BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#188346 Apr 11, 2014
And Eric Holder throws out the Race Card again blaming Congress for holding him in Contempt because he is not white.

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#188347 Apr 11, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And you dew? Sounds like yo is trollin' for happy people (gay).
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Aww, dear Rogue, ever the same. Gayness just blurts out again, can't help it, it's hard to contain dreams, phantasms, and not unlike volcanoes, they tend to erupt at regular intervals. Why don't you just come out and be free, Rogue? From Seinfeld : "He's gay, not there's anything wrong with it". Ha ha.
You see, Rogue, here is the difference between you and me. You're gay but just can't come out of the closet. I'm not gay, but were I, I wouldn't spend all my life in a closet, I'd just come out and live it, homophibes be damned.
I did not say "gay" as in homosexual. My mother used to call happy people "gay" but you assume when I mention "gay" I am NOT talking about happy people.
Oh, I am FREE. I accept the fact that I am a happy person (gay)! It is you Libtards who are not happy.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#188349 Apr 11, 2014
Churchlady wrote:
<quoted text>Just like in the new "Anchorman 2" movie where Ron Burgundy decides to report the news Americans "want to hear" and the ratings go through the roof. The sad truth is that Obama could never be construed a "natural-born" citizen of any country and he really was born a Brit in Kenya before later being adopted in Indonesia. The Hawaiian Birth Certificate is still a forgery and BHO is using another of numerous stolen and false Social Security numbers. Obama is a bisexual Moslem and needs to be dealt with as a treasonous enemy of the United States. However as The Antichrist he will continue to get away with murder.
All standard birther lies.

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in hawaii obama birth notices 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen.

And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#188350 Apr 11, 2014
Other standard birther lies:

(1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama---so who do you think forged it?(Okay, I'll make it easy---the guy who posted it.)

(2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia---but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

(3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---but the transcript of the call shows that she said that he was BORN IN HAWAII---why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

(4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

(5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

(6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

(7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"---but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they forged and posted those videos?(Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates." And what do you suppose was the motive for forging them??)

(8) Birther sites said that Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC---when there weren't ANY???

(9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.

And (10) the constant repetition ‘the birth certificates are forged,” and “anyone can see that the birth certificates are forged”---are all birther lies too. And they have the same motives as the lies shown above.

Birthers have not shown all the real experts who have said that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, nor have they told the readers on birther sites that the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates to Obama and confirmed ALL the facts on the copy that the White House put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. And they have not explained the research on the Xerox Workstation either:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogge...

In short, it is just another birther LIE.

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#188351 Apr 11, 2014
Does anyone know if cattle eat desert tortoises? According to Wiki they spend 95% of their time in their borrows and they are found in Nevada, California, Utah and Arizona as well as Mexico and they are in the lowest level of being threatened so why all the hubbub in Nevada?
During the last Global Warming period, the Medieval Warm Period, a thousand years ago, did they die off?

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#188352 Apr 11, 2014
Here in the Southwest we have to gopher tortoise and they are at the same threat level as the their desert cousin and all they had to do is not let the Rednecks eat them.
Oh, you never mess with a gopher tortoise borrow as rattlesnakes like to use them too!!! We have them around where I live and have found on small one on my property and I just set him down on the other side of the fence.
I wonder if wild pigs eat them because that is a major problem here. Wild pigs are such a problem that it is legal to hunt them on your property with out a hunting license any day of the year. I have shot three of them in resent years and they are great to eat.

Wiki: Gopher tortoise.

Habitat loss

In 1987, human urbanization and various human activities in Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama caused dramatic declines in the tortoise population, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service listed them as “endangered.” Even though the population declined in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina, they were not yet listed as threatened at the time. However, in recent years, habitat loss is increasing as southern states continue to experience human population growth, and expand on highway road construction. The southeast has had a 20% increase in human population between 1990 and 2000.[21]

One of the most suitable habitats for gopher tortoise is the longleaf pine ecosystem, which provides suitable well-drained and sandy soils for tortoises to inhabit.[21] Longleaf pine forests include abundant low herbaceous plant growth and open canopy/space for tortoise’s eggs to incubate. Since European settlement, longleaf pine decreased in area by an estimated of 96%, which has contributed to an 80% decrease in population densities of gopher tortoise. This means that there is only 4% of longleaf pine remaining.

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#188353 Apr 11, 2014
Oh, my property line is about 80 feet behind my house and is against a wildlife preserve area and my fence is only 50 feet back but I do have a gate and I keep the area behind my fence mowed to reduce the snake hazard.
I have Chihuahuas and a water moccasin bite would be the end of either of them. But the pigs like to graze the grass behind my house. Pigs also have been know to eat snakes (which is good). But there are more than enough wild pigs and I enjoy eating them so, bang, bang, and I have a Hawaiian feast.
Oh, my girl friend is a nurse and it grossed her out when I butchered one. As if she has never seen blood and guts!
Learn to Read

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#188354 Apr 11, 2014
From the Indianapolis Business Journal (attempts to link failed):(first quoting the Washington Post study then adding their own commentary)

“We asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc.(SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and… the farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force.”

Here, in a nutshell (pun sort of intended), is the problem of our times: the loudest voices, the partisans arguing with the most certainty and the least nuance, belong to the people who know the least about the matter at hand.

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#188355 Apr 11, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
Other standard birther lies:
(1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama---so who do you think forged it?(Okay, I'll make it easy---the guy who posted it.)
(2)
(3)
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(9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.
And (10) the constant repetition ‘the birth certificates are forged,” and “anyone can see that the birth certificates are forged”---are all birther lies too. And they have the same motives as the lies shown above.
Birthers have not shown all the real experts who have said that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, nor have they told the readers on birther sites that the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates to Obama and confirmed ALL the facts on the copy that the White House put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. And they have not explained the research on the Xerox Workstation either:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogge...
In short, it is just another birther LIE.
1) Where did I claim Obama forged ANYTHING? He has his minions to do that even if they are not asked. In September 2012 both New York State and California turned in false employment information. Did Obama ask them to do this? I don't think so but Libtards know when their guy needs some help!!!
2) some may have said that, but I did not and it is not an issue with me.
3) Because if you also heard that tape someone else was reminding her to say that. The point is, is that she said it, and then corrected it after being prompted to.
4) Isn't it funny, assuming that SS did make that error, that the number had been issued before to someone else who last know address was in Hawaii and there is no record of his death. It is very plausible that some one in Hawaii noted the inactive SS # and borrowed it! But the question is, why did he really end up with that number and the SS administration will not honor the subpoena issued by a federal judge to turn over the records associated with that number and if Obama was really interested in the truth, he would ordered it released.
5) But some sources in Kenya has said he WAS born in Kenya. You assume that because a few people say he was not, that that must be the truth.
6) Ah, but why is there no evidence his mother had a passport? Is it because there are missing records from her SD records. Again you assume something because records are missing or not released!
7) Can you show us an example of one of Obama being dubbed? Also, why did the federal government spend one cent to defend a private individual from a CIVIL LAWSUIT?!? Just because Obama did not spend million$ defending himself does not mean million$ have not been spent in his name!!!
8) But there are lawsuits that have requested copies of those documents!
9) Ah, but McCain has been recognized by a Senate vote that McCain is a NBC whereas they have not done the same for Obama, have they?
10) Ah, but they are forged and they are not true copies of any existing documents. And all Dr. Fuddy has said about those documents is that the INFORMATION on those papers are correct and has never commented that the documents are actually copies of any existing documents.
Now that I have rebutted your points, let's see if you can rebut mine????

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#188356 Apr 11, 2014
Oh oh, girl friend is waking up so I gotta go for at least a while.
Linktv org

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#188357 Apr 11, 2014
'Drop Dropbox' protests flare as wiretap proponent Condoleezza Rice joins board / Apr 10, 2014 / http://tinyurl.com/k53jnly
With the unveiling of new Carousel and Mailbox apps and the rolling out of Dropbox for Business, CEO Drew Houston made it clear on Wednesday that Dropbox wants to be a bigger part of your day-to-day life. But protesters are threatening to ditch Dropbox from their life completely, thanks to yesterday's appointment of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to the Dropbox board.
The grumbles began on Twitter and Reddit mere minutes after the announcement was made, and they've only continued to grow since then. A Drop Dropbox protest page has appeared )complete with a link to a PCWorld guide to several Dropbox alternatives), and it's been upvoted to the highly trafficked Reddit front page, as well as the front page of Reddit's technology section.
The Drop Dropbox website says its concerns are "not an issue of partisanship," but goes on to list some very partisan objections to Rice's appointment, such as her role in the Iraq War, the Bush-era torture scandals, and the fact that she was on the board of directors at the Chevron oil company.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142286/drop-d...
Frank

Spokane, WA

#188358 Apr 11, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You're right. The president does make more than the cleaning lady.
There is so much you are so dumb about, it's hopeless. Reassure me and tell me you've been stricken from the voting rolls.
" The president does make more than the cleaning lady." Obama was the one using women as a political ploy. Was the cleaning lady complaining that she doesn't make more than the president?
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#188359 Apr 11, 2014
Growth for Growth's Sake Will Kill Us All
April 11, 2014 / http://tinyurl.com/jvj3hkf
One economic fact is held to be self-evident: that the future well-being of the United States requires economic growth — preferably, as much of it as we can muster. Despite wildly divergent policy recommendations, this basic assumption is made clear and explicit by everyone from the fiscally conservative Club for Growth to the left-leaning Center for American Progress. In the boardroom of the Federal Reserve, at the negotiating table for the Trans-Pacific Partnership and on the shale fields of North Dakota, our national economic policy is built on the unshakable conviction that the only way to grow the middle class is to grow the economy — by any means necessary.

Aside from the fact that the top 1 percent has taken most of the gains of growth, leaving the rest of society in virtual stalemate for three decades, there is a profound problem with this solution. Indeed, it’s time to face an ecological truth that makes the traditional assumption increasingly untenable, as unpopular and difficult as this conclusion might be: Growth isn’t always possible. Nor is it necessarily desirable.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/11-1...

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Why We’re In A New Gilded Age
May 8, 2014 / http://tinyurl.com/mxu9yxu
http://www.foreconomicjustice.org/12113/why-w...

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#188360 Apr 11, 2014
And they already released this nut case? Seems like she needs a three-day mental evaluation!!!

Alison Michelle Ernst Is Alleged Hillary Clinton Shoe Thrower: Secret Service
By Howard Koplowitz on April 11 2014

A woman with a similar name reportedly disrupted court proceedings for accused Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes, although it's unclear whether it's the same person. CBS Denver reported in 2012 the woman shouted before being escorted out of the courtroom. The station said the woman identified herself as Allison Michelle Ernst, but said they were usure how her name was spelled. The report also said the woman had a shaved head, while Ernst had short red hair in her booking photo. It is unclear whether the woman involved in the Denver incident is the same as the woman who threw the shoe at Clinton on Thursday.
http://www.ibtimes.com/alison-michelle-ernst-...
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188361 Apr 11, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
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Dufus shows slight ability to learn. Dual citizenship has zero impact on eligibility - in spite of numerous Playlaw declarations.
Your ability to understand why a naturalized citizen can't be POTUS, works the same with a dual-citizen, too much foreign influence, or questionable loyalties.

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#188362 Apr 11, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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1) Where did I claim Obama forged ANYTHING? He has his minions to do that even if they are not asked. In September 2012 both New York State and California turned in false employment information. Did Obama ask them to do this? I don't think so but Libtards know when their guy needs some help!!!
2) some may have said that, but I did not and it is not an issue with me.
3) Because if you also heard that tape someone else was reminding her to say that. The point is, is that she said it, and then corrected it after being prompted to.
4) Isn't it funny, assuming that SS did make that error, that the number had been issued before to someone else who last know address was in Hawaii and there is no record of his death. It is very plausible that some one in Hawaii noted the inactive SS # and borrowed it! But the question is, why did he really end up with that number and the SS administration will not honor the subpoena issued by a federal judge to turn over the records associated with that number and if Obama was really interested in the truth, he would ordered it released.
5) But some sources in Kenya has said he WAS born in Kenya. You assume that because a few people say he was not, that that must be the truth.
6) Ah, but why is there no evidence his mother had a passport? Is it because there are missing records from her SD records. Again you assume something because records are missing or not released!
7) Can you show us an example of one of Obama being dubbed? Also, why did the federal government spend one cent to defend a private individual from a CIVIL LAWSUIT?!? Just because Obama did not spend million$ defending himself does not mean million$ have not been spent in his name!!!
8) But there are lawsuits that have requested copies of those documents!
9) Ah, but McCain has been recognized by a Senate vote that McCain is a NBC whereas they have not done the same for Obama, have they?
10) Ah, but they are forged and they are not true copies of any existing documents. And all Dr. Fuddy has said about those documents is that the INFORMATION on those papers are correct and has never commented that the documents are actually copies of any existing documents.
Now that I have rebutted your points, let's see if you can rebut mine????
Yep, six hours and ..... cricket noises!
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188363 Apr 11, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
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Doofus Dale, Ted Cruz will never even run for president. He may try to seek his party's nomination, but he's a joke candidate like Herman Cain or Michele Bachman.
If he does run, what are you going to do??? Hell, I can answer that, you will do nothing, if Ted goes, Obama goes and that will include everything he has signed into law!!!!
Obskeptic

Grand Blanc, MI

#188364 Apr 11, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Is Obama SMART or are the Liberals who are buying what he is selling ...... STUPID?
Oh, SOCIALISM is man-made. There has been some form of socialism ever since the dawn of history. I have no problem with taking care of those who need help but not to the level you Libtards believe in.
I've always been a wagon puller myself Rogue, but I am unwilling to be enslaved to incompetence and those who promote hatred like the democrats do. That speech the other week that the president gave at U of M was beneath the office of the presidency. If I were a republican in office I wouldn't work with him on anything as disrespectful and divisive as he postures himself. I'm still pulling, will never be a rider, but I'm not pulling nearly as hard as I'm capable of, and even step out of line on occasion now and just watch. I'm keeping whats mine and only sharing with those of my choosing. Screw the freeloaders.
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188365 Apr 11, 2014
wojar wrote:
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What a stupid moron. He doesn't seem to understand what "either with or without rights of ownership" means. Hey, fecking moron, definition 3 "LAW" is what counts, as you are concerned with legal ownership. Now when a tenant occupies does Dufus Dale not comprehend that is actual occupancy?
Pathetic. Dufus Dale is dumb as a post.
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LMAO!!! Occupy doesn't mean legal ownership. LMAO!!! You lose again!!!
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188366 Apr 11, 2014
wojar wrote:
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Sadly, Dufus Dale doesn't know who his owners are.
Face it wojar, I have owned you from your first post!!!

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