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#187511 Mar 29, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you explain multiple birth announcements in Hawaiian papers?
If no one believes it... there must be some form of evidence.
you mean the 'planted' birth announcements? Show us an original newspaper, with the announced birth?

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#187512 Mar 29, 2014
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Vogt has won six Emmy awards and two duPont Columbia awards for his work. He was also awarded the USO Heart Of A Patriot award in 2007. Vogt has extensive experience with conflict journalism in Afghanistan, Iraq, Croatia, Bosnia and Somalia. Doug Vogt has worked extensively with Peter Jennings, Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters and Ted Koppel.
u? zip!
Yes, Doug Vogt is a serious journalist and has done emmy winning camera work.

Douglas Vogt is a fuktard birther scam artist with a strong pseudoscientific background.

If you are going to sing praises... at least be sure you are talking about the right guy.

...idiot.

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#187513 Mar 29, 2014
Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text>you mean the 'planted' birth announcements? Show us an original newspaper, with the announced birth?
You do understand you are in America right?

You don't get to make up stupid shit and expect people to defend themselves. That is called Napoleonic justice and it died off... well, with Napoleon.

The burden of proof is on YOU.

... not Obama.

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#187514 Mar 29, 2014
Logging in with all of your accounts to approve of your stupid conspiracy theory doesn't impress anyone.

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#187515 Mar 29, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of USSC rulings are 4/5 or 5/4 but what if the Hobby Lobby ruling is 6/3?
Later, Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer asked what would happen if Congress passed a law similar to a recent Danish enactment barring the slaughtering of animals while they are conscious. Would for-profit butcher shops run by Jews or Muslims be allowed exemptions? The three women justices were disinclined to exempt for-profit companies. Not so, the six men.
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t...
The way I see it Rogue, the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion.

This only goes so far. The law will always trump religious beliefs.

People have come up with all kinds of crap to make an end run around law using freedom of religion.

There is an entire religion based on marijuana now. Does that stop them from getting arrested? Hell no.

Bible says you should stone out of control children. Think that is going to fly?

Religious people are still free to practice their religion, they just have to make the choice.

If "hobby lobby" feels that strongly, they will pay the fines rather than provide healthcare.

They have the freedom to do that.

I can't seem to connect how denying birth control to people is free practice of your religion.

I see it as subjecting others to your religion. You don't want to use birth control... fine. But you can't force that on to others.

In conclusion, if "Hobby Lobby" is what they say they are.... then they have no employees who would use it anyhow. You are either a business OR a religious institution. Gotta make a decision.

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#187516 Mar 29, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of USSC rulings are 4/5 or 5/4 but what if the Hobby Lobby ruling is 6/3?
Later, Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer asked what would happen if Congress passed a law similar to a recent Danish enactment barring the slaughtering of animals while they are conscious. Would for-profit butcher shops run by Jews or Muslims be allowed exemptions? The three women justices were disinclined to exempt for-profit companies. Not so, the six men.
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t...
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.

LOVE that line... yours?

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#187517 Mar 29, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
You do understand you are in America right?
You don't get to make up stupid shit and expect people to defend themselves. That is called Napoleonic justice and it died off... well, with Napoleon.
The burden of proof is on YOU.
... not Obama.
Didn't make anything up? Asked you to prove with a newspaper vital statistics entry, that Barack Hussein Obama was actually born in Hawaii? You made the statement not me.

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#187518 Mar 29, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of USSC rulings are 4/5 or 5/4 but what if the Hobby Lobby ruling is 6/3?
Later, Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer asked what would happen if Congress passed a law similar to a recent Danish enactment barring the slaughtering of animals while they are conscious. Would for-profit butcher shops run by Jews or Muslims be allowed exemptions? The three women justices were disinclined to exempt for-profit companies. Not so, the six men.
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t...
My wife is a radiologist and works for a Catholic Hospital.

They will not provide birth control as of today. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I expect it will be a good reading on how far we have come in the separation of church and state.

I remember a while back... Obama saying that if you work for a place that won't provide birth control, the govt. had a program where it would be provided.

What happened to that?

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#187519 Mar 29, 2014
Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't make anything up? Asked you to prove with a newspaper vital statistics entry, that Barack Hussein Obama was actually born in Hawaii? You made the statement not me.
2 Hawaiian newspapers contained birth announcements... that is fact.

You say they were "planted"... my evidence stands.

Prove it was a plant.

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#187520 Mar 29, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
2 Hawaiian newspapers contained birth announcements... that is fact.
You say they were "planted"... my evidence stands.
Prove it was a plant.
Fact, Let's see your proof, You made the statement, now prove it?

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#187521 Mar 29, 2014
https://www.google.com/search...

Curious... when exactly do you propose these birth announcements were "planted"?
Britegirl

Waukesha, WI

#187522 Mar 29, 2014
Where Mr. Obama came from and sins he may have comitted is irrelevant. He is our true saviour who will help us become better people. I predict that soon there will be peace with socialist Russia and China too. Mexicans will be able to run for our President. Maybe Mrs. Clinton will make a gay Mexican vice-president? Nobody will have to work anymore and they won't want to because we will all be high on marijuana eating baked veggies.
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Scrutinize this: speaking of patterns...
Why did obama (your hero) sign the deed on his house he bought in Chicago in 2009 as 'Harrison J Bounell", and put down his social security #(which obama has been using for years because he stole it)? HJB was born over 123 years ago and has been dead for years!
obama signed the man's name in his own handwriting, using the dead man's SS#, while forging the dead man's name, on the deed of his house, that he bought from Resko, a known and convicted felon. Why is that? And while you are at it, why did Michelle go back in a day later and alter the document?
See any patterns here with obama that involve FRAUD, FORGERY, and THEFT? Because we are seeing that in everything he does. He has been a 5-years scandal-- 24/7/365 in everything he does! obama really fked up on the deed thing. He had to sign it as HJB to match the SS# he has stolen. See anything wrong with that??-lol! In that state they check everything, and obama had no ID that would pass for even little league!!(a valid birth certificate). In his greed he caught himself. Now they have tied him using his stolen SS# BEFORE, and AFTER the deed signing. He even forged the name on his own deed by signing it as HJB. Boy, how dumb can you get??! Law enforcement has the documents. So does Vogt, as well as 75 pages of affidavits to prove all of it.
Arpaio has this as well, and a whole lot more. And yes, it will be UNIVERSE-SHATTERING! Anyone that screws up like this is bound to get caught.
Now....be a good little OBOT and check your goofy Snopes/etc. hack sites for liberal morons, that tries to give you an ounce of credibility-lol! You OBOT'S all act the same: you mock and you lie....just like your hero obama. Then you re-invent the moon! to "justify" the fact that you cannot cover up for this fraudster. NO MATTER how you try, you are in deep shyt with this guy. LOL! Enjoy your ass-kicking at the midterms!, as well as the web of obama's lies that now are surrounding obama. He has no way out no matter what he says (or you). He will be very likely if he doesn't end up in prison for treason. You can bring him his suckers once a month since you are good at that.
ROTFLMAO!!!

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#187523 Mar 29, 2014
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Scrutinize this: speaking of patterns...
Why did obama (your hero) sign the deed on his house he bought in Chicago in 2009 as 'Harrison J Bounell", and put down his social security #(which obama has been using for years because he stole it)? HJB was born over 123 years ago and has been dead for years!
obama signed the man's name in his own handwriting, using the dead man's SS#, while forging the dead man's name, on the deed of his house, that he bought from Resko, a known and convicted felon. Why is that? And while you are at it, why did Michelle go back in a day later and alter the document?
See any patterns here with obama that involve FRAUD, FORGERY, and THEFT? Because we are seeing that in everything he does. He has been a 5-years scandal-- 24/7/365 in everything he does! obama really fked up on the deed thing. He had to sign it as HJB to match the SS# he has stolen. See anything wrong with that??-lol! In that state they check everything, and obama had no ID that would pass for even little league!!(a valid birth certificate). In his greed he caught himself. Now they have tied him using his stolen SS# BEFORE, and AFTER the deed signing. He even forged the name on his own deed by signing it as HJB. Boy, how dumb can you get??! Law enforcement has the documents. So does Vogt, as well as 75 pages of affidavits to prove all of it.
Arpaio has this as well, and a whole lot more. And yes, it will be UNIVERSE-SHATTERING! Anyone that screws up like this is bound to get caught.
Now....be a good little OBOT and check your goofy Snopes/etc. hack sites for liberal morons, that tries to give you an ounce of credibility-lol! You OBOT'S all act the same: you mock and you lie....just like your hero obama. Then you re-invent the moon! to "justify" the fact that you cannot cover up for this fraudster. NO MATTER how you try, you are in deep shyt with this guy. LOL! Enjoy your ass-kicking at the midterms!, as well as the web of obama's lies that now are surrounding obama. He has no way out no matter what he says (or you). He will be very likely if he doesn't end up in prison for treason. You can bring him his suckers once a month since you are good at that.
ROTFLMAO!!!
All in time. I will be happy to discuss all this as soon as you can show me Obama's sister created his BC with a stolen form.

I dislike Obama for a lot of reasons. None of them deviate from reality.

Treason? You are worse off than I thought.

Guilty? Probably... but not for the insanity above.

If you think we still charge presidents with treason... you are crazy. Obama isn't doing anything but improving the model Dubbya left him. More invasive, more efficient, more effective control.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#187524 Mar 29, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>All in time. I will be happy to discuss all this as soon as you can show me Obama's sister created his BC with a stolen form.

I dislike Obama for a lot of reasons. None of them deviate from reality.

Treason? You are worse off than I thought.

Guilty? Probably... but not for the insanity above.

If you think we still charge presidents with treason... you are crazy. Obama isn't doing anything but improving the model Dubbya left him. More invasive, more efficient, more effective control.
You speak sanity. Rouge can't hear that

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Ottawa

#187525 Mar 29, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of USSC rulings are 4/5 or 5/4 but what if the Hobby Lobby ruling is 6/3?
Later, Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer asked what would happen if Congress passed a law similar to a recent Danish enactment barring the slaughtering of animals while they are conscious. Would for-profit butcher shops run by Jews or Muslims be allowed exemptions? The three women justices were disinclined to exempt for-profit companies. Not so, the six men.
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t...
The Danes did NOT grant Jews and Moslems exemptions.

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#187526 Mar 29, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Romney was a shoe-in to win. Slam dunk. And if Ginsberg thought Obama would lose she would resign. But apparently Rougie believes Ginsberg is deaf dumb and blind and couldn't see the handwriting on the wall.
Oooops, then Romney got his arse kicked.
LOL.
Hmmmm, of all the pollsters, Nate Silvers was the one that most consistently said that Obama would win in 2012. Do you still have faith in Nate Silvers for his prediction for the Senatorial races for 2014?
Nate has predicted that the REPUBLICANS have a 60% chance of retaking the Senate this year. What say you?

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#187527 Mar 29, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of USSC rulings are 4/5 or 5/4 but what if the Hobby Lobby ruling is 6/3?
Later, Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer asked what would happen if Congress passed a law similar to a recent Danish enactment barring the slaughtering of animals while they are conscious. Would for-profit butcher shops run by Jews or Muslims be allowed exemptions? The three women justices were disinclined to exempt for-profit companies. Not so, the six men.
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t ...
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
The Danes did NOT grant Jews and Moslems exemptions.
I provided a link, did you?
Oh, as of LAST month they no longer did, did they? And ain't it phunny that a stew ped chopper pilot like me-self could find a link too bake up me point. Methinks you needs two learn too Google!

Denmark

In February 2014, Minister for Food, Agriculture and Fisheries Dan Jørgensen signed a regulation which banned ritual slaughter of animals without prior stunning. Prior to this, religious groups could file for an exemption to the law that required stunning if they wanted to slaughter without prior stunning, although no groups had applied for such exemption. At the time, all halal slaughter in Denmark was performed with prior stunning, while kosher slaughter (which does not allow stunning) had not been practiced in Denmark since around 2004, all kosher meat being imported. In spite of this, the Muslim and Jewish Communities in Denmark strongly opposed the decree, arguing that it constituted an infringement upon religious freedom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aspects_of...

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#187528 Mar 29, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of USSC rulings are 4/5 or 5/4 but what if the Hobby Lobby ruling is 6/3?
Later, Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer asked what would happen if Congress passed a law similar to a recent Danish enactment barring the slaughtering of animals while they are conscious. Would for-profit butcher shops run by Jews or Muslims be allowed exemptions? The three women justices were disinclined to exempt for-profit companies. Not so, the six men.
Look for a likely 6-3 ruling that if you like your god, you can keep your god, even if you also have to make a living.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t ...
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
The Danes did NOT grant Jews and Moslems exemptions.
Hmmmm, I think Denmark, like Canada, has a parliamentary government which means they have a parliament and not have a Congress like we Americans do.
But here is another link that says Denmark DID HAVE religious exemptions for the slaughter of animals. Please note, that is past tense and they did you the word "exemption"!!!

Denmark outlaws Jewish and Muslim ritual slaughter as of next week
By SAM SOKOL - 02/14/2014
"Slaughterhouses will no longer be able to apply for an exemption from pre-stunning."

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#187529 Mar 29, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>All in time. I will be happy to discuss all this as soon as you can show me Obama's sister created his BC with a stolen form.

I dislike Obama for a lot of reasons. None of them deviate from reality.

Treason? You are worse off than I thought.

Guilty? Probably... but not for the insanity above.

If you think we still charge presidents with treason... you are crazy. Obama isn't doing anything but improving the model Dubbya left him. More invasive, more efficient, more effective control.
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
You speak sanity. Rouge can't hear that
Where have I ever said you did the forgery? Come on now, show us where I said that.
Oh, if you read our Constitution, proving someone is treasonous is very difficult. In England back in the 18th Century, it was very easy to do and they would cut you head off Old Henry the 8th was real good at torturing confessions out of people.

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#187530 Mar 29, 2014
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
The way I see it Rogue, the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion.
This only goes so far. The law will always trump religious beliefs.
People have come up with all kinds of crap to make an end run around law using freedom of religion.
There is an entire religion based on marijuana now. Does that stop them from getting arrested? Hell no.
Bible says you should stone out of control children. Think that is going to fly?
Religious people are still free to practice their religion, they just have to make the choice.
If "hobby lobby" feels that strongly, they will pay the fines rather than provide healthcare.
They have the freedom to do that.
I can't seem to connect how denying birth control to people is free practice of your religion.
I see it as subjecting others to your religion. You don't want to use birth control... fine. But you can't force that on to others.
In conclusion, if "Hobby Lobby" is what they say they are.... then they have no employees who would use it anyhow. You are either a business OR a religious institution. Gotta make a decision.
Well, what did Chief Justice Thomas say about that issue a few days ago?
"But there is no law like that on the books." Justice John Roberts shot back, "Isn't that what we are talking about ...?"
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2014/03/28/t...

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