BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#188863 Apr 18, 2014
What ever a Natural Born Citizen is it must be something that doesn't have any foreign influence, questionable allegiance, foreign attachments and not subject to any foreign power, you can't say that about a Naturalized or Dual citizen.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#188864 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You tell that to the British Nationality Act of 1948, or the Kenyan Constitution of 1963, and while you are telling them that, you tell the US government that all of the children born out of limits of the US to US parents that their child must be naturalized to become a US citizen.
Do you really think the US is the only nation that has the ability to claim its citizens, you are barking up the wrong tree.
It is impossible to control dual-citizenship, unless one follows the intent of the 14th amendment.
LMAO!!! Looks like I just killed your mockingbird.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#188866 Apr 18, 2014
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>And they kept repeating the fable long after it was obvious the state only issued short form BC’s. The assumption I suppose was that no one from the state of Hawaii could get a passport, join the little league or get SS.

The birfoon has always been nuts and Rogue has the nerve to ask others to use their brain when all his brain does is imagine impossible Obama birth scenarios instead of dealing with certified facts.
Rouge tried a fact once but he didn't like it and sees no reason to try another

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188867 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Dumbass, how could Obama be a natural born citizen? A NBC isn't subject to any foreign power and we all know he was born a citizen of his father's country.
Then, wasn't Kissinger, a very influential inner circle presidential adviser/member, with much influence on U.S. foreign policy and, ergo, the president, be, in your own words "subject to any foreign power and we all know he was born a citizen of his father's country."

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188868 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You tell that to the British Nationality Act of 1948, or the Kenyan Constitution of 1963, and while you are telling them that, you tell the US government that all of the children born out of limits of the US to US parents that their child must be naturalized to become a US citizen.
Do you really think the US is the only nation that has the ability to claim its citizens, you are barking up the wrong tree.
It is impossible to control dual-citizenship, unless one follows the intent of the 14th amendment.
Er, aww, hmm, "Justice" ha ha, Dale, Obama was born in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188869 Apr 18, 2014
What the Associated Press does NOT tell you is that 100% of the mercury in these fish comes from NON-made-made sources. In fact about 90% of mercury contamination has nothing to do with man-kind.
Oh, they do mention mercury contamination form fossil-fuel use and production and use but fail to mention contamination from dentist who dump filling material down the drain, from florescent and mercury vapor lights that are improperly disposed of, from the improper disposal of batteries containing mercury (not including lead batteries) among other things.
The Liberal press constantly attacks fossil fuel sources while down play the 98% of the contamination from OTHER souses. WHY? Because they are Libtard BIGOTS!!!

Fish found with mercury in remote Western regions
Associated Press
By SCOTT SMITH 18 hours ago

FRESNO, Calif.(AP)— Federal scientists have found high amounts of mercury in fish caught in remote areas of national parks in the West and Alaska, according to a study released Thursday.

Researchers for the U.S. Geological Survey and National Park Service said that most fish they caught had acceptable levels of mercury, but 4 percent exceeded healthy levels.

Mercury occurs naturally, but scientists say its presence in national parks, which are supposed to leave wildlife unimpaired for future generations, was cause for concern.

http://news.yahoo.com/fish-found-mercury-remo...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188870 Apr 18, 2014
Dis you know until the past eight years diesel trucks did not produce carbon monoxide? But know they do because of afterburner particulate traps required by the EPA!!!
Yep, diesel vehicles contributed less than 0.1% of the micro-carbon particulate pollution and we are spending over $2 Billion each year to fix this "problem" only to cause a problem with carbon-monoxide that did not exist!!! Way to go EPA!!!
The EPA is running out of things to fix and way to many new fixes by the EPA actually actually cause more problems and poor money down the drain. Sad, very sad.

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#188871 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You tell that to the British Nationality Act of 1948, or the Kenyan Constitution of 1963, and while you are telling them that, you tell the US government that all of the children born out of limits of the US to US parents that their child must be naturalized to become a US citizen.
Do you really think the US is the only nation that has the ability to claim its citizens, you are barking up the wrong tree.
It is impossible to control dual-citizenship, unless one follows the intent of the 14th amendment.
The British Nationality Act of 1948 and the Kenyan Constitution of 1963 did not apply to Obama's status as a natural born citizen of the United States. The only time that British or Kenya laws regarding nationality or citizenship would be applicable to Obama would be IF he voluntarily subject himself to their provisions. The mere fact of being born to a Kenyan citizen or British subject in the Untied States doesn't make a child subject to the jurisdiction of either England or Kenya jurisdiction.

Again, if United States courts have recognized that foreign nations laws do not apply to their subjects or citizens who are outside the territorial boundaries of their jurisidction then it can be asserted that this same legal reasoning would apply to those children born in the United States to these same subjects or citizens. "Whatever may be the intrinsic or obligatory force of such laws upon such persons, if they should return to their native country, they can have none in other nations wherein they reside. Such laws may give rise to personal relations between the sovereign and subjects, to be enforced in his own domains; but they do not rightfully extend to other nations.” Rundell v. La Campagnie Generale Transatlantique, 100 Fed. 655, 660 (7th Cir. 1900)(quoting Justice Story, Commentaries of the Conflict of Laws (section 22)(1834)

As such, a foreign naton's laws have no legal force in the United States upon its subjects or citizens and their children born in the United States.
d pantz

Akron, OH

#188872 Apr 18, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Er, aww, hmm, "Justice" ha ha, Dale, Obama was born in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
You're right, it wouldn't change the fact that Democrats elected a guy with pretty much no voting record. Almost like he was kept purposely on the back burner so they could try to blame everything they voted for over the past fourteen years solely on bush.

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#188873 Apr 18, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Er, aww, hmm, "Justice" ha ha, Dale, Obama was born in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Applying "justice" Dale's logic, all children born to Mexican nationals in the United States are subject to Mexican laws in the United States. Translation: United States shares its sovereignty with Mexico within the boundaries of the United States regarding children born to Mexican nationals.

This is legally impossible. The United States Supreme Court observed: "The jurisdiction of the nation within its own territory is necessarily exclusive and absolute. Schooner Exchange v. McFaddon, 11 U.S. 116 , 136 (1812)

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188874 Apr 18, 2014
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>And they kept repeating the fable long after it was obvious the state only issued short form BC’s. The assumption I suppose was that no one from the state of Hawaii could get a passport, join the little league or get SS.

The birfoon has always been nuts and Rogue has the nerve to ask others to use their brain when all his brain does is imagine impossible Obama birth scenarios instead of dealing with certified facts.
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Rouge tried a fact once but he didn't like it and sees no reason to try another
Every document expert who are seen the "internet" copies have said the are forgeries, Dr. Fuddy has NEVER said that the internet copies are authentic but has only said the internet copies' "information" is correct which is not the same thing.
Why has Obama NEVER allowed to actually see and handle those document? Don't tell me he has as the only people he has allowed to see and hold them are loony-lefties and you can not prove it!!!

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#188875 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
What the Associated Press does NOT tell you is that 100% of the mercury in these fish comes from NON-made-made sources. In fact about 90% of mercury contamination has nothing to do with man-kind.
Oh, they do mention mercury contamination form fossil-fuel use and production and use but fail to mention contamination from dentist who dump filling material down the drain, from florescent and mercury vapor lights that are improperly disposed of, from the improper disposal of batteries containing mercury (not including lead batteries) among other things.
The Liberal press constantly attacks fossil fuel sources while down play the 98% of the contamination from OTHER souses. WHY? Because they are Libtard BIGOTS!!!
Fish found with mercury in remote Western regions
Associated Press
By SCOTT SMITH 18 hours ago
FRESNO, Calif.(AP)— Federal scientists have found high amounts of mercury in fish caught in remote areas of national parks in the West and Alaska, according to a study released Thursday.
Researchers for the U.S. Geological Survey and National Park Service said that most fish they caught had acceptable levels of mercury, but 4 percent exceeded healthy levels.
Mercury occurs naturally, but scientists say its presence in national parks, which are supposed to leave wildlife unimpaired for future generations, was cause for concern.
http://news.yahoo.com/fish-found-mercury-remo...
From the same article

Mercury occurs naturally from sources such as volcano eruptions, but pollution from burning fossil fuels is the leading contributor, the study said.

The results are not surprising because pollution in the atmosphere is a global problem, said Olson, adding that these findings call for a better understanding of how mercury is introduced into the remote corners of nature and the risks.

so burning fossil fuels releases mercury into the atmosphere. guess what, that means it goes everywhere.

NEWSFLASH everything occurs naturally

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188876 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you looked at the attachment it did not verify the "document" but the "information" which is not the same thing! Also there was no Kapiolani Maternity And Gynecological Hospital in 1961. It was know in 1961 as Kapi‘olani Maternity Home until 1978.
We have still never seen a copy of the ORIGINAL documents. The documents released by Obama are all computer generated copies.
Try engaging in the right side of your brain every now and then.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Then suppose the Nordyke Twins BC’s were faked as well since they were born at the same hospital that wasn’t there in 61.
https://tinyurl.com/95a5uj7
If the birfoon ever had a brain it certainly relies more on fancy than fact.
Both verifications state facts related to Barack Obama’s actual birth document which they say they have on file.
Those facts state that one Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu Hawaii at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and they have the original BC to prove it.
Of course it means you’ve seen a copy of the original. If you’ve seen your own BC all you’ve seen is a copy of the original.
Again you rely on your imagination when facts are readily available. It was actually Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital from 1931 til 1971.
https://tinyurl.com/naw9w5j
Keep dreaming the impossible dream Rogue, but know that each and every day you awake the real world will be right there to slap you right back to reality.
Have you "looked"at those BCs? I mean really look?!? The one on the left has dirt on it, both have a different boarder and even though they were about five years old when the copies where made, they look like copies of five year old documents.
Now, look at Obama's BC!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...
The document is flawless even though the NEW copy was made 50 years after the original was filed. There is no distinguishable border! WHY NOT???
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to see there are problems with it. And again, why has NO independent document expert ever been allowed to handle and examine this, so called, document?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188877 Apr 18, 2014
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
From the same article
Mercury occurs naturally from sources such as volcano eruptions, but pollution from burning fossil fuels is the leading contributor, the study said.
The results are not surprising because pollution in the atmosphere is a global problem, said Olson, adding that these findings call for a better understanding of how mercury is introduced into the remote corners of nature and the risks.
so burning fossil fuels releases mercury into the atmosphere. guess what, that means it goes everywhere.
NEWSFLASH everything occurs naturally
Ah, but does that article say how much of them mercury contamination is from man-made sources? NO!!!

And most man-made pollution comes to ground shortly after it goes up so how do you explain contamination in remote areas? Carbon dioxide says up until a plant absorbs it, but oxides of sulfur and nitrogen precipitate just as soon a "water vapor" hit it. Yep, acid rain comes down within a few hundred miles of it sources. Same with mercury.
Soooo, just how did that mercury contamination get in those REMOTE lakes?
You Libtards only get half-truths from the loony-lefty sources and you wonder why I call you Libtards!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188878 Apr 18, 2014
Yep, the more Liberal the government, the more corrupt it is!!!

Chicago police, Chicago Mag in combat over homicide stats

It doesn’t get much more explosive than this:

A Chicago Magazine year-long review of cases identified 10 people who were beaten, burned, suffocated or shot to death in 2013, but that weren’t counted in the Chicago police department’s official count of homicides by in the city.

Among them was a woman, Tiara Groves, whose rotting body was found, naked, in a vacant warehouse, a thin gag tied around her neck. Her body was found on the floor of the warehouse, brown wire draped over her right hand. Next to her was an arm chair, and the same wire was wrapped around each arm. Her mother told the magazine that the police initially told her that her daughter had been murdered. But late last year, the case was oddly reclassified as a non-homicide criminal investigation.

The article recounts many officers told the magazine of being pressured to downgrade crimes, raising questions about the sharp drop in serious crimes that have occurred since the current police superintendent arrived in 2011.
http://medillwatchdog.org/blog/2014/04/17/chi...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188879 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Dumbass, how could Obama be a natural born citizen? A NBC isn't subject to any foreign power and we all know he was born a citizen of his father's country.
And Dufus fantasizes that British law rules in the US.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188880 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>By your own admission, all children of US citizen born out side the limits of the US are citizens of the country they are born in and must be naturalized to be US citizens.
C.f., Lynch v Clarke (1844). Children born with dual citizenship are natural born in the country of birth and naturalized in the other. Sorry, play law doesn't count.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188881 Apr 18, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> You're right, it wouldn't change the fact that Democrats elected a guy with pretty much no voting record. Almost like he was kept purposely on the back burner so they could try to blame everything they voted for over the past fourteen years solely on bush.
That is one way to reasonably and intelligently critic Obama, or any other politician. Wish birthers could emulate you.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188882 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You tell that to the British Nationality Act of 1948, or the Kenyan Constitution of 1963, and while you are telling them that, you tell the US government that all of the children born out of limits of the US to US parents that their child must be naturalized to become a US citizen.
Do you really think the US is the only nation that has the ability to claim its citizens, you are barking up the wrong tree.
It is impossible to control dual-citizenship, unless one follows the intent of the 14th amendment.
Children born outside the US are citizens per statute and therefore automatically naturalized.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188883 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
What ever a Natural Born Citizen is it must be something that doesn't have any foreign influence, questionable allegiance, foreign attachments and not subject to any foreign power, you can't say that about a Naturalized or Dual citizen.
Play law doesn't count, Dufus. if a guy named Luigi eats a slice of pizza does that disqualify him: foreign influence!

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