buchananís father was naturalized before his birth. Unfortunately for them, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. No evidence at all.
Birthers claim that Chester A. Arthur hid the fact that his father was not a US citizen. Unfortunately for them, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. There is no evidence that Chester A. Arthur kept his fatherís citizenship secret. So, it is likely that people knew about it when he was picked to run as Garfieldís vice president.
And Wilsonís and Hooverís mothers were foreign citizens.
Birthers say that they had been naturalized before the births. But, actually, they were only made US citizens due to laws that made women who married US men automatically US citizens. That is hardly the same thing as being naturalized, in which you have to give up your citizenship in the foreign country and swear an oath. Because Woodrow Wilsonís mother never formally gave up her British citizenship, Woodrow was, at birth, a dual citizen.
LMAO!!! Make of it what you want, but there wasn't a national law on citizenship prior to Apr. 9th, 1866, if you were a citizen of a state then you were a citizen of the United States.

WOODROW WILSON

Born December 28, 1856 - the 28th President, born in Staunton, Virginia.

Wilsonís mother was from Carlisle, England. His father was a US citizen from Ohio. Wilsonís mother gained US citizenship when she married his father according to a congressional Act of February 1855, which stated,

ďany woman who might lawfully be naturalized under existing laws, married, or shall be married to a citizen of the United States, shall be deemed and taken to be a citizen.Ē[Act of February 10, 1855, 10 Stat. 604, section 2]

This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens.

HERBERT HOOVER
Hoover was born in Iowa, 1874. He was the 31st President. His father Jesse was from Ohio, a US citizen. His mother Hulda Minthorn was from Ontario, Canada. They were married in 1870. According to the 1855 act, which was in effect until 1922, Hooverís mother became a US citizen automatically when she married Jesse.
So, Hoover was born in the US, both parents were citizens - natural born citizen.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#189786 May 1, 2014
Re: "This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens."

Answer: Neither she nor Herbert Hoover's mother ever took an oath of allegiance to the USA, nor did they pass a citizenship test. And they did not give up their foreign citizen status. They were only "derivative " citizens, not real citizens.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#189787 May 1, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but can you show us just one of those specializations you accused me of?
By the way, I specifically said there would be no meaningful trucker strike or parade in Washington DC!!!
I see your reading skills have not improved. Here it is again, read, ONE BY ONE. And oh, it's "speculation", not "specialization".

"Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>

"Speculation?"

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that Romney is our next president. Already bought my dancing shoes"; Er, oops.

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that(insert name here.......) will be elected mayor of Jacksonville. A sure bet. " Oops. Damn media and polls, they misled me. Now 'what's-his-name is holding a patronage position in Florida Tea party administration. Rogue Scholar : "Republicans NEVER give patronage appointments. Only Democrats do that". Suuuuuure.

Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that Chief Justice Roberts, the moment he received the Obamacare challenge, decided to rule against said Obamacare" Oops "Oh, wouldn't you kn know it, Obama bought him off "

Rogue Scholar : " The DJIA will crash in Sept 2012, November 2012, fall of 2013, spring of 2014". Oh oh, DJIA hit record high yesterday. Rogue Scholar : "Not my fault , I was misled by my broker", Oops, DJIA down 4 points today. Damn Obama. Can't anyone stop him?
Rogue Scholar : "At his first inauguration in Jan 2008, Obama had a closed-door meeting with Chief Justice Roberts. No one knows exactly what went on, but Roberts was probably threatened if he refused to swear him in on account of his B.C. forgery". Oops, Roberts must have been threatened oftentimes (again for the 2nd inauguration and on Obamacare)
Rogue Scholar : "It is my speculation that truckers will invade Washington".
ETC ETC

Can I continue? This is fun."
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#189788 May 1, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
"Dear Hairy,
Me again!(Lil Romper, Col.- Elitia)
Pfft!
Hah - I'll bet that's the first time anyone ever sent you an email stink bomb!
I warned you!!! Surrender Dorothy!"
You ate too much Jello as a child.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#189789 May 1, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens."
Answer: Neither she nor Herbert Hoover's mother ever took an oath of allegiance to the USA, nor did they pass a citizenship test. And they did not give up their foreign citizen status. They were only "derivative " citizens, not real citizens.
LMAO!!! I see you are having a hard time understanding what you read.
Nothing you .post changes the fact, Obama was born a citizen of his father's country of origin, which made him subject to a foreign power and not eligible to be "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", unless naturalized.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#189790 May 1, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens."
Answer: Neither she nor Herbert Hoover's mother ever took an oath of allegiance to the USA, nor did they pass a citizenship test. And they did not give up their foreign citizen status. They were only "derivative " citizens, not real citizens.
"derived" citizen NOT a "real citizen"? Try and read the law there Tootsie.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#189792 May 1, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Idiots who voted for Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =e_JJLLfTR8IXX
What a bunch of crap Rogue. The video was obviously choreographed. You don't get a bunch of idiots who don't have a clue about any politician then suddenly everyone of them know all the particulars about one. It just does not happen dude.

This is they way it's supposed to be done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#189793 May 1, 2014
Jacques,
Cocaine is Ronald Reagan's middle name.
________

"One picture is worth one thousand denials"

Ronald Cocaine Reagan
Dale

Wichita, KS

#189794 May 1, 2014
What is Obama going to do about Ukaine? Not a damn thing!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/world/europ...

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