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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188679 Apr 15, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Wake up and smell the coffee Linktv
Stop being an apologist for the wealthy Leftwing cause.
You do know that the Clintons never owned a home until after they left the White House? And when the entered the White House their net worth was only a $100,00 but within a year after leaving the White House they were multi-millionairs!
That Dirty Hairy Read was just a poor bureaucrat who spent all his life in politics and now every member of his family are multi-millionairs too!
2016 cannot come faster for me when Hillary Rodham Clinton makes history by being the first Woman President of the United States!

I will not vote for her but just to see your posts would be worth the price of admission.

ROTFL

LOL.
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188680 Apr 15, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Obama has been the president for over five years now, so why hasn't HE released it?
Oh, do you know how long it takes to put a fuse in an artillery round and load and fire it? Our IBM's can fired within minutes of receiving the launch codes!
Listen up Rambo,

You better keep your head down in your bivouac to protect you from the fallout.

I think your helmet is on two tight.

LOL ROTFL
wojar

Bristol, CT

#188681 Apr 15, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I don't weary about that man, I have made you cry like a little school girl!!!
I still own my property!!!
Dufus changes his tune. A moment ago he could make the rich and powerful "disappear".
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188682 Apr 15, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Obama has been the president for over five years now, so why hasn't HE released it?
Oh, do you know how long it takes to put a fuse in an artillery round and load and fire it? Our IBM's can fired within minutes of receiving the launch codes!

Diplomat's Suppressed Document Lays Bare the Lies behind Iraq War
December 15, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/ye8w94
The Government's case for going to war in Iraq has been torn apart by the publication of previously suppressed evidence that Tony Blair lied over Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
A devastating attack on Mr. Blair's justification for military action by Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, has been kept under wraps until now because he was threatened with being charged with breaching the Official Secrets Act.

In the testimony revealed today Mr. Ross, 40, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, makes it clear that Mr. Blair must have known Saddam Hussein possessed no weapons of mass destruction. He said that during his posting to the UN, "at no time did HMG [Her Majesty's Government] assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK or its interests."

Mr. Ross revealed it was a commonly held view among British officials dealing with Iraq that any threat by Saddam Hussein had been "effectively contained".
He also reveals that British officials warned US diplomats that bringing down the Iraqi dictator would lead to the chaos the world has since witnessed. "I remember on several occasions the UK team stating this view in terms during our discussions with the US (who agreed)," he said.

It shows Mr. Ross told the inquiry, chaired by Lord Butler, "there was no intelligence evidence of significant holdings of CW [chemical warfare], BW [biological warfare] or nuclear material" held by the Iraqi dictator before the invasion. "There was, moreover, no intelligence or assessment during my time in the job that Iraq had any intention to launch an attack against its neighbors or the UK or the US," he added.

Mr. Ross's evidence directly challenges the assertions by the Prime Minster that the war was legally justified because Saddam possessed WMDs which could be "activated" within 45 minutes and posed a threat to British interests. These claims were also made in two dossiers, subsequently discredited, in spite of the advice by Mr. Ross.

Mr. Ross said in late 2002 that he "discussed this at some length with David Kelly", the weapons expert who a year later committed suicide when he was named as the source of a BBC report saying Downing Street had "sexed up" the WMD claims in a dossier. The Butler inquiry cleared Mr. Blair and Downing Street of "sexing up" the dossier, but the publication of the Carne Ross evidence will cast fresh doubts on its findings.

Mr Ross, 40, was a highly rated diplomat but he resigned because of his misgivings about the legality of the war. He still fears the threat of action under the Official Secrets Act.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1215-...

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Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188683 Apr 15, 2014
The Forgotten “Most Important Leak,” and the Myths it Exposes
June 13, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/mt5y98e

National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander Wednesday claimed the reason the NSA does its work is to ensure the security of the American public.“I think what we’re doing to protect American citizens here is the right thing.”

In early 2003, as the U.S. was attempting to get a UN Security Council resolution getting authorization for the impending Iraq war, Katharine Gun leaked an NSA memo (that was under 300 words) which was published by the British newspaper The Observer.
Daniel Ellsberg, who himself leaked the Pentagon Papers, has called Katharine Gun’s leak “the most important and courageous leak I have ever seen.… No one else — including myself — has ever done what Gun did: tell secret truths at personal risk, before an imminent war, in time, possibly, to avert it.”

The Observer noted in its March 1, 2003 expose “Revealed: U.S. Dirty Tricks to Win Vote on Iraq War” that “The United States is conducting a secret ‘dirty tricks’ campaign against UN Security Council delegations in New York as part of its battle to win votes in favor of war against Iraq.
http://www.accuracy.org/release/the-forgotten...

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The Secret Downing Street Memo
23 July 2002 /
http://downingstreetmemo.com/docs/memotext.pd...

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The Spy Who Tried to Stop a War
25 September 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/kqw6nzb
Katharine Gun worked at the British intelligence agency when she discovered an NSA memo that she used in an attempt to stop the invasion of Iraq.
Of course, Katharine Gun was free to have a conscience, as long as it didn't interfere with her work at a British intelligence agency. To the authorities, practically speaking, a conscience was apt to be less tangible than a pixel on a computer screen. But suddenly - one routine morning, while she was scrolling through email at her desk - conscience struck. It changed Katharine Gun's life, and it changed history.
Despite the nationality of this young Englishwoman, her story is profoundly American - all the more so because it has remained largely hidden from the public in the United States. When Katharine Gun chose, at great personal risk, to reveal an illicit spying operation at the United Nations in which the US government was the senior partner, she brought out of the transatlantic shadows a special relationship that could not stand the light of day.
http://www.truth-out.org/archive/item/80279:t...

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EXCLUSIVE: International War Whistleblowers Tell Why They Exposed Their Governments / http://tinyurl.com/5hkw6z / September 9, 2004
In a Democracy Now! U.S. exclusive, two former intelligence officials from Britain and Denmark discuss why they blew the whistle on their governments in relation to the war in Iraq. Katharine Gun is a former British employee who leaked details of a secret U.S. spy operation on UN Security Council members in the run-up to the Iraq invasion. Major Frank Grevil is a former military intelligence officer from Denmark who was fired for leaking classified reports that showed no weapons of mass destruction would be found in Iraq. He currently faces charges for breaching the country’s official information law
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/9/9/exclusiv...
Justice Dale

United States

#188684 Apr 15, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Dufus changes his tune. A moment ago he could make the rich and powerful "disappear".
LMAO!!! Still crying, I see!!!! LOSER!!!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188685 Apr 15, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I have always wondered why Atheists worry about tomorrow? You are nothing more than star dust, so why worry. Be happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch.<quoted text>
Yes, I worry about YOUR tomorrow. Whether you will be in eternal darkness or in the light of God. Life on Earth is insignificant to eternity. You see, I want everyone to go Heaven and I think God wants that too.
I atually think most people are good, just often misguided.
YOU are preaching from the pulpit, Oh, Pharisee? You who doth said to me "F the shut-up?. Is that how Jesus spoke? Is that your kind of love for thy neighbour?

Misguided? YOU, a birther proven 210, 535, 50 , 9, etc wrong, speak of misguided?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188686 Apr 15, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, let's just say I agree with you about Bush causing the worst recession (I don't). Did not FDR fix the Great Depression in just three years. then why can't Obama fix the Great Recession in FIVE years?
And if he fixed the Afghan War, why are we still there? We should have gotten out just as soon as OBAMA killed UBL!
FDR fixed the Great Depression in 3 years? Are you daft? Depression was maybe half-fixed and then the Great upper-fixer War came along. The rest is history.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188687 Apr 15, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Still crying, I see!!!! LOSER!!!
That a loser, total loser such as you, who would easily be bested by a failed third grader, would even dream, no, fantasize , that he has "beaten" Scrutiny and/or wojar is so pathetic, so, so...sorry, can't stop laughing, oh,where are those aisles when you need them?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#188688 Apr 16, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Without due process under eminent domain, that would be called theft. This brings us back to my argument, I have legal ownership of my property, just a fact you can't argue against.
Due process? Like the due process that has declared Obama a Natural Born Citizen and your playlaw fables worthless mouse droppings? Facts you can't argue against .... But you continue to click your heels and chant don't you Dufus Dorothy?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#188689 Apr 16, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I have always wondered why Atheists worry about tomorrow? You are nothing more than star dust, so why worry. Be happy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =aFkcAH-m9W0XX
Everything is nothing more than stardust Rogue.

To me that beats the hell out of being a game piece in a pride fight between a wicked entity, and his antagonist Lucifer.

Our existence is so much more amazing than magic when you understand how it had to happen.

Everyone, no matter theist, deist or non deist... must figure out for themselves why they concern themselves with tomorrow.

I think theist have it easy... Well, isn't it nice that superman is going to come and save you, and gift you with immortality so you never need be scared of death. Provided you have jumped through his many hoops. Why worry about anything at all? Your god would know billions (thousands) of years before your birth where you will end up... you can't fight the plan, everything is predestined. Why worry about that which you don't have a damn bit of control over?

I completely understand what the connections were that created gods. Your's has the same purpose as all the ones before and after. To fill in the unknown... and the bible has a pretty piss poor record of that.

He is to be praised for his love when things go well, and he is mysterious when he screws people.

If I handed you a history book... and it start talking about giants, witches, talking animals, sorcery, sacrifice (human and animal), thousand year old people, sky chariots, people living in fish, and my personal favorite...fuckin zombies!!!

You would think anyone who took it as truth should be committed. And that is exactly what is in the bible.

I don't know how any thinking individual could even desire it to be true. And I am pleased to find there is absolutely no evidence for it.

In the end you may find there is no guiding subtle light.
No ancestors, no friends... no judge of wrong or right.
Just eternal silence and dormancy.
A final everlasting peace.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188691 Apr 16, 2014
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You finally got it! I do own property, that was my assertion.
Better luck next time wojar, you lost!!
Dufus keeps proving my point. he took the bait and made a fool of himself with it, proving that he has the reasoning ability of a four year old. My initial comment to Scrutiny compared ownership of land in states such as CT and PA, where you have to pay property taxes, to rent paid to the government. The comment was metaphorical not literally intended to declare tax ass legally equivalent to rent. But when Dufus decided to get into the act, it was a perfect opportunity to have him try to break a play law argument, that taxes literally constitute rent. He came up with gems such as "rent is not for private possession", which is totally false, and he declared that personal property is not private property. madly flailing away in every direction, the impotent little runt even declared that he could make the rich and powerful, who might take his land for a song via eminent domain, "disappear". Keep it up Dufus. You cannot help but prove my point.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#188692 Apr 16, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Where did I claim Obama forged ANYTHING? He has his minions to do that even if they are not asked. In September 2012 both New York State and California turned in false employment information. Did Obama ask them to do this? I don't think so but Libtards know when their guy needs some help!!!
2) some may have said that, but I did not and it is not an issue with me.
3) Because if you also heard that tape someone else was reminding her to say that. The point is, is that she said it, and then corrected it after being prompted to.
4) Isn't it funny, assuming that SS did make that error, that the number had been issued before to someone else who last know address was in Hawaii and there is no record of his death. It is very plausible that some one in Hawaii noted the inactive SS # and borrowed it! But the question is, why did he really end up with that number and the SS administration will not honor the subpoena issued by a federal judge to turn over the records associated with that number and if Obama was really interested in the truth, he would ordered it released.
5) But some sources in Kenya has said he WAS born in Kenya. You assume that because a few people say he was not, that that must be the truth.
6) Ah, but why is there no evidence his mother had a passport? Is it because there are missing records from her SD records. Again you assume something because records are missing or not released!
7) Can you show us an example of one of Obama being dubbed? Also, why did the federal government spend one cent to defend a private individual from a CIVIL LAWSUIT?!? Just because Obama did not spend million$ defending himself does not mean million$ have not been spent in his name!!!
8) But there are lawsuits that have requested copies of those documents!
9) Ah, but McCain has been recognized by a Senate vote that McCain is a NBC whereas they have not done the same for Obama, have they?
10) Ah, but they are forged and they are not true copies of any existing documents. And all Dr. Fuddy has said about those documents is that the INFORMATION on those papers are correct and has never commented that the documents are actually copies of any existing documents.
Now that I have rebutted your points, let's see if you can rebut mine????
<quoted text>
"Now that I have rebutted your points, let's see if you can rebut mine????"
I noticed you did not even try to rebut any of my rebuttal points. It seems that if anyone is a birfoon, it is you!
Repeating long debunked internet gossip rebuts nothing Rogue.

Obama’s official birth document necessarily debunked all birfoonary except for the birfoon. The birfoon of course being the only person to date who has never understood this simple fact.

Being a birfoon you would as well no doubt be confused why the Senate would feel the need to pass a non-binding resolution for McCain and not Obama.

Obviously it was because they knew Obama was born here and a NBC by birth. McCain on the other hand was not born here so his status was questionable.

In the real world Obama has been twice elected POTUS yet the ignorant birfoon not only prefers to cling to his fables but actually thinks that which he imagines should be rebutted.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188693 Apr 16, 2014
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Repeating long debunked internet gossip rebuts nothing Rogue.
Obama’s official birth document necessarily debunked all birfoonary except for the birfoon. The birfoon of course being the only person to date who has never understood this simple fact.
Being a birfoon you would as well no doubt be confused why the Senate would feel the need to pass a non-binding resolution for McCain and not Obama.
Obviously it was because they knew Obama was born here and a NBC by birth. McCain on the other hand was not born here so his status was questionable.
In the real world Obama has been twice elected POTUS yet the ignorant birfoon not only prefers to cling to his fables but actually thinks that which he imagines should be rebutted.
That's Rogue for you. Obama was born in Hawaii, in the United States of America. Confirmed by the State registrar (whom Obama killed in a set-up airplane crash), the Senate, the House, the Supreme court, 50 governors etc. Rogue does not understand that, still pulls fables out of his hat, oops, helmet, and keeps defending McCain's status, does not understand why the Senate had to OK him (he was born offshore, like Romney's jobs and investments) and was confirmed yet he keeps defending him and his status even though no one has said boo on it.

Poppo, I just don't see how you're gonna make it to heaven and join Rogue and his hoard of birthers inside the Pearly Gates.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188694 Apr 16, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dufus keeps proving my point. he took the bait and made a fool of himself with it, proving that he has the reasoning ability of a four year old. My initial comment to Scrutiny compared ownership of land in states such as CT and PA, where you have to pay property taxes, to rent paid to the government. The comment was metaphorical not literally intended to declare tax ass legally equivalent to rent. But when Dufus decided to get into the act, it was a perfect opportunity to have him try to break a play law argument, that taxes literally constitute rent. He came up with gems such as "rent is not for private possession", which is totally false, and he declared that personal property is not private property. madly flailing away in every direction, the impotent little runt even declared that he could make the rich and powerful, who might take his land for a song via eminent domain, "disappear". Keep it up Dufus. You cannot help but prove my point.
But wojar, he is JUSTICE Dale, duly anointed by LSR, commonly known as...JUSTICE Dale. He is a JUSTICE. What do YOU know?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188695 Apr 16, 2014
Ya know, ABC would never have posted this article ..... unless they were very worried!!!!

Little-Known Legal Challenge That Could Torpedo Obamacare
ABC News
By Ariane de Vogue April 14, 2014 2:05 PM

While the Supreme Court considers one challenge to a provision of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), a federal appeals court located just blocks away is contemplating a separate challenge that could have much more dire consequences for the future of the law.

"What you're asking for is to destroy the individual mandate, which guts the statute," Judge Harry T. Edwards of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said to an attorney representing the challengers during a hearing on March 25.

The case - Halbig vs. Sebelius - was heard by Edwards and two other judges and they are expected to rule in the coming months.

http://news.yahoo.com/little-known-legal-chal...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188696 Apr 16, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I have always wondered why Atheists worry about tomorrow? You are nothing more than star dust, so why worry. Be happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch.<quoted text>
Yes, I worry about YOUR tomorrow. Whether you will be in eternal darkness or in the light of God. Life on Earth is insignificant to eternity. You see, I want everyone to go Heaven and I think God wants that too.
I atually think most people are good, just often misguided.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU are preaching from the pulpit, Oh, Pharisee? You who doth said to me "F the shut-up?. Is that how Jesus spoke? Is that your kind of love for thy neighbour?
Misguided? YOU, a birther proven 210, 535, 50 , 9, etc wrong, speak of misguided?
Ah, but there are still six unresolved Birther lawsuits before the courts and all it will take is for one of the, and it will be all over for Obama!
As far as the Democrats and County Club RINOs turning blands eyes to these serious constitutional issues, well, it was like the non-Impeachment trial in the Senate of Bill Clinton. NO evidence was allowed to be presented in the Senate nor where any witnesses allowed to speak. Yep, as so-called trial with out witness nor evidence allowed. Talking about stacking the defense!!!
Learn to Read

United States

#188697 Apr 16, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ya know, ABC would never have posted this article ..... unless they were very worried!!!!

Little-Known Legal Challenge That Could Torpedo Obamacare
ABC News
By Ariane de Vogue April 14, 2014 2:05 PM

While the Supreme Court considers one challenge to a provision of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), a federal appeals court located just blocks away is contemplating a separate challenge that could have much more dire consequences for the future of the law.

"What you're asking for is to destroy the individual mandate, which guts the statute," Judge Harry T. Edwards of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said to an attorney representing the challengers during a hearing on March 25.

The case - Halbig vs. Sebelius - was heard by Edwards and two other judges and they are expected to rule in the coming months.

http://news.yahoo.com/little-known-legal-chal...
Ah yes. The tax credit that isn't a tax credit is illegal. And the outcome of this will be ... Denied.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188698 Apr 16, 2014
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Number One: Soros is a corporate hack centrist Democrat and not a liberal/progressive.
Number Two: Most of the Generals, Admirals, Colonels, Majors, NSA, CIA, FBI, who came out publicly against the whole lying Bush administration are Republicans and not Democrats.
Geo. Soros a "centrist"? Only in the mind of a looney-tooney-lefty like yourself would he be considered to be NORMAL.
Next, what political party is General Westly Clark a member of?

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188699 Apr 16, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>And some fools think lowering it from 91% means all lowering will increase revenues.
But you were one of the fools who wanted to keep it at 91%

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