BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#188876 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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If you looked at the attachment it did not verify the "document" but the "information" which is not the same thing! Also there was no Kapiolani Maternity And Gynecological Hospital in 1961. It was know in 1961 as Kapi‘olani Maternity Home until 1978.
We have still never seen a copy of the ORIGINAL documents. The documents released by Obama are all computer generated copies.
Try engaging in the right side of your brain every now and then.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Then suppose the Nordyke Twins BC’s were faked as well since they were born at the same hospital that wasn’t there in 61.
https://tinyurl.com/95a5uj7
If the birfoon ever had a brain it certainly relies more on fancy than fact.
Both verifications state facts related to Barack Obama’s actual birth document which they say they have on file.
Those facts state that one Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu Hawaii at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and they have the original BC to prove it.
Of course it means you’ve seen a copy of the original. If you’ve seen your own BC all you’ve seen is a copy of the original.
Again you rely on your imagination when facts are readily available. It was actually Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital from 1931 til 1971.
https://tinyurl.com/naw9w5j
Keep dreaming the impossible dream Rogue, but know that each and every day you awake the real world will be right there to slap you right back to reality.
Have you "looked"at those BCs? I mean really look?!? The one on the left has dirt on it, both have a different boarder and even though they were about five years old when the copies where made, they look like copies of five year old documents.
Now, look at Obama's BC!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...
The document is flawless even though the NEW copy was made 50 years after the original was filed. There is no distinguishable border! WHY NOT???
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to see there are problems with it. And again, why has NO independent document expert ever been allowed to handle and examine this, so called, document?

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#188877 Apr 18, 2014
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
From the same article
Mercury occurs naturally from sources such as volcano eruptions, but pollution from burning fossil fuels is the leading contributor, the study said.
The results are not surprising because pollution in the atmosphere is a global problem, said Olson, adding that these findings call for a better understanding of how mercury is introduced into the remote corners of nature and the risks.
so burning fossil fuels releases mercury into the atmosphere. guess what, that means it goes everywhere.
NEWSFLASH everything occurs naturally
Ah, but does that article say how much of them mercury contamination is from man-made sources? NO!!!

And most man-made pollution comes to ground shortly after it goes up so how do you explain contamination in remote areas? Carbon dioxide says up until a plant absorbs it, but oxides of sulfur and nitrogen precipitate just as soon a "water vapor" hit it. Yep, acid rain comes down within a few hundred miles of it sources. Same with mercury.
Soooo, just how did that mercury contamination get in those REMOTE lakes?
You Libtards only get half-truths from the loony-lefty sources and you wonder why I call you Libtards!!!

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#188878 Apr 18, 2014
Yep, the more Liberal the government, the more corrupt it is!!!

Chicago police, Chicago Mag in combat over homicide stats

It doesn’t get much more explosive than this:

A Chicago Magazine year-long review of cases identified 10 people who were beaten, burned, suffocated or shot to death in 2013, but that weren’t counted in the Chicago police department’s official count of homicides by in the city.

Among them was a woman, Tiara Groves, whose rotting body was found, naked, in a vacant warehouse, a thin gag tied around her neck. Her body was found on the floor of the warehouse, brown wire draped over her right hand. Next to her was an arm chair, and the same wire was wrapped around each arm. Her mother told the magazine that the police initially told her that her daughter had been murdered. But late last year, the case was oddly reclassified as a non-homicide criminal investigation.

The article recounts many officers told the magazine of being pressured to downgrade crimes, raising questions about the sharp drop in serious crimes that have occurred since the current police superintendent arrived in 2011.
http://medillwatchdog.org/blog/2014/04/17/chi...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188879 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Dumbass, how could Obama be a natural born citizen? A NBC isn't subject to any foreign power and we all know he was born a citizen of his father's country.
And Dufus fantasizes that British law rules in the US.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188880 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>By your own admission, all children of US citizen born out side the limits of the US are citizens of the country they are born in and must be naturalized to be US citizens.
C.f., Lynch v Clarke (1844). Children born with dual citizenship are natural born in the country of birth and naturalized in the other. Sorry, play law doesn't count.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188881 Apr 18, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> You're right, it wouldn't change the fact that Democrats elected a guy with pretty much no voting record. Almost like he was kept purposely on the back burner so they could try to blame everything they voted for over the past fourteen years solely on bush.
That is one way to reasonably and intelligently critic Obama, or any other politician. Wish birthers could emulate you.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188882 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You tell that to the British Nationality Act of 1948, or the Kenyan Constitution of 1963, and while you are telling them that, you tell the US government that all of the children born out of limits of the US to US parents that their child must be naturalized to become a US citizen.
Do you really think the US is the only nation that has the ability to claim its citizens, you are barking up the wrong tree.
It is impossible to control dual-citizenship, unless one follows the intent of the 14th amendment.
Children born outside the US are citizens per statute and therefore automatically naturalized.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188883 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
What ever a Natural Born Citizen is it must be something that doesn't have any foreign influence, questionable allegiance, foreign attachments and not subject to any foreign power, you can't say that about a Naturalized or Dual citizen.
Play law doesn't count, Dufus. if a guy named Luigi eats a slice of pizza does that disqualify him: foreign influence!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188884 Apr 18, 2014
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
From the same article
Mercury occurs naturally from sources such as volcano eruptions, but pollution from burning fossil fuels is the leading contributor, the study said.
The results are not surprising because pollution in the atmosphere is a global problem, said Olson, adding that these findings call for a better understanding of how mercury is introduced into the remote corners of nature and the risks.
so burning fossil fuels releases mercury into the atmosphere. guess what, that means it goes everywhere.
NEWSFLASH everything occurs naturally
You see, Rogue does not read very far . He only reads headlines and when they please his hateful fancy, he posts them, without getting into the meat of the subject, as in this case, he was misled by the headline. Rogue keeps posting links that prove the very opposite of what he advances. Then, when he is totally proven wrong, he goes "Shut the f...up"" Sigh.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#188885 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>And they kept repeating the fable long after it was obvious the state only issued short form BC’s. The assumption I suppose was that no one from the state of Hawaii could get a passport, join the little league or get SS.

The birfoon has always been nuts and Rogue has the nerve to ask others to use their brain when all his brain does is imagine impossible Obama birth scenarios instead of dealing with certified facts.

Every document expert who are seen the "internet" copies have said the are forgeries, Dr. Fuddy has NEVER said that the internet copies are authentic but has only said the internet copies' "information" is correct which is not the same thing.
Why has Obama NEVER allowed to actually see and handle those document? Don't tell me he has as the only people he has allowed to see and hold them are loony-lefties and you can not prove it!!!
Same pathetic fable. Way to avoid those facts

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188886 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, the more Liberal the government, the more corrupt it is!!!
Chicago police, Chicago Mag in combat over homicide stats
It doesn’t get much more explosive than this:
A Chicago Magazine year-long review of cases identified 10 people who were beaten, burned, suffocated or shot to death in 2013, but that weren’t counted in the Chicago police department’s official count of homicides by in the city.
Among them was a woman, Tiara Groves, whose rotting body was found, naked, in a vacant warehouse, a thin gag tied around her neck. Her body was found on the floor of the warehouse, brown wire draped over her right hand. Next to her was an arm chair, and the same wire was wrapped around each arm. Her mother told the magazine that the police initially told her that her daughter had been murdered. But late last year, the case was oddly reclassified as a non-homicide criminal investigation.
The article recounts many officers told the magazine of being pressured to downgrade crimes, raising questions about the sharp drop in serious crimes that have occurred since the current police superintendent arrived in 2011.
http://medillwatchdog.org/blog/2014/04/17/chi...
Damn liars and fabricators, those damn liberal gov't Chicago police. Yes, and I'm sure you have statistics on Chicago's police men/women, right down to the lowest grade beat cop, and their political affiliations, Rogue, just like you could testify at the Martin-Zimmerman trial as you were there when Z shot M .

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188887 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>And they kept repeating the fable long after it was obvious the state only issued short form BC’s. The assumption I suppose was that no one from the state of Hawaii could get a passport, join the little league or get SS.
The birfoon has always been nuts and Rogue has the nerve to ask others to use their brain when all his brain does is imagine impossible Obama birth scenarios instead of dealing with certified facts.
<quoted text>
Every document expert who are seen the "internet" copies have said the are forgeries, Dr. Fuddy has NEVER said that the internet copies are authentic but has only said the internet copies' "information" is correct which is not the same thing.
Why has Obama NEVER allowed to actually see and handle those document? Don't tell me he has as the only people he has allowed to see and hold them are loony-lefties and you can not prove it!!!
You, again,(you just don't learn too rapidly, now do you?): "Every document expert who are seen the "internet" copies have said the are forgeries,"

EVERY document expert? Are you sure? Not ONE single document expert in the whole United States of America has said the internet copies are real? Not even one? Would you mind listing of few of the deniers along with their qualifications?

Oh, Rogue , dear military and otherwise expert, no rebuttal to my Wiki excerpt on F-14s? Why? Would your bible Wikipedia make it up? Will you fess up, grovel and admit you're wrong? I did yesterday, though it didn't help your cause,but I did as I was wrong. Ever done that? The answer's no, yet so many times, just here in Topix, hundreds...

P.S. Advice for you. Think before making up some preposterous BS and posting a statement that often only confirms your adversaries' sayings. Also, read your links in their totality, not just a headline that appeals to your hate. If you do that, you may just hesitate before posting any of them.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#188888 Apr 18, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Looks like I just killed your mockingbird.
Looks like Dufus Dale just passed into the wind again.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#188889 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>And they kept repeating the fable long after it was obvious the state only issued short form BC’s. The assumption I suppose was that no one from the state of Hawaii could get a passport, join the little league or get SS.
The birfoon has always been nuts and Rogue has the nerve to ask others to use their brain when all his brain does is imagine impossible Obama birth scenarios instead of dealing with certified facts.
<quoted text>
Every document expert who are seen the "internet" copies have said the are forgeries, Dr. Fuddy has NEVER said that the internet copies are authentic but has only said the internet copies' "information" is correct which is not the same thing.
Why has Obama NEVER allowed to actually see and handle those document? Don't tell me he has as the only people he has allowed to see and hold them are loony-lefties and you can not prove it!!!
To which experts would you be referring Rogue? I’m not aware of any forensic experts who’s looked at Obama’s BC. I certainly am aware of birfoons who tried to pass themselves off as experts. Judge Malihi says they were simply birfoons
https://tinyurl.com/m8k8cws

You are perfectly right to say the internet copy is not an authentic BC. Nobody says it is. There is absolutely nothing you can do with it, the shirt or the coffee cup.

However the information on all three they say matches that on the original birth document that they’ve had on file since 61 which proves Obama’s POB.

Don’t know what you mean by “not the same thing” Rogue and I doubt you do either.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#188890 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you looked at the attachment it did not verify the "document" but the "information" which is not the same thing! Also there was no Kapiolani Maternity And Gynecological Hospital in 1961. It was know in 1961 as Kapi‘olani Maternity Home until 1978.
We have still never seen a copy of the ORIGINAL documents. The documents released by Obama are all computer generated copies.
Try engaging in the right side of your brain every now and then.
<quoted text>
Have you "looked"at those BCs? I mean really look?!? The one on the left has dirt on it, both have a different boarder and even though they were about five years old when the copies where made, they look like copies of five year old documents.
Now, look at Obama's BC!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...
The document is flawless even though the NEW copy was made 50 years after the original was filed. There is no distinguishable border! WHY NOT???
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to see there are problems with it. And again, why has NO independent document expert ever been allowed to handle and examine this, so called, document?
The Nordyke twins BC’s were over 40 years old when they were posted Rogue not five. Obama’s copy was one day old. Surely you’re not saying his should have looked like theirs. If so your assumption is ridiculous.

Obama’s long form they say was a special order copy of the original document they have on file.

But this one has always been the authentic one.
https://tinyurl.com/k96xhvl

Now you claim no independent experts have looked at the document and you wonder why?

Obviously none want the stench of the birfoon on them and all know if the HDoH say Obama’s BC was copied from the original they’ve had on file since 61 it’s nothing they can dispute.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#188891 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Why has Obama NEVER allowed to actually see and handle those document? Don't tell me he has as the only people he has allowed to see and hold them are loony-lefties and you can not prove it!!!
Another mistake the birfoon makes is this notion the POTUS has to prove anything to an ignorant birfoon when the only thing the birfoon “can” prove is how preposterous and ignorant he can be.

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#188892 Apr 18, 2014
Another Idiotard. I don't care if you are an Air Force Captain or a College Professor (Gates), if you are dealing with any law enforcement officer your should act Cool, Calm, Collective and COMPLIANT. The more 4-C you are, the faster the officer will get his investigation over and be on his way.
As a Long Haul Truck I had contact with law enforcement officers all the time and it did not mean if they were nice or a prick, I did the 4-Cs. and if he was a prick I would file a complaint against him. But if he was doing an exemplary job, I let his boss know that too!
Why you don't have to be a Long Haul Trucker to know that, just watch the TV show COPS!!! Cops don't beat you up just because you are black, dressed like a pimp, etc!!! Just go ahead and be stupid and they will accommodate you!!!

Air Force Captain Beat Up by Cop for Being in his Own Home

Read more at http://lastresistance.com/5455/air-force-capt...

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#188893 Apr 18, 2014
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
From the same article
Mercury occurs naturally from sources such as volcano eruptions, but pollution from burning fossil fuels is the leading contributor, the study said.
The results are not surprising because pollution in the atmosphere is a global problem, said Olson, adding that these findings call for a better understanding of how mercury is introduced into the remote corners of nature and the risks.
so burning fossil fuels releases mercury into the atmosphere. guess what, that means it goes everywhere.
NEWSFLASH everything occurs naturally
WE were talking about things that are man-made and NOT man-made. Stop blaming things on Mankind he had nothing to do with.
There never was any man-made Global Warming. On the global scale we are insignificant. Libtards see something knew and automatically they know it is bad and caused by evil man-kind.
Case in point is the Ozone Holes over our North and South Poles. They were discovered in the late 1970s and immediately the Libtards blamed mankind. If that was the case, why is the Ozone Hole over the South Pole larger than the one over the North Pole (st their peak)?
Think about than just a little. 90% of all humans live north of the Equator, 90% of the Industries, 90% of the coal powered plants, etc. You would think the larger hole would be over the North Pole but you would be wrongeau!!! As about everything you think about is wrongeau as your logic and facts are flawed

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#188894 Apr 18, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You see, Rogue does not read very far . He only reads headlines and when they please his hateful fancy, he posts them, without getting into the meat of the subject, as in this case, he was misled by the headline. Rogue keeps posting links that prove the very opposite of what he advances. Then, when he is totally proven wrong, he goes "Shut the f...up"" Sigh.
Please note she provided ZERO proof that mankind was the major contributor of mercury pollution. If that was the case why was that article about REMOTE lakes in the West and Alaska? Unlike carbon dioxide, mercury does not stay in the atmosphere very long. Same thing as methane gas as in methane gases case it is very flammable and a lightning bolt will cause it to burn up immediately, if the methane passes through a forest fire, poof, it;s gone.
With oxides of sulfur and nitrogen, just as soon as they hit water vapor they turn into acid rain and fall back to earth. One exception is sulfur dioxide from volcanoes because it is injected high into the stratosphere were there is little water vapor

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#188895 Apr 18, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Every document expert who are seen the "internet" copies have said the are forgeries, Dr. Fuddy has NEVER said that the internet copies are authentic but has only said the internet copies' "information" is correct which is not the same thing.
Why has Obama NEVER allowed to actually see and handle those document? Don't tell me he has as the only people he has allowed to see and hold them are loony-lefties and you can not prove it!!!
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Same pathetic fable. Way to avoid those facts
Then you should have no problem listing the Independent document expert who have been allowed to examine the copies Obama has placed on the internet!!! Come on now, that should be real easy!!! But just in case you can not, I accept your apology in advance!!!
I do not expect you to reply as you never do with anything other than a troll remark.

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