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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188534 Apr 14, 2014
During his October 28, 2005 press conference about the grand jury's indictment of Libby, Fitzgerald had already explained that Libby's obstruction of justice through perjury and false statements had "prevented him [Fitzgerald]—and the grand jury—from determining whether the alleged leak violated federal law," due to Libby's obscuring the facts of his own discussions about the then-still-classified covert CIA identity of Valerie Plame (what he had said to whom, when, where, and why).[60][61]

During his media appearance outside the courtroom after the verdict in the Libby case, Fitzgerald fielded questions from the press about others involved in the Plame affair and in the CIA leak grand jury investigation, such as Richard Armitage and Vice President Dick Cheney, whom he had said "[t]here is a cloud over," caused by Libby's obstruction of justice, as already addressed in his conduct of the case and in his closing arguments in court
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188535 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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First it was Bush, now it's Cheney, make up your mind. Armitage was the leaker not Libby
During his October 28, 2005 press conference about the grand jury's indictment of Libby, Fitzgerald had already explained that Libby's obstruction of justice through perjury and false statements had "prevented him [Fitzgerald]—and the grand jury—from determining whether the alleged leak violated federal law," due to Libby's obscuring the facts of his own discussions about the then-still-classified covert CIA identity of Valerie Plame (what he had said to whom, when, where, and why).[60][61]

During his media appearance outside the courtroom after the verdict in the Libby case, Fitzgerald fielded questions from the press about others involved in the Plame affair and in the CIA leak grand jury investigation, such as Richard Armitage and Vice President Dick Cheney, whom he had said "[t]here is a cloud over," caused by Libby's obstruction of justice, as already addressed in his conduct of the case and in his closing arguments in court

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188536 Apr 14, 2014
Linktv org wrote:
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Because it is a crime of treason against our CIA to out a covert operative.
Not if the President authorizes it.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188537 Apr 14, 2014
BTW Bush authorized the report NOT her name.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/06/cia.le...
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188538 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Not if the President authorizes it.
Who are Libby's superiors?

Bush and Cheney that's who.

All these lower level employees cannot do things on their own without permission.

This is the same thing that happened with Ollie "Trader' North.

North protected Reagan and Bush

Libby protected Bush and Cheney.

CASE CLOSED.

They fell on their own sword.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188539 Apr 14, 2014
Linktv org wrote:
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Bush authorized it so Armitage was allowed to leak it.
er, Link, this is becoming too complicated for Adam's and his birther clan.

You see, you post Libby's testimony, that says Bush authorised it, he blames it on an underling, like orders from the top don't matter and Bush is not responsible for Armitage leaking it. Don't forget, guys like Bush, Armitage, Libby, Adam, Rogue, are all patriots and there is no clause in the Constitution that they would not violate to prove it.
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188540 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
BTW Bush authorized the report NOT her name.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/06/cia.le...
Good point but he did allow it to be unclassified.

Which proves Treason IMO because Plame was covert.

BTW: Did you Adam 36 ever wonder why so many career CIA chiefs came out publicly against Bush/Cheney WMD in Iraq?

Plus many others!

LOL

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These top military Generals , Admirals, CIA, FBI, NSA, agents are not an insignificant number against all Neo-Con Bush Republicans!

Only Liars Like Fox News, Limbaugh, Bush and Cheney Despise Truth Tellers:

General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.) Admiral Frank “Skip” Bowman, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.) Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.) General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.) Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Donald L.“Don” Pilling, USN (Ret.) Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.) General Charles F.“Chuck” Wald, USAF (Ret.) General Anthony C.“Tony” Zinni, USMC

(Ret ) General John Batiste General William E. Odom Lt. General GREGORY NEWBOLD General Eric Shinseki General Paul Eaton GENERAL JOSEPH P. HOAR

Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute General Brent Scowcroft

General Barry McCaffrey Admiral Tommy Fargo General Wesley K. Clark

Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack Maj. Gen. John Riggs Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper

Colonel Sam Gardiner Colonel Ann Wright Colonel David Hackworth

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski Colonel Lawrence B. Wilkerson Marine Major Scott Ritter

Paul R Pillar CIA Larry C. Johnson CIA Tyler Drumheller CIA Michael Scheuer CIA

Ray McGovern CIA Russell Tice NSA, Sibel Edmonds FBI, Valerie Plame CIA.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188541 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Not if the President authorizes it.
What?

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188542 Apr 14, 2014
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are Libby's superiors?
Bush and Cheney that's who.
All these lower level employees cannot do things on their own without permission.
This is the same thing that happened with Ollie "Trader' North.
North protected Reagan and Bush
Libby protected Bush and Cheney.
CASE CLOSED.
They fell on their own sword.
No one authorized Valerie Plame to be outed. Armitage did it all on his own. There was no reason for the investigation to go on indefinitely.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188543 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Not if the President authorizes it.
The President, the Number One lawmaker in the land, the Commander in Chief, the head of all the ministries and secretaries of state, head of all governmental institutions, who is the example upon which the populace depends as a legal and moral guide, is ABOVE THE LAW? Would you like to rephrase that?

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

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#188544 Apr 14, 2014
Linktv org wrote:
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Good point but he did allow it to be unclassified.
Which proves Treason IMO because Plame was covert.
Once again the report was unclassified NOT her name.

Armitage made the error and was not authorized to do so.
Even though he made the error, was he ever charged?

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188545 Apr 14, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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The President, the Number One lawmaker in the land, the Commander in Chief, the head of all the ministries and secretaries of state, head of all governmental institutions, who is the example upon which the populace depends as a legal and moral guide, is ABOVE THE LAW? Would you like to rephrase that?
What did he do that was against the law?
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188546 Apr 14, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
er, Link, this is becoming too complicated for Adam's and his birther clan.
You see, you post Libby's testimony, that says Bush authorised it, he blames it on an underling, like orders from the top don't matter and Bush is not responsible for Armitage leaking it. Don't forget, guys like Bush, Armitage, Libby, Adam, Rogue, are all patriots and there is no clause in the Constitution that they would not violate to prove it.
They all live in the Rightwing bubble.

Could you imagine if a multitude of CIA, FBI, and Generals came out publicly against Obama like they did against Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld?

LOL

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Generals Speak Out Against Rumsfeld
DoD Determines US Foreign Policy, PERIOD!!! Congress is SUPERFLUOUS!!! The only thing to FEAR, is NOT ENOUGH FEAR.

"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste.

"My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions -- or bury the results."
-- Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold.

"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs.

"We grow up in a culture where accountability, learning to accept responsibility, admitting mistakes and learning from them was critical to us. When we don't see that happening it worries us. Poor military judgment has been used throughout this mission."
-- Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former chief of U.S. Central Command.

"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him.... I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack.

"He has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq.... Mr. Rumsfeld must step down."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.


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The Night of the Generals
April 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/yllqfpr
The six retired generals who stepped forward last spring to publicly attack Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's handling of the Iraq war had to overcome a culture of reticence based on civilian control of the military. But while each man acted separately, all shared one experience: a growing outrage over the administration's incompetence, leading some of the nation's finest soldiers to risk their reputations and cross a time-honored line.

Lieutenant General Greg Newbold, former director of operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff; retired from the Marines with three stars in 2002.

Major General Paul Eaton, West Point graduate; oversaw the creation of the new Iraqi Army until 2004. Retired with two stars in 2006

Major General John Batiste, former commander of the First Infantry Division; retired with two stars in November 2005.

Major General John Riggs, Vietnam veteran; headed army's Objective Force Task Force. Retired in April 2004 after losing one of his three stars

Major General Charles Swannack Jr., West Point graduate; commanded the 82nd Airborne in Iraq until 2004, making 153 jumps himself. Retired with two stars in 2004.

Lieutenant General Paul Van Riper, Vietnam veteran; retired as a Marine three-star in 1997. Served as a consultant to Rumsfeld's Pentagon
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2...
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188547 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not if the President authorizes it.
Its not a crime if the President does it?

Tricky Dickey Nixon
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188548 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
No one authorized Valerie Plame to be outed. Armitage did it all on his own. There was no reason for the investigation to go on indefinitely.
So you also believe that Traitor Colonel North acted alone without Reagan and Bush?

ROTFL

LOL

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188549 Apr 14, 2014
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not a crime if the President does it?
Tricky Dickey Nixon
Instead of acting like the class clown, are you going to tell us what Bush did?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188550 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
What did he do that was against the law?
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it is a crime of treason against our CIA to out a covert operative.

Do you deny writing this?

Adam36 wrote:

Not if the President authorizes it.

Do you often get entwined in your BS? Seems so.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#188551 Apr 14, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it is a crime of treason against our CIA to out a covert operative.
Do you deny writing this?
Adam36 wrote:
Not if the President authorizes it.
Do you often get entwined in your BS? Seems so.
The President did not authorize the outing of her name he declassified a report.

Stop being a clown or don't.
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188552 Apr 14, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of acting like the class clown, are you going to tell us what Bush did?
It will be a honor and pleasure to tell you what Bush did.

Fox News won't but I will.

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Judge Andrew Napolitano says Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for crimes against the United States Constitution.
Lies The Government Told You / March 5, 2010
Author: Judge Andrew Napolitano / http://tinyurl.com/ykdwxlc /
Judge Andrew Napolitano has created a great book with Lies The Government Told You. He has put into writing what many of us have long suspected…our government has been lying to use for years about almost everything it has ever done. If you think our government is crooked and power hungry, you will realize just how crooked it is when you read this book. Lies The Government Told You is scary as hell to be truthful. I didn’t find a single thing that I disagreed with. It’s almost unbelievable how far our Nation has moved from the Constitution. While I don’t watch much news anymore (I find most so called “journalists” to be either too frightened or too stupid to ask real questions that actually matter) I see enough to keep up with the major stories. I was glad to see Napolitano mention the failure of the national media as well in the book. Lies The Government Told You will really open your eyes to how broken our government is, not just because it’s virtually bankrupt, but because it fails to uphold the constitution and protect the very citizens that fund it. You will also learn that the Federal Reserve isn’t a “federal” entity. It’s a private corporation that controls all our money with little or no oversight. There used to be a joke that if Alan Greenspan happened to comment how nasty a rainy day was, the stock market would drop fifty points. It doesn’t sound far-fetched when you realize how much power the Federal Reserve actually has. I wold love to see this book as required reading in any government class. It truly does open your mind to the countless ways we as citizens have failed to protect our own freedoms by allowing such actions to occur time and time again. If you can still vote for most politicians after reading this, I can only hope they have also read the book. All Americans should be both shocked and ashamed at our government for these lies. We should remember these actions the next time we vote, though another big problem is the lack of choices on the ballot. Let’s be honest, how many times have you voted for the lesser of two evils? I highly recommend this book for everyone. If millions read it and understand how far we have fallen, maybe there is still hope that we can get our government and our constitutional rights back.
http://www.bookreviewsweekly.com/lies-the-gov...
Linktv org

New Brunswick, NJ

#188553 Apr 14, 2014
Judge Andrew Napolitano says Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for crimes against the United States Constitution.
The Libertarian commentator debates politics, history and what he considers to be the unconstitutional behavior of both the Bush and Obama administrations, with consumer advocate and four-time presidential candidate Ralph Nader.
June 2, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/kpno7e7
Well, this is something you don't see every day. Ralph Nader hosted this interview segment with Fox News' Judge Andrew Napolitano and discussed his book, Lies the Government Told You. I'm surprised the judge is going to be allowed on Fox after making the statements he did about Bush and Cheney during the interview.

Nader: What's the sanction for President Bush and Vice President Cheney?

Napolitano: There's been no sanction except what history will say about them.

Nader: What should be the sanctions?

Napolitano: They should have been indicted. They absolutely should have been indicted for torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrants. I'd like to say they should be indicted for lying but believe it or not, unless you're under oath, lying is not a crime. At least not an indictable crime. It's a moral crime.

Nader: So you think George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should even though they've left office, they haven't escaped the criminal laws, they should be indicted and prosecuted?

Napolitano: The evidence in this book and in others, our colleague the great Vincent Bugliosi has amassed an incredible amount of evidence. The purpose of this book was not to amass that evidence but I do discuss it, is overwhelming when you compare it to the level of evidence required for a normal indictment that George W. Bush as President and Dick Cheney as Vice President participated in criminal conspiracies to violate the federal law and the guaranteed civil liberties of hundreds, maybe thousands of human beings


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The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder
by Vincent Bugliosi / May 9, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/yjwxsea
There is direct evidence that President George W. Bush did not honorably lead this nation, but deliberately misled it into a war he wanted. Bush and his administration knowingly lied to Congress and to the American public -- lies that have cost the lives of more than 4,000 young American soldiers and close to $1 trillion.
A Monumental Lie
In his first nationally televised address on the Iraqi crisis on October 7, 2002, six days after receiving the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), a classified CIA report, President Bush told millions of Americans the exact opposite of what the CIA was telling him -a monumental lie to the nation and the world.

On the evening of October 7, 2002, the very latest CIA intelligence was that Hussein was not an imminent threat to the U.S. This same information was delivered to the Bush administration as early as October 1, 2002, in the NIE, including input from the CIA and 15 other U.S. intelligence agencies. In addition, CIA director George Tenet briefed Bush in the Oval Office on the morning of October 7th.

According to the October 1, 2002 NIE, "Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or CBW [chemical and biological warfare] against the United States, fearing that exposure of Iraqi involvement would provide Washington a stronger case for making war." The report concluded that Hussein was not planning to use any weapons of mass destruction; further, Hussein would only use weapons of mass destruction he was believed to have if he were first attacked, that is, he would only use them in self-defense.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/0...

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