Lol, won't go over the numbers and letters once more, you've, as usual, made your point eloquently but I just cannot agree. That's okay, and as I said, wish we could discuss this over a drink.<quoted text>
Good points, but I don't think you comprehend what I am getting at J.
Look, reality says... you attack the US, we are going to show up and landscape. That is the way it is. Our towers fell to the Islamic Caliphate. Not a country. As far as the US was concerned we were going to retaliate.
Saudi Arabia was the natural target... the obvious target. And I think we both understand exactly why it was avoided. Iraq according to UN and NATO treaties was a justifiable target.
a. You proved my point.
b. Fooling around with non-proliferation treaties encompasses much more than possession of WMDs. Even delaying visits from inspectors is a violation. Saddam was being more than deceptive with the U.N. When they are there to inspect... that is what is up. "Better come back in a week or two.." doesn't fly. What possible reason do you have to deny inspectors access to facilities?
c. We pulled literally dozens of international fugitives out of Iraq. With some real bad mother f**kers topping the list... so the argument that they were innocent of harboring international terrorist is just plain wrong J. Unless you don't think blowing up foreign embassies is quite enough.
d. Again... UN treaty.
The invasion of Iraq was justified legally all day long according to the UN.
We needed a base of operations to combat the caliphate. We could justify it to the UN. And American's could have given a damn which country we set up shop in. New York City was still smoking. As I said... if Bush would have declared war on what we are actually combating people would understand how little boarders matter.
The caliphate does not recognize Middle Eastern boarders.
Iraq wasn't the sweet innocent country you seem to remember it as.
I am not trying to tell you it was cut and dry. I am not trying to make you believe that it wasn't an underhanded move. I am certainly not a fan of how it has been run.
I would be interested to know what Iraqi's think.
There is a documentary on netflix called "The world without us." You should watch it. What is right becomes a bit grey.
I will look at the documentary eventually, as I have Netflix. I've always said I like John McCain, whether I agree with him or not. I think he's an honest broker, a great quality.