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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#188176 Apr 8, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
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Same tired Dufus fable ... Poor pathetic fool
Same Troll respond. Poor beyond pathetic fool.

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#188177 Apr 8, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
For the 'informed" posters, there was an election in the province (state) of Québec last night. The sovereingnist or separatist party (those that want to form seoarate from Canada, form a new country) was slaughtered by the federalist liberal party, 70 seats to 30, with the rest to CAQ and, much to the relief of the Gurus and Rogues of this world, 3 seats of 125 for the socialists. Wow.
Are the separatists and the socialist the same people? I don't know but you probably do!

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#188178 Apr 8, 2014
This is from a local CBS affiliate but just now Fox News reported that this Black nurse also had a concealed handgun and was willing to use it to protect the WHITE man that was being beaten. If this is true, I wonder why CBS did not report that fact?!?

Detroit Nurse Hailed A Hero; Stepping In To Stop The Attack On Driver Beaten By Mob April 5, 2014

DETROIT (WWJ)– A Detroit nurse is being hailed as a hero.

Deborah Hughes stopped first to help an injured boy after he was hit by a pickup truck driven by Steven Utash.

Utash struck the 11-year-old boy after he stepped in front of his pickup truck near Morang and Balfour. Utash stopped immediately to check on the boy but was attacked by a violent mob before he had a chance to even reach the child, who suffered a broken leg.

Hughes said the driver was very upset and asked repeatedly if the boy was alright.

Not long after that, witness accounts say five men started beating Utash.

Only one person stepped in to help Utash: Deborah Hughes, a nurse. In an exclusive interview with WWJ Newsradio 950, Hughes said she was one of the first people on the scene.

“I was going to the store and I saw the baby on the ground, crying, and he was by himself. So I asked him what happened and he told me that a truck had just hit him, and he was hysterical,” Hughes told WWJ’s Sandra McNeill.“Then, a man came out of the store and said he was the father and he got him. He had calmed down from crying, daddy was there, you know, so he was fine.”

Hughes never expected what happened next.

“I look over and I see about three or four guys saying,‘You hit my nephew, you’re going to die,’ and I look over and seen the man on the sidewalk,” she said.“About five guys was kicking him, beating him, stomping him in the head with they feet. They were beating him, from his face to his side to his feet.”

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#188179 Apr 8, 2014
Hughes said so many people, about 60 by her estimates, were standing around just watching the men beat on Utash, she had to do something.

“When I ran over there, everybody got back and one guy, they had to hold him because I guess he wanted to get me too. He kept saying,‘He hit my nephew, he hit my nephew. This n**** is fitting to die,’ but I said,‘No he’s not, he’s not going to die today,’ and they stepped back and let me have him,” she said.“I was willing to get hurt over helping that guy. He was bleeding, he had a big gash on the side of his head and he couldn’t take any more licks and I wasn’t willing to stand there and let them keep beating him.”

Hughes said she put her training as a nurse into action while someone else called paramedics.

“He was bleeding and going into convulsions and stuff, so I got one side of his head and I started rubbing it, you know, he was unconscious and just in a state of shock,” she said.“After the EMS drivers got there, about 10 minutes, he came back to and he started moving and kicking around, and I told him,‘You can’t move baby, don’t move. Everything is going to be OK.’ And we got him settled down, EMS got him strapped up and they took him to the hospital.”

Hughes said she couldn’t believe not one other person stepped in to help Utash, who likely would have been beaten to death.

“They were fitting to kick him and beat him some more and I told them they are not going to hit him anymore, they are not going to put their feet on him. The guys that were standing there were fitting to stomp him in the head again, and after I got there I told them,‘Y’all can get back. Y’all not going to hit him anymore, you’re not going to kick him,’” she said.“But I got in there. I was very afraid but when you see somebody being abused, if you’ve got a good heart you’re going to step in. Or, you’re going to let it happen and everybody out there was letting it happen and I wasn’t going to do that.”

Hughes said after Utash regained consciousness, he repeatedly asked if the boy was alright.

“He was so traumatized, this man was like,‘Is he alright? Is he alright? Oh Lord, tell me he’s OK. I’m sorry, I’m sorry,’” she said.“He didn’t drive off. He got out the truck and he walked back, and they just beat him like he was nothing.”

Days after the attack, Utash is still unconscious. His family has set up an online fundraiser to help pay for medical bills. Less than 24 hours after the effort started, more than $60,000 had been raised.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/04/05/detroi...

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#188180 Apr 8, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So, if it wasn't that she gave birth, you'd agree with Guru that Michelle Obama is very man-like. How low can you go in your envy, jealousy and misogyny?
It's strange how the first lady, along with very few of her predecessors, appears regularly in fashion magazines, is described as beautiful by the French no less but as a man by low lifers like you and sub-human Guru. But, for your and Guru's info, beauty is the least of a first lady's important attributes. Michelle Obama does a wonderful job as first lady for kids and on behalf of good healthy nutrition and exercise.
Yes, I would not say Madam Obama has a feminine figure and on a scale of one to ten I would say she was just a five in over all beauty.
Oh course the loony-left will say she looks beautiful in anything she wears and I have no problem but if you compare her to Marilyn McCoo, when she was Micheal's age, I would say McCoo was a nine and Michael still just a five. Dianna Ross was also very pretty (just too skinny for my taste).
Barabara Bush I would say was a four when she was in the White House as was Hillary, Laura Bush a six but I still think the prettiest First Lady was Jackie Kennedy, at a 9.5 ( I would have given her a ten but she was a little to skinny), and Micheal does not come close to her.

“Arm the homeless!”

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#188181 Apr 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Soooo, if you are, as you claim, a constitutionalists, you should hate Obama even more than Bush just based on the 38 amendments he dictated to the ACA (ObamaCrae).
Not at all... as I am indifferent to the ACA. Why would a constitutionalist care about that?

I don't think govt should be privy to anyone's medical records. At the same time... our current system sucks just as bad as it can.

In America... receiving competent medical treatment for little or no cost should be the norm.

I don't think a guy in his 50s should lose everything because his insurance shorted out on his heart attack/bypass surgery.

I hate Obama for autostamping Bush's patriot act extention from overseas without reading it and for the NDAA.

I hate Bush for all his nazi bullshit..(DOHS, NSA.. a limitless waste of money)
I hate Obama for not getting rid of it and expanding it wherever possible.

In my eyes they are on a level field.

Any politician not stating that he will shut down the above... I won't vote for.
Learn to Read

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#188182 Apr 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Same Troll respond. Poor beyond pathetic fool.
Problems Rouge? Getting nervous about those 6 losses still to come?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188183 Apr 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I wonder if San Fran Nan is also proud the CIA mislead Congress about Benghazi?
Pelosi: Cheney 'proud' CIA misled
"Cheney set a tone and an attitude for the CIA," House Minority Leader says
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo News April 6, 2014 11:57 AM Yahoo News
http://news.yahoo.com/pelosi--cheney--proud--...
So, your beloved CIA misled Congress? Is it then possible that the CIA also misled Obama, Hillary Clinton, the UN Ambassador and others, which in turn led to their inexact initial reaction to the sad events in Benghazi? What say you?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188184 Apr 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Are the separatists and the socialist the same people? I don't know but you probably do!
Nope. I said 3 seats for the socialists. Not the P.Q. Sigh.

The P.Q. is left of centre, for your info, as is the liberal party. At the present time, there is no right of centre party in Québec). The P.Q., oh so socialist was FOR gas and oil exploration on virgin and pristine Anticosti island (bigger than many countries, look it up), how socialist is that?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#188185 Apr 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
This is from a local CBS affiliate but just now Fox News reported that this Black nurse also had a concealed handgun and was willing to use it to protect the WHITE man that was being beaten. If this is true, I wonder why CBS did not report that fact?!?
Detroit Nurse Hailed A Hero; Stepping In To Stop The Attack On Driver Beaten By Mob April 5, 2014
DETROIT (WWJ)– A Detroit nurse is being hailed as a hero.
Deborah Hughes stopped first to help an injured boy after he was hit by a pickup truck driven by Steven Utash.
Utash struck the 11-year-old boy after he stepped in front of his pickup truck near Morang and Balfour. Utash stopped immediately to check on the boy but was attacked by a violent mob before he had a chance to even reach the child, who suffered a broken leg.
Hughes said the driver was very upset and asked repeatedly if the boy was alright.
Not long after that, witness accounts say five men started beating Utash.
Only one person stepped in to help Utash: Deborah Hughes, a nurse. In an exclusive interview with WWJ Newsradio 950, Hughes said she was one of the first people on the scene.
“I was going to the store and I saw the baby on the ground, crying, and he was by himself. So I asked him what happened and he told me that a truck had just hit him, and he was hysterical,” Hughes told WWJ’s Sandra McNeill.“Then, a man came out of the store and said he was the father and he got him. He had calmed down from crying, daddy was there, you know, so he was fine.”
Hughes never expected what happened next.
“I look over and I see about three or four guys saying,‘You hit my nephew, you’re going to die,’ and I look over and seen the man on the sidewalk,” she said.“About five guys was kicking him, beating him, stomping him in the head with they feet. They were beating him, from his face to his side to his feet.”
Why a "black"nurse? Why not just a nurse? You really don't get it, now do you?

Had she been a white nurse, would you have reported that a "white" nurse helped a...?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

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Ottawa

#188186 Apr 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yes, I would not say Madam Obama has a feminine figure and on a scale of one to ten I would say she was just a five in over all beauty.
Oh course the loony-left will say she looks beautiful in anything she wears and I have no problem but if you compare her to Marilyn McCoo, when she was Micheal's age, I would say McCoo was a nine and Michael still just a five. Dianna Ross was also very pretty (just too skinny for my taste).
Barabara Bush I would say was a four when she was in the White House as was Hillary, Laura Bush a six but I still think the prettiest First Lady was Jackie Kennedy, at a 9.5 ( I would have given her a ten but she was a little to skinny), and Micheal does not come close to her.
Physical beauty is that important to you? Really? FYI, Michelle Obama was hailed for her beauty by "Le Figaro" of Paris, of right-wing and influential magazine.

And I disagree. Laura Bush was the prettiest. Rosalyn Carter number 2. Betty Ford, in spite of being older, was stunning. Jackie was very pretty, yes. But , hey, who cares?

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Dump Trump now

#188188 Apr 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
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What a totally incompetent response. Indeed I know that personal property, such as gold, is private property. People thought they owned it, until they were forced to surrender it for pieces of paper.
And a renter is in private possession of the item rented. When a landlord rents property, the renter gains private possession of the property.
According to floridabar.org :
"A tenant is entitled to the right of private, peaceful possession of the dwelling."
http://tinyurl.com/23gp5qs
Sorry Dufus, you cannot prove a point with a string of false disjointed statements.
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Is that why a guy doesn't buy beer but rents it?
Ellen1

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#188189 Apr 8, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!......to be citizens are "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.(Elk v. Wilkins, 1884)
Yes, go ahead and push to remove Ted, both he and Obama were born with the same baggage, citizens of a foreign country.
A dual-citizenship is no better than one that is naturalized and we all know a naturalized citizen can't be POTUS. Now why would that be, questionable allegiance, of course.
Every child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats and enemy invaders, and that includes dual citizens at birth.

http://www.westernfreepress.com/2013/03/23/bi...

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

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Ottawa

#188190 Apr 8, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
Exactly. But these numbskulls just don't get it. No need to add. Same here, you're born here from just any nationality (parents), you're a natural-born Canadian, like Cruz. Rogue thinks because Cruz never paid Canadian taxes, never had a Canadian passport, he is just not a Canadian. Farcical of course. He left for the USA with his parents when he was a few months old. Cruz's so clueless, he thought a simple "I don't want to be Canadian any more on TV" would divest him of his Canadian citizenship. Our rules say no, as do yours.
Churchlady

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#188191 Apr 8, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Exactly. But these numbskulls just don't get it. No need to add. Same here, you're born here from just any nationality (parents), you're a natural-born Canadian, like Cruz. Rogue thinks because Cruz never paid Canadian taxes, never had a Canadian passport, he is just not a Canadian. Farcical of course. He left for the USA with his parents when he was a few months old. Cruz's so clueless, he thought a simple "I don't want to be Canadian any more on TV" would divest him of his Canadian citizenship. Our rules say no, as do yours.
When exactly did the Constitutional requirements to be President get changed? OR when exactly did the meaning of "natural-born Citizen" get redefined?

NOVEMBER 22(2013)--An 81-year-old "birther" was arrested today and charged with threatening President Barack Obama’s life, according to federal court records.
Prosecutors allege that Elwyn Fossedal was in a post office near his Wisconsin home last month when he announced,“If President Obama was here I would shoot him right there and kill him right now.”
When Secret Service agents confronted Fossedal about the threat--which was relayed to law enforcement by witnesses--he would not recant the statement and “repeated the threat using different words. He also made a number of additional threats towards the President,” according to a felony complaint.
Learn to Read

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#188193 Apr 8, 2014
Churchlady wrote:
<quoted text>When exactly did the Constitutional requirements to be President get changed? OR when exactly did the meaning of "natural-born Citizen" get redefined?

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The meaning under US law and the Constitution remains unchanged in spite of Birfoon playlaw fables

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#188194 Apr 8, 2014
Ya know there will be a backlash and if the normal-gays don't speak up about the Nazi-Gays, there will be a backlash.

"There is a gay mafia," said Bill Maher, "if you cross them you do get whacked."
Maher, the host of HBO's "Real Time," was talking about the gay activists and their comrades who drove Brendan Eich out as CEO of Mozilla. Eich, who invented JavaScript and co-founded Mozilla in 1998, had been named chief executive in late March.

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#188195 Apr 8, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Exactly. But these numbskulls just don't get it. No need to add. Same here, you're born here from just any nationality (parents), you're a natural-born Canadian, like Cruz. Rogue thinks because Cruz never paid Canadian taxes, never had a Canadian passport, he is just not a Canadian. Farcical of course. He left for the USA with his parents when he was a few months old. Cruz's so clueless, he thought a simple "I don't want to be Canadian any more on TV" would divest him of his Canadian citizenship. Our rules say no, as do yours.
Quit lying. You know I NEVER said that. I repeat, I said that Ted Cruz has never declared himself to be a Canadian Citizen and you have never shown where he has. Now shut the f-up!!!

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#188196 Apr 8, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
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Not at all... as I am indifferent to the ACA. Why would a constitutionalist care about that?
I don't think govt should be privy to anyone's medical records. At the same time... our current system sucks just as bad as it can.
In America... receiving competent medical treatment for little or no cost should be the norm.
I don't think a guy in his 50s should lose everything because his insurance shorted out on his heart attack/bypass surgery.
I hate Obama for autostamping Bush's patriot act extention from overseas without reading it and for the NDAA.
I hate Bush for all his nazi bullshit..(DOHS, NSA.. a limitless waste of money)
I hate Obama for not getting rid of it and expanding it wherever possible.
In my eyes they are on a level field.
Any politician not stating that he will shut down the above... I won't vote for.
Sooo, what exactly is wrong with our health care system. Anyone can go to any hospital with a life threatening condition, lost of eye sight or limb and whether you can prove you can pay or not, they must treat you.
Pregnancy is a NORMAL condition if you engage in sexual activity. If you want to abort your baby, YOU need to pay for the abortion, not ME!!!!

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#188197 Apr 8, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
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Problems Rouge? Getting nervous about those 6 losses still to come?
Know, knot at all. But you are worried that even if one wins, YOUR boy loses!

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