BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Grand Birther

United States

#186290 Mar 9, 2014
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>"Runaway Slave" is much more relevant to our country and to our culture,but it won't get any recognition from the left who don't believe in equal opportunity or responsibility. BTW: No one that was alive 205 years ago or even 150 years ago is alive today.
These are some bizarre mental backflips you're going through to hate your perceived enemies. In what world is winning Best Picture, Best Writing and Best Supporting actress at the Oscars; countless other awards foreign and domestic; earning $140,000,000+; articles in every major news outlet; and world wide recognition "not getting recognition from the left?"

In his next schizophrenic breath Fwank's will say "Hollywood is full of liberals blah blah blah."

Good lord, the depths of birfoon willful ignorance know no nadir.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#186291 Mar 9, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of Moron thinks a sitting President of the United States of America should stay at a Motel 6? How uppity!
Obama already has million dollar parties in the White House on a regular basis, as "sitting President" he should concentrating on doing what is in the best interests of all the citizens of the United States, not tying to destroy our country. How is having parties for celebrities and his 'new' Chicago friends in the best interests of our country? How is taking vacations all over the world in the best interests of our country? Even Europeans notice his 'royal' attitude of 'let them eat cake'. He has been a national political figure since 2006,can any one name one thing he has done in the best interests of our country? He was elected to fix the unemployment problem and instead we now have 92 million people that need jobs,the number of people on welfare has doubled, he has doubled the national debt, and he has ignored the problem while pushing his personal agenda that is completely anti-employment.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186293 Mar 9, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
The AMA has become part of the Democrat Party in that only 34% of all active medical doctors are members of the AMA and most of them work for some government entity. Doctors who have their own practice (Small business owners) are almost never members of the AMA.
I was not aware that medical doctors are climatologists? Isn't it funny that Liberals bash people who do not support their opinions but trumpet those that do!!!
Doctors are not qualified, AMA or not, to ponder the effects of climate change on human beings, plant life and animals? Really?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186294 Mar 9, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh course, the Libtards would not have commented on Gov. Palin ...... unless they saw her as a threat to Obama and his Progressive agenda!!!
Same goes for Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ted Cruz, Ron and Rand Paul, etc.
Thanks for taking the words right out of my mouth and listing all the leading Republican losers. And you think , really think, that Abraham Lincoln would even give the time of day to any of these...persons?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186295 Mar 9, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you have repeatedly been unable to articulate exactly what BUSH did to cause the economic problems. In fact, Obama is soooo stupid he can not seem to fix what ever Bush screwed up.
How may of our soldiers have died since Obama entered the White House? Did HE not say HE would get us out of those places? Close GITMO in his first year?!?
And it is Obama who has embolden our enemies as they know they can buffalo Obama. And our friends know they can NOT count on us any more!!!
<quoted text>
Sorry, you have never shown a cause and effect relationship.
And then you give excuses for anything Obama failed to do anything he promised. How Libtardian of you.
I guess you do think layers like Barrack Obama had nothing to do with it? How many of his clients where still in their homes when Obama entered the White House? Less than 10%!!! Yep, out of over 200 clients he represented in lawsuits against those evil banks, on 18 were still in their homes at the end of 2008.
Excuses for what Obama failed to do? I drew up a list yesterday, list of "I didn't like what he did" was as long as list of " I liked what he did". Read, illiterate, read.

the GWB bush disasters - the 2 catastrophic wars , the economy, all under his watch .

Obama savved 18 of 200 people who had overvalued houses way above the mtge value and who could no longer make payments? I think that's pretty damn good. Any other lawyer would've saved zilch. As to GWB in private life, tell us about his baseball ownership and oil company successes. Thank you, daddy, thank you Saudis.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186296 Mar 9, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, don't like that poor people can't buy a house, well pass a law and then sue the evil bankers.
Don't like it that a baker will not bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding, well pass a law and then throw the bigot baker in prison.
Care to document cases where banks, when they refused to lend to deadbeats, were sued by the gov't?

What's the difference between refusing service to a woman, to a black, or to a gay? Aren't there laws against discrimination? Is gay marriage not legal in the state where the baker refused to do a cake? Can we not assume the baker is breaking the law? BTW, the baker IS a bigot. You still haven't looked up "bigot" in a dictionary now have you? Can I lend you one of mine?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186297 Mar 9, 2014
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>"Runaway Slave" deserves more recognition than any movie out there,but will never receive it because it doesn't fit the liberal agenda.
Did someone whack you on the side of the head? Are you okay?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186298 Mar 9, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
These are some bizarre mental backflips you're going through to hate your perceived enemies. In what world is winning Best Picture, Best Writing and Best Supporting actress at the Oscars; countless other awards foreign and domestic; earning $140,000,000+; articles in every major news outlet; and world wide recognition "not getting recognition from the left?"
In his next schizophrenic breath Fwank's will say "Hollywood is full of liberals blah blah blah."
Good lord, the depths of birfoon willful ignorance know no nadir.
You beautifully wrote :"In his next schizophrenic breath Fwank's will say "Hollywood is full of liberals blah blah blah." Well, it's what Reagan thought and dutifully and faithfully reported to Sen McCarthy.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#186299 Mar 9, 2014
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Obama already has million dollar parties in the White House on a regular basis, as "sitting President" he should concentrating on doing what is in the best interests of all the citizens of the United States, not tying to destroy our country. How is having parties for celebrities and his 'new' Chicago friends in the best interests of our country? How is taking vacations all over the world in the best interests of our country? Even Europeans notice his 'royal' attitude of 'let them eat cake'. He has been a national political figure since 2006,can any one name one thing he has done in the best interests of our country? He was elected to fix the unemployment problem and instead we now have 92 million people that need jobs,the number of people on welfare has doubled, he has doubled the national debt, and he has ignored the problem while pushing his personal agenda that is completely anti-employment.
Frank didn't complain about Bush or Reagan parties.

BTW, Frank, visiting foreign dignitaries is not "taking a vacation."

Duh!

Wanna talk about parties?

http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/poli...

It's just when it's a black President that it is suddenly so out-of-bounds. So 'uppity'.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of Moron thinks a sitting President of the United States of America should stay at a Motel 6? How uppity!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#186300 Mar 9, 2014
"On the cool evening of October 16, 1901, President Theodore Roosevelt entertained a sole dinner guest at the White House. The guest had arrived unnoticed, slipping into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue through a side entrance. He was Booker T. Washington, the famed educator, a handsome man with hazel eyes. He had been born a slave, and though slavery had ended four decades earlier, a black man had never before dined at the White House. Roosevelt realized he was engaging in a risky act; the butler serving the meal was a black man, and a sense of worry creased even his face. Lynchings were still common in the nearby Maryland countryside. The condemnation was swift. "No Southern woman with a proper self-respect would now accept an invitation to the White House, nor would President Roosevelt be welcomed today in Southern homes," huffed the Memphis Scimitar. One of the tamer headlines screamed, ROOSEVELT DINES A DARKEY.

Yup Theodore was like Obama, according to Frank, "trying to destroy America."

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#186301 Mar 9, 2014
"Ike and Mamie's successors were certainly not anyone's grandparents. The Kennedys seemed determined to shake things loose inside the White House, melding glamour with culture. Suddenly there were the likes of Igor Stravinsky, Jerome Robbins, and George Balanchine swirling about at state dinners. "I think it is tremendously important that we regard music not just as part of our arsenal in the Cold War but as an integral part of free society," President Kennedy told the New York Times. Likewise, the Chanel, Dior, and Givenchy ensembles Jackie wore were about more than looking good. "She knew at the very least that if she wore something that drew a lot of attention, then the purpose of the event itself would get more coverage," says Carl S. Anthony, historian for the National First Ladies' Library."

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#186302 Mar 9, 2014
When it comes to social personas, perhaps there has been no stranger figure at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue than Richard Nixon. This was a man who walked the San Clemente beaches wearing black wingtips and casually made racist remarks to aides, but who also cackled at White House sleepovers and parties with Sammy Davis Jr. and Duke Ellington. The seemingly incongruous jazz vibe that occasionally took over the Nixon White House can be attributed to special counsel Leonard Garment, a white lawyer from Brooklyn who had once played saxophone in Woody Herman's band and who knew the coolest cats in the jazz world. In 1969, Ellington's 70th birthday was coming up, and Garment suggested the White House host a party for the composer, whose father, incidentally, had been a butler at the White House decades earlier. President Nixon thought it a fine idea and announced he would present the bandleader with the Presidential Medal of Freedom at the soiree. On the evening of April 29, jazz greats — Marian McPartland, Paul Desmond, and Willie "the Lion" Smith among them — arrived at the White House, some toting their instruments. "It was an incredible experience," says Hess, who, in addition to working in the Eisenhower administration, worked for Nixon and attended the Ellington fete. Of course, even when Nixon was playing cool guy, he couldn't escape his own vengeful paranoia. Before the event Ellington himself had called friends of his, former White House lawyer Clifford Alexander Jr. and his wife Adele, telling them he had added them as invitees. But the Nixon White House scratched their names off the list. "I later found out I was on Nixon's enemies list," says Alexander, who had been appointed by Johnson in 1967 to be the first African-American chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission but was later fired by Nixon for his progressive views.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#186303 Mar 9, 2014
"I later found out I was on Nixon's enemies list," says Alexander, who had been appointed by Johnson in 1967 to be the first African-American chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission but was later fired by Nixon for his progressive views.

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I'll never forget CBS correspondent, Daniel Schorr, revealing the Nixon White House "enemies list".

He had just received the list, and started reading it on the air. At one point he got to where his name was on the list!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186304 Mar 9, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Frank didn't complain about Bush or Reagan parties.
BTW, Frank, visiting foreign dignitaries is not "taking a vacation."
Duh!
Wanna talk about parties?
http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/poli...
It's just when it's a black President that it is suddenly so out-of-bounds. So 'uppity'.
<quoted text>
Très intéressant. Merci.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186305 Mar 9, 2014
wojar wrote:
"On the cool evening of October 16, 1901, President Theodore Roosevelt entertained a sole dinner guest at the White House. The guest had arrived unnoticed, slipping into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue through a side entrance. He was Booker T. Washington, the famed educator, a handsome man with hazel eyes. He had been born a slave, and though slavery had ended four decades earlier, a black man had never before dined at the White House. Roosevelt realized he was engaging in a risky act; the butler serving the meal was a black man, and a sense of worry creased even his face. Lynchings were still common in the nearby Maryland countryside. The condemnation was swift. "No Southern woman with a proper self-respect would now accept an invitation to the White House, nor would President Roosevelt be welcomed today in Southern homes," huffed the Memphis Scimitar. One of the tamer headlines screamed, ROOSEVELT DINES A DARKEY.
Yup Theodore was like Obama, according to Frank, "trying to destroy America."
Surely yes,and lest I take the word right out of Rogue's mouth, a flaming bigot.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#186306 Mar 9, 2014
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>Freemason/Catholic Paul Ryan is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He knows very well Kenyan-born Obama the Antichrist could not possibly be construed a "natural-born" U.S. citizen simply because BHO's alleged father was a Brit and never an American. Yet snake in the grass Paulie ignores this fact for fear of race-riots and refuses to forward articles of impeachment on this usurper tyrant. EVERY current member of congress needs to be tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail. The ONLY cure for Bath-house Barry Soetoro is bullets from U.S. Marine Firing Squad. Semper Fidelis.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in hawaii obama birth notices 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen.

And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#186307 Mar 9, 2014
Continuing:

Re: "BHO's alleged father was a Brit and never an American. "

No question about it. But that has no effect whatever because EVERY child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats and enemy invaders.

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

"Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other.“Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297... )

"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186308 Mar 9, 2014
Jacques,
The Republicans keep alienating the independents and the moderates.
They have to dump Rush and they need to ditch Cruz and they should to distance themselves from that motormouth Sarah Palin.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186310 Mar 9, 2014
Jacques,
How can Boeing not know where that Malaysian Airliner, or any other of their planes that carry human cargo, is at all times with pinpoint accuracy anywhere on the globe and in real time?
How can they not know where that plane went down?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186311 Mar 9, 2014
I thought those jets were suposed to be equiped with personal floatation devices for each passenger when they travel over water.

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