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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188139 Apr 7, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
1. When you repeat your lies and refuse to show proof, what should I say?
2. Show us where Ted Cruz has ever claimed to be a Canadian citizen? If you can't, shut the f-up!!!<quoted text>
Again, you can not show proof that he ever claimed citizenship in Canada and as a sad little troll you can never show proof as it does not exist. Now, shut the f-up unless you can show proof that he claimed Canadian citizenship.
Yep, you are the type of troll who will claim that I am anti-gay because I am PRO-traditional marriage.
You also believe that Pro-Choice means you are NOT PRO-Abortion. It is more than semantics!!!
Grow up Rouge, Ted's announcement was an admission of his Canadian citizenship.

"Aug 19, 2013 - Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) announced Monday evening that he will renounce his Canadian citizenship." - Washington Post
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Ted - "I will renounce my Canadian citizenship"

Rouge moron "when did Ted ever admit he was a Canadian citizen?"

Only Rouge would attempt to renounce a citizenship that he does not hold ...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188140 Apr 7, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Makes no difference what your definition is, I own my private and personal property, and I do not pay rent on them, just taxes. Had you read wojar's posts, he proved everything I stated, although he didn't know it.
Why do you socialist bitch about Bush taking your inalienable rights, isn't that the way of a socialist government. Hell, just look at your party it has the same agenda as the communist party, you people are far too stupid to recognize that fact, or is that what you want, and you bitch about Bush!!
I certainly did not prove TeaHead's idiotic statements, such as: Rent is not for "private possession"!

Nor did I validate his belief that personal property is not private property.

I was laughing at his incompetent attempts to show that tax technically is not rent.

However, property tax on your home is functionally equivalent to rent: If you don't pay it you will be evicted. You are the owner only so long as the government says you are the owner.

Does Dufus Dale the TeaHead still believe that personal property is not private property or that rent is not for private possession?
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188142 Apr 7, 2014
Communist Party USA to push Democrat agenda at convention in Chicago

Hammer and_sickel Communist Party USA isn’t hiding their allegiance to the progressive liberal Democrat party anymore. In June they will hold a convention in Chicago (how appropriate.) Their goal? To push the progressive liberal Democrat agenda of tax the rich and ‘transformation’ of America.

The Communist Party USA is returning to the site of its founding, and President Obama’s home town, for its annual convention in June. At the Chicago convention they will lay out their party platform, which, by golly, is the same as the Democrat Party platform. What an odd coincidence.

The vision of the party is also in line with the Occupy Movement, which was supported by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and even President Barack Obama. In their announcement, they make a proclamation against ‘the 1%.”

‘The people of the United States face enormous challenges today,‘We live in a capitalist system where 99% of people struggle every day to survive and the richest 1% control the vast majority of wealth and power. Capitalism cannot meet the needs of the vast majority.’ The notice goes on to take aim at three common adversaries of the working class including ‘the rich and powerful’,‘the extreme right’, and ‘the Republican Party’.

The group echoes Obama’s determination to fundamentally transform America as they lay out the plan for the conference and the issues that they will address.

At least the members of the CPUSA don’t lie about their devotion to Marxist ideology the way the Democrats do.

It’s long past time that the Democrats and Communist Party USA merged already. Their goals for America are exactly the same, their politicians are all basically Communists and the media in this country is state run Democrat media.

What more do the two parties need to show Americans that they are one in the same?
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188143 Apr 7, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly did not prove TeaHead's idiotic statements, such as: Rent is not for "private possession"!
Nor did I validate his belief that personal property is not private property.
I was laughing at his incompetent attempts to show that tax technically is not rent.
However, property tax on your home is functionally equivalent to rent: If you don't pay it you will be evicted. You are the owner only so long as the government says you are the owner.
Does Dufus Dale the TeaHead still believe that personal property is not private property or that rent is not for private possession?
LMAO!!! You sure did, remember conveyance.

con·vey·ance

Law
the legal process of transferring property from one owner to another.

Owners do not pay rent, and as you stated owners pay taxes for the upkeep of the community.

The point of the debate was that in a socialist state one does not have private property.
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188144 Apr 7, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly did not prove TeaHead's idiotic statements, such as: Rent is not for "private possession"!
Nor did I validate his belief that personal property is not private property.
I was laughing at his incompetent attempts to show that tax technically is not rent.
However, property tax on your home is functionally equivalent to rent: If you don't pay it you will be evicted. You are the owner only so long as the government says you are the owner.
Does Dufus Dale the TeaHead still believe that personal property is not private property or that rent is not for private possession?
LMAO!!! Do you know the definition of private property v. personal property, and yes private possession means you do not rent it, you own it, just as I states, and yes I am the owner until due process relieves me of said property.(See 14th amendment)
LMAO!!! Don't try to spin out of this one, I skooled your drunk ass, big time!!!

“Opinionated Redhead”

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#188145 Apr 7, 2014
The Half-Black President wrote:
<quoted text>
And you are about as educated as Obama is. Obama thinks a Navy Corpsman is a dead sailor!
Oh, not one of you Libtards have proven that Ted Cruz has ever claimed he was a Canadian CITIZEN!!! So how can you assume something he has never said?!?
Yes, I am serious. Just call a Marine a Sailor and see what happens!!!! Oh, do you know what "Marines" even means? It means "My Ass Rides in Navy Ships"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T ed_Cruz

“Opinionated Redhead”

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#188146 Apr 7, 2014
The Half-Black President wrote:
<quoted text>
And you are about as educated as Obama is. Obama thinks a Navy Corpsman is a dead sailor!
Oh, not one of you Libtards have proven that Ted Cruz has ever claimed he was a Canadian CITIZEN!!! So how can you assume something he has never said?!?
Yes, I am serious. Just call a Marine a Sailor and see what happens!!!! Oh, do you know what "Marines" even means? It means "My Ass Rides in Navy Ships"
http://www.politico.com/story/ 2014/01/ted-cruz-canadian-citi zenship-101747.html
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188147 Apr 7, 2014
hornypam wrote:
LMAO!!!......to be citizens are "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.(Elk v. Wilkins, 1884)

Yes, go ahead and push to remove Ted, both he and Obama were born with the same baggage, citizens of a foreign country.
A dual-citizenship is no better than one that is naturalized and we all know a naturalized citizen can't be POTUS. Now why would that be, questionable allegiance, of course.

“Opinionated Redhead”

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#188148 Apr 7, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
We know you are very disrespectful of people you disagree with. It's obvious.
Oh, can you prove Ted Cruz is a Canadian? And John McCain was a sailor and not a soldier but you probably don't know the difference, do you Tootsie?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2 014/01/03/us-senator-ted-cruz- still-dual-us-canadian-citizen -despite-simple-renouncement/
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188149 Apr 7, 2014
hornypam wrote:
LMAO!!! "hornypam", "come on down", if the price is right!!!
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#188150 Apr 7, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly did not prove TeaHead's idiotic statements, such as: Rent is not for "private possession"!
Nor did I validate his belief that personal property is not private property.
I was laughing at his incompetent attempts to show that tax technically is not rent.
However, property tax on your home is functionally equivalent to rent: If you don't pay it you will be evicted. You are the owner only so long as the government says you are the owner.
Does Dufus Dale the TeaHead still believe that personal property is not private property or that rent is not for private possession?
LMAO!!! You got skooled , makes no difference how you try to spin it!!! LMAO!!!

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#188151 Apr 7, 2014
Perfect.
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!......to be citizens are "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.(Elk v. Wilkins, 1884)
Yes, go ahead and push to remove Ted, both he and Obama were born with the same baggage, citizens of a foreign country.
A dual-citizenship is no better than one that is naturalized and we all know a naturalized citizen can't be POTUS. Now why would that be, questionable allegiance, of course.
Thank you and may God bless!
Guru

West Hollywood, CA

#188152 Apr 8, 2014
man...you guys gotta see this one. you thought obama was weird....you ain;'t seen nothing yet!!! I think this is true!!!!??


lol...oh man.....I can't stop laughing!!!!

Looks like Michelle is a man!!!

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

Since: Dec 06

KREUZBERG...

#188154 Apr 8, 2014
Some lost a lot some lost a few things some will lose things and then some gain some things too...

Boohoo to A Society for letting this happen, People????

People for and by...
Something is done with all the taxes can't tell me that some people do not benefit from taxes paid in...

Oh so lets see poor people exist and Government is going to stop helping all together who helps out?

To the point there's no one left to help and Government had someone been slacking how are there still people poor?

What People?

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

Since: Dec 06

KREUZBERG...

#188155 Apr 8, 2014
Guru wrote:
man...you guys gotta see this one. you thought obama was weird....you ain;'t seen nothing yet!!! I think this is true!!!!??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fVAXqKugXkgXX
lol...oh man.....I can't stop laughing!!!!
Looks like Michelle is a man!!!
Ok you are questioning yourself if it is real????

Odds are it isn't...Odds.... LOL to that...

Hey Maybe it's the very first Sims Family....Our President is a Sim's Character now can we try to figure out what Nation has created such noble Royals...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188157 Apr 8, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You sure did, remember conveyance.
con·vey·ance
Law
the legal process of transferring property from one owner to another.
Owners do not pay rent, and as you stated owners pay taxes for the upkeep of the community.
The point of the debate was that in a socialist state one does not have private property.
Now where does it say in the definition of conveyance that an owner is precluded from paying rent? Is Dale hallucinating again?

I know of a tenant who subleased property back to the owner. The owner was paying rent.

Ha ha. Owners do pay rent.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly did not prove TeaHead's idiotic statements, such as: Rent is not for "private possession"!
Nor did I validate his belief that personal property is not private property.
I was laughing at his incompetent attempts to show that tax technically is not rent.
However, property tax on your home is functionally equivalent to rent: If you don't pay it you will be evicted. You are the owner only so long as the government says you are the owner.
Does Dufus Dale the TeaHead still believe that personal property is not private property or that rent is not for private possession?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#188158 Apr 8, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Makes no difference what your definition is, I own my private and personal property, and I do not pay rent on them, just taxes. Had you read wojar's posts, he proved everything I stated, although he didn't know it.
Why do you socialist bitch about Bush taking your inalienable rights, isn't that the way of a socialist government. Hell, just look at your party it has the same agenda as the communist party, you people are far too stupid to recognize that fact, or is that what you want, and you bitch about Bush!!
I am not a socialist. I am a constitutionalist.

That is why I hated dubbya.

I hate Obama too...just not for trivial bullshit. You act as if Obama is in control of US politics and everything would be rainbows and candy canes if a GOP candidate replaced him.

Exactly nothing would be different.

You have completely failed in 4 or 5 post now to name a single policy enacted by Obama that is moving the US to socialism. Repeating generalities doesn't make your claim true.

When I asked to for an example, I just assumed that since you talk communism this... and socialism that... you may have something to reinforce your idea. If I were to make such a statement... I would be ready to at least present conceptual proof.

But, hey... I work with people who require convincing, I am used to it.

But it has been 3 or 4 days, and I am getting the feeling you just like waving unloaded guns.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#188159 Apr 8, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Do you know the definition of private property v. personal property, and yes private possession means you do not rent it, you own it, just as I states, and yes I am the owner until due process relieves me of said property.(See 14th amendment)
LMAO!!! Don't try to spin out of this one, I skooled your drunk ass, big time!!!
What a totally incompetent response. Indeed I know that personal property, such as gold, is private property. People thought they owned it, until they were forced to surrender it for pieces of paper.

And a renter is in private possession of the item rented. When a landlord rents property, the renter gains private possession of the property.

According to floridabar.org :
"A tenant is entitled to the right of private, peaceful possession of the dwelling."
http://tinyurl.com/23gp5qs

Sorry Dufus, you cannot prove a point with a string of false disjointed statements.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly did not prove TeaHead's idiotic statements, such as: Rent is not for "private possession"!
Nor did I validate his belief that personal property is not private property.
I was laughing at his incompetent attempts to show that tax technically is not rent.
However, property tax on your home is functionally equivalent to rent: If you don't pay it you will be evicted. You are the owner only so long as the government says you are the owner.
Does Dufus Dale the TeaHead still believe that personal property is not private property or that rent is not for private possession?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#188160 Apr 8, 2014
Guru wrote:
man...you guys gotta see this one. you thought obama was weird....you ain;'t seen nothing yet!!! I think this is true!!!!??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fVAXqKugXkgXX
lol...oh man.....I can't stop laughing!!!!
Looks like Michelle is a man!!!
They even wrapped it up with Deuteronomy... It HAS to be true...

"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God."

...idiots.... I can't stop laughing either.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#188162 Apr 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
What a totally incompetent response. Indeed I know that personal property, such as gold, is private property. People thought they owned it, until they were forced to surrender it for pieces of paper.
And a renter is in private possession of the item rented. When a landlord rents property, the renter gains private possession of the property.
According to floridabar.org :
"A tenant is entitled to the right of private, peaceful possession of the dwelling."
http://tinyurl.com/23gp5qs
Sorry Dufus, you cannot prove a point with a string of false disjointed statements.
<quoted text>
I have heard of Feds threatening people with eminent domain to take their property as a tactic used to lean on people they need.

Then again... law enforcement lies to people all the time. Really the only way they can get cooperation from anyone anymore. I live in a place police can't come without a warrant or being summoned. And the rare occasion they are spotted... people aren't exactly cooperative, let alone welcoming.

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