BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186182 Mar 6, 2014
Obskeptic wrote:
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Actually Jacques that would be a 19% approval at his low point. Barry will never get that low because the news media will never beat him up as relentlessly as they did Bush. If they started painting him as the incompetent failure at everything that he is, over and over and over like they did W, he would go that low. Whats funny is that the democrats are still selling symbolism over substance and there are enough useful idiots in our country for that strategy to work.
And, is there any way you can make excuses for the Republican-dominated House? Has any congress ever legislated less and blocked more than the present one - unless you include Gingrish's gov't shutdown.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186183 Mar 6, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Oh wow, did you know he was 30 years old when WWII started and they need ,men 18-25 the most? Do you know out of the eight million men and women in uniform less than half went into a combat zone? No you don't because you are a flaming BIGOT!!!
If the United States is not number ONE, why are 12-20 million illegal aliens in our country and why are millions more trying to get here legal or otherwise? Canada at best is a second choice!!!
Again, you write from your azz, not your poor brain. You wrote : "If the United States is not number ONE, why are 12-20 million illegal aliens in our country and why are millions more trying to get here legal or otherwise? Canada at best is a second choice. " Well, I haven't any numbers yet for Canada, but I know it's high and will find them. In the meantime, and here I'm ridiculising your claim that you're number one in welcoming illegals or otherwise, check this out :

Statistics at a glance from Refugee Week, For more statistics, visit the Refugee Council of Australia website: www.refugeecouncil.org.au

•The four major refugee hosting countries in 2011 were: Pakistan (1.6 million), followed by Iran (868,200), Germany (589,700) and Kenya (565,000).
•Pakistan hosted the largest number of refugees in relation to the size of its economy with 552 refugees per 1 USD DGP (PPP) per capita. Ethiopia (303) and Kenya (301) were second and third respectively.
•More than half (55%) of all refugees worldwide came from five countries: Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, Syria and Sudan.
•During 2012, there were more than 893,700 individual applications for asylum or refugee status submitted. The United States received the most applications with close to 70,400 claims registered in 2012, followed by Germany (64,500), South Africa (61,500) and France (55,100).

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Pakistan, Iran, yes Iran, Germany, Kenya, all beat you out, Rogue. How about that? France had fewer refugees than the US, as did Germany and South Africa, BUT, based on population, all these countries received more refugees per capita than the U.S.

Will this finally make you think just a second before issuing more ridiculous statements, Rogue? Were you an adviser to Sarah Palin by any chance?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#186185 Mar 6, 2014
Here's a meaningful statistic for you, Rogue :

Australia’s world rankings for refugee intake are very different to those claimed Chris Bowen. However, Australia does rank highly in the resettlement of refugees. Resettlement is a scheme whereby a third country takes refugees who cannot be safely settled in the country they originally sought asylum. In 2012, less than one per cent of refugees were re-settled. Most countries do not have official resettlement programs and in 2012 only 27 countries resettled refugees. According to the Refugee Council of Australia, Australia ranked second in 2012 for the resettlement of refugees per capita (0.267 refugees per 1,000 population) beaten only by Canada (0.283 per 1,000). In absolute terms the top three resettlement countries were America (66,300), Canada (9,600) and Australia (5,900).

www.factsfightback.org.au/

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As Canada has 1/10 the U.S.'s population, the 9,600 number dwarfs the U.S.'s 66,300 per capita.

According to ccrweb.ca/en/how-generous, Canada is 33rd in the world, ahead of the U.S. Chart shows that the biggest receivers of refugees are strife-ridden poor countries whose refugees go from the fire into the frying pan, in reverse. For example, and thanks to GWB's Iraq invasion, Iraqi Catholics sought refuge in...Syria. Anyhow, if one discounts the third world countries that attract refugees, Canada would place 9th in welcoming refugees.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#186186 Mar 6, 2014
Rouge Scholar
You said Even if we detonate all the nuclear weapons on this Earth at the same time, the Earth will have returned to normal within a year or two.
How in the heck can you type something so stupid like that?? Nuclear Winter.
You need to read
The Cold & The Dark by Paul R. Ehrlich and Carl Sagan
Life After Nuclear War Arthur M. Katz
wojar

Bristol, CT

#186187 Mar 6, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Sun's Current Solar Activity Cycle Is Weakest in a Century
By Mike Wall, Senior Writer | December 11, 2013 06:50pm ET
SAN FRANCISCO — The sun's current space-weather cycle is the most anemic in 100 years, scientists say.
Our star is now at "solar maximum," the peak phase of its 11-year activity cycle. But this solar max is weak, and the overall current cycle, known as Solar Cycle 24, conjures up comparisons to the famously feeble Solar Cycle 14 in the early 1900s, researchers said.
"None of us alive have ever seen such a weak cycle. So we will learn something," Leif Svalgaard of Stanford University told reporters here today (Dec. 11) at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union.[Solar Max: Amazing Sun Storm Photos of 2013]
The learning has already begun. For example, scientists think they know why the solar storms that have erupted during Solar Cycle 24 have caused relatively few problems here on Earth.
The sun often blasts huge clouds of superheated particles into space, in explosions known as coronal mass ejections (CMEs). Powerful CMEs that hit Earth squarely can trigger geomagnetic storms, which in turn can disrupt radio communications, GPS signals and power grids.
But such effects have rarely been seen during Solar Cycle 24, even though the total number of CMEs hasn't dropped off much, if at all. The explanation, researchers said, lies in the reduced pressure currently present in the heliosphere, the enormous bubble of charged particles and magnetic fields that the sun puffs out around itself.
This lower pressure has allowed CMEs to expand greatly as they cruise through space, said Nat Gopalswamy of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. Indeed, Solar Cycle 24 CMEs are, on average, 38 percent bigger than those measured during the last cycle — a difference with real consequences for folks here on Earth.
"When the CMEs expand more, the magnetic field inside the CMEs has lower strength," Gopalswamy said. "So when you have lower-strength magnetic fields, then they cause milder geomagnetic storms."
This image, captured by NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) on March 10, 2012, shows an active region on the sun, seen as the bright spot to the right. Designated AR 1429, the spot has so far produced three X-class flares and numerous M-class flares.
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Scientists also think they know why relatively few super-fast solar energetic particles, or SEPS, have been measured in Earth's neighborhood during the current cycle, which began in early 2008. It has to do with a weakened interplanetary magnetic field, another characteristic of Solar Cycle 24, they say.
Large SEP events, which can pose a danger to astronauts in Earth orbit, are created by the shock waves driven by CMEs. But fewer of these particles are getting accelerated by such shocks these days, said Joe Giacalone of the University of Arizona.
"When the magnetic field is weaker, the particles are not trapped near the shock as effectively," Giacalone said. "They're going much farther upstream and downstream of the shock wave, and it takes a lot longer for them to get to very high energies."
The strength or weakness of a solar cycle appears to be driven by the intensity of the sun's polar magnetic field during the previous cycle. The polar field is thought to feed the sunspots— dark and relatively cool patches on the sun that are the source of CMEs and solar flares — that come in during the next cycle, Gopalswamy said.
The polar field was weak during Solar Cycle 23, so researchers suspected that Solar Cycle 24 would be underwhelming. Predictions about Solar Cycle 25 should start coming in two or three years, when the polar field reappears, Svalgaard said.
Follow Mike Wall on Twitter @michaeldwall and Google+. Follow us @Spacedotcom, Facebook or Google+. Originally published on SPACE.com .
And Rouge hallucinates that the article said "ice age" somewhere between the lines.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#186188 Mar 6, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
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Yet another new record set for Dumbest Thing Ever Written on The Internet by 10 time champion, Rogue Moron!
Congrats!
Apparently Rouge thinks mass extinctions are routine.
Rogue Moron 05 wrote:
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Even if we detonate all the nuclear weapons on this Earth at the same time, the Earth will have returned to normal within a year or two.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#186189 Mar 6, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Have you noticed how many Blue Dog Democrats are now REPUBLICANS?!? Yep, the Progressives have driven most of the Blue Dogs out of their party and now they are becoming Republican moderates. And I thought the Democrat Party was the Big Tent Party? Not since the Progressives took over!!!
Ex Democratic Representative Taylor Running In GOP Primary
Posted: Feb 28, 2014 4:10 PM EST Updated: Feb 28, 2014 4:10 PM EST
A longtime Democratic congressman who lost his south Mississippi seat in 2010 says he's entering the Republican primary in hopes of regaining the seat.
Gene Taylor said he planned to file qualifying papers Friday for the 4th Congressional District election. The primary is June 3.
The 4th District incumbent is Republican Steven Palazzo, who defeated Taylor in 2010.
Taylor was first elected to the U.S. House in 1989 after having served in the state Senate. He was a conservative Blue Dog Democrat who often went against his party leadership in Washington.
Later Rouge will call them RINOs.
Obskeptic

Livonia, MI

#186190 Mar 7, 2014
wojar wrote:
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Says the birfoon who fantasizes that "the media" is left wing.
BTW, Jimmy Carter was ruthlessly criticized by the so called "liberal" press.
Fantasy that the media is left wing? It's statements like that Woj that causes people to question your intellectual honesty. Even Columbia University reports that the media is left wing. I know your a smart guy, it's your honesty and integrity thats in question.
Obskeptic

Livonia, MI

#186191 Mar 7, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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And, is there any way you can make excuses for the Republican-dominated House? Has any congress ever legislated less and blocked more than the present one - unless you include Gingrish's gov't shutdown.
There's plenty of legislation coming out of the house Jacques. The blocking is happening in the partisan controlled senate under that smarmy POS Harry Reid.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186192 Mar 7, 2014
Nuclear Holocaust
________

Nuclear holocaust refers to a possible complete or nearly complete annihilation of human civilization by nuclear warfare. Under such a scenario, all or most of the Earth is made uninhabitable by nuclear weapons.

The English word "holocaust" derives from the Greek word "holokaustos", meaning completely burnt, is commonly defined as a great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.

Wiki

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186193 Mar 7, 2014
"As it stands, the US Department of Defense is the largest polluter in the world, producing more hazardous waste than the five largest US chemical companies combined.
Depleted uranium, petroleum, pesticides, lead, defoliants such as Agent Orange, along with vast amounts of radiation from weapons produced, tested, and used, are just some of the pollutants with which the US military is contaminating the environment."

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186194 Mar 7, 2014
Jacques,
The information contained in my last post is easily verifiable.
I didn't feel like giving a reference for the disbelievers stuck on stupid.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186195 Mar 7, 2014
Jacques,
The Republican Party is in hog heaven when they have terriers like Marsha Blackburn (TN-7) barking orders.
loose
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#186196 Mar 7, 2014
So one moron posted a 3 year old video, labelled it "breaking", and fooled Tacky.

Poor Tacky, how's it feel to be the most ignorant of all Birfoons?

Obskeptic

Livonia, MI

#186199 Mar 7, 2014
loose cannon wrote:
"As it stands, the US Department of Defense is the largest polluter in the world, producing more hazardous waste than the five largest US chemical companies combined.
Depleted uranium, petroleum, pesticides, lead, defoliants such as Agent Orange, along with vast amounts of radiation from weapons produced, tested, and used, are just some of the pollutants with which the US military is contaminating the environment."
Whats your conclusion then "loose"?
Obskeptic

Livonia, MI

#186200 Mar 7, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
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The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refer to the place of birth, and every child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats and enemy invaders.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
More reading on the subject:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...
That is why birthers and two-fers were not able to convince a single member of the US Electoral College to change her or his vote to vote against Obama in either the 2008 or 2012 elections. Obama won 356 electoral votes in the 2008 general election, and 356 electors voted for him. He received 332 votes in the 2012 general election, and 332 electors voted for him. In short, not one single elector changed her or his vote—that is because not one of them believes the nutty birther claim that Obama was born outside of the USA or the loony birther constitutional theory that two citizen parents are required. And ditto for the US Congress, which confirmed Obama’s election UNANIMOUSLY twice, and that included the votes of Rep. Michele Bachmann and Rep. Ron Paul).
I agree with you on the citizenship thing and eligibility "Ellen 1". If there were any there there it would have been uncovered by now for real, not just wishful thinking. What speaks volumes though is the fact that democrats and a majority actually believed that Barry had a resume that qualified him for the job. Now that we have had the test of time to judge what kind of leadership he has delivered versus the emotion surrounding electing our first black president, it is obvious that the country made a massive error in judgement. His current polling numbers makes what I am saying even more credible then just someone who never thought he should have made into the job in the first place due to his lack of experience. Community organizer? what a sad a cruel joke that is as a resume qualification.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#186201 Mar 7, 2014
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Jacques that would be a 19% approval at his low point. Barry will never get that low because the news media will never beat him up as relentlessly as they did Bush. If they started painting him as the incompetent failure at everything that he is, over and over and over like they did W, he would go that low. Whats funny is that the democrats are still selling symbolism over substance and there are enough useful idiots in our country for that strategy to work.
Overall I agree, except I am not real sure what you mean exactly by symbolism/substance.

I don't remember substance being a tangible thing for a long time now.

I don't believe in the accuracy of polls. That probably stems from our media having clearly chosen their respective "sides". When MSNBC obviously twists their figures and Fox can't even post an intellectually honest graph... there is no one left to believe. And in a sense... there is no one left to lie to.

Obama ... contrary to popular belief, did not win on symbolism. He won because he wasn't George Bush and couldn't be linked to a Bush.

The second time he won was certainly not about merit. It was that Romney is not electable. I know GOP fanatics can't wrap their heads around that... but it is true. America had been stripped of it's industry and sold to the highest bidder. Putting a guy who helped make that happen in front of us as an answer... well, I have mentioned before that I seriously believe the GOP has been purposefully dodging the presidency. I can't imagine the motivation, but I am sure one exists.

And now... citizen's united was not done away with. Anyone in the world can buy our White House. China could covertly run a candidate and not only would they have a real solid chance of winning... we would never be the wiser. Corporations are people too now and we are no longer entitled to know where candidates are getting their cash flow from.

I don't run around saying that Hillary is our next pres. for nothing. If you look back, and look at what is taking place now it seems to me that she will win simply because it is her turn. I hate to think that is what America has come to... but scientifically speaking, "It's Hillary's turn" is as plausible (maybe more) as any other scenario.

Be well.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#186202 Mar 7, 2014
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
The information contained in my last post is easily verifiable.
I didn't feel like giving a reference for the disbelievers stuck on stupid.
.. and you shouldn't have to.

Besides... I think the list of credible internet sources agreed on by both sides of this thread has been shortened to a nice, very round, single digit number.

If you can't prove the info false.. point at the source.
If you can't impeach the source... point at the carrier.
If the carrier can't be impeached... the poster is flawed somehow.

Regardless, the info stands. People here keep their "mental minds" locked up tight.

Nothing gets in.

What did this person from Tennessee do anyway?

I don't pay attention unless I am looking for something particular, but I am sure that she did something to warrant this much of your attention... what gives?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186203 Mar 7, 2014
Scrutiny,
Marsha Blackburn is a blackeye on American politics.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#186204 Mar 7, 2014
Scrutiny,
Marsha Blackburn embodies everything that is wrong with the Republicans.
She discredits the whole GOP.

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