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#184935 Feb 6, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So you think the senate may go Repub? Will this prediction come true like all your others? Want me to enumerate them again? Ok, sigh, here goes:
1. Jacksonville mayoralty race : WRONG. Whose fault? The damn press
2. Obamacare Supreme Court decision : WRONG. Whose fault ? Obama bought off Roberts
3. November 6 presidential election WRONG. Whose fault? The polls, they misled you.Again
4. The trucker's "march" on Washington. WRONG. Whose fault? Not yet established but not yours
5. That court(s) would find Obama's birth cert is forged and that he was born in Kenya: WRONG 218 time. Whose fault? Democrat-apptd communist cowardly judges, ALL 218 of them
And so many more "left field" predictions. 4000 characters not sufficient.
There you go again, quoting my NON-quotes.
1. I never said who would win the mayoral race here in Jacksonville. I quoted a local paper which had the Republican candidate up by ten points TWO weeks before the election. A few DAYS before the election all they said was the election was to close to call. Remember, I do not do surveys.
2. Yes, ObabaCare was most held Constitutional with the except of the STATE mandates. There is something very fish why Roberts switched his vote and we may never know why.
3. Again, for the month before the election most polls had Romney leading but they closed the last few days before the election. Again, I was quoting polls and where not MY prediction.
4. In truckers protest I was 100% correct. It did not materialize they way it was hyped and I SAID THAT IT WOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANT!!! And you can not show me where I said other wise either.
5. And no court has been allowed to rule on whether of not the BCs are real or forged.
And in my latest "prediction", all I did was show a left-of-center article about the problems and that it is a FACT that a much higher rate of Democrats are not running for reelection!!!

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#184936 Feb 6, 2014
Hey La Jacqueau, this is from the left-of-center Washington Post. What are THEY predicting?!? This is THEIR opinion, not mine!!!

What Henry Waxman’s retirement tells us about the 2014 election
By Aaron Blake January 30 at 11:15 am

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) announced Thursday that he won't seek reelection to Congress this November.

The lesson? Democrats aren't really counting on re-taking the House in 2014.

Waxman is the fourth top Democrat on a House committee who has either called it quits or opted to run for another office, and a fifth -- House Agriculture Committee Ranking Member Collin Peterson (D-Minn.)-- said this week that he's still weighing his options.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...

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#184937 Feb 6, 2014
Libtardian Logic, I post an article so the Libtards think it is MY prediction!!!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184938 Feb 6, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Libtardian Logic, I post an article so the Libtards think it is MY prediction!!!
You triumphantly post it, you own it. Rogue. This is why all your rebuttals are nul and void. Should I approvingly post Das Kapital excerpts, I'd rightly be labelled a communist, like American lady with her Pravda or (gotta balance this else...) approvingly post excerpts from Mein Kampf, I'd rightly be labelled a Nazi.

Let's say I predict Dems will rule the House in November 2014, based on media reports. Dems lose. Who do I blame, the media? How do you think pundits make predictions? And when they are wrong, they blame either themselves or factors that changed the outcome.Not the press. You've made many many bad/wrong predictions and accusation to cover your totally-biased views, like sore-losing - who'll forget Obama buying off John Roberts, the electorate, etc.? Who'll forget those bought-off 218 judges? And on it goes. You predict and judge based on you hate factor. Not very scientific.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184939 Feb 6, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey La Jacqueau, this is from the left-of-center Washington Post. What are THEY predicting?!? This is THEIR opinion, not mine!!!
What Henry Waxman’s retirement tells us about the 2014 election
By Aaron Blake January 30 at 11:15 am
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) announced Thursday that he won't seek reelection to Congress this November.
The lesson? Democrats aren't really counting on re-taking the House in 2014.
Waxman is the fourth top Democrat on a House committee who has either called it quits or opted to run for another office, and a fifth -- House Agriculture Committee Ranking Member Collin Peterson (D-Minn.)-- said this week that he's still weighing his options.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...
This strangely resembles the pro-Romney editorials in the majority of newspapers in the U.S. Not being able to come to your own conclusions, you blamed the press for prematurely celebrating Romney's victory by buying dancing shoes. This time, should the Dems retake the House, and keep the Senate, will you blame Collin Petersen and others who resigned their seats? Most likely you will.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184940 Feb 6, 2014
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I disagree with you on this one Jaques. For starters, why is what you think any more important or relevant then what I think? Why should your thinking prevail? In the skilled trades, which includes landscapers, there is not a company around the Detroit area that pays minimum wage. Starting wage is $3.00 to $4.00 more then that. My cheapest guy makes $15 per hour. The overwhelming majority of minimum wage earners is teenagers just starting out in the job market and they are mostly retail and food service jobs. If you don't want to be poor in America then finish high school, get married to a good and responsible partner, and stay away from addiction. Do those three simple things and the likelihood of being "poor" is very slim. For some reason liberals have serious contempt for hard work unless its work dedicated to siphoning wealth from others that work, like politics.
Sorry to disappoint, Obskeptic, but unlike you, I don't preach ex-cathedra, I just give my opinion and, again, unlike you, I don't expect anyone to agree with me, for I am not the repository of what is wise. I do cherish freedom of speech as much as I respect others' well-presented non-ad hominem opinions.

Now, the latest numbers tell us there are close to 50 million Americans on food stamps. Can they all be jobless citizens? Were that the case, unemployment would be in the 30% range No, Obskeptic, many of those 50 million are employed workers who just don't make enough to make ends meet. There are lazy shiftless people among us, yes, but not every person that's out of work or holding a low-paying job is unambitious , lazy or shiftless. To so generalize millions is not unlike Rogue who enjoys branding as "libatards" (read dem or progressive) anyone who does something stupid like tipping that toilet.

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#184941 Feb 6, 2014
wojar wrote:
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I know people who were managers and upper level management, who had years of experience and were let go because the company couldn't afford to pay them in the downturn. They were "overqualified" for the crap jobs left in the wake of the Dubya Depression. They failed to prepare themselves?
MORON.
What "Dubya" DEPRESSION? The Housing Mortgage Bubble that bust was caused by Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton and the stock Market Bubble was an aftermath of the busting of the Housing Mortgage Bubble.
If this is not true, show us the cause and efefct relationship between what G.W. did od failed to do to cause these things.

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#184942 Feb 6, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
This strangely resembles the pro-Romney editorials in the majority of newspapers in the U.S. Not being able to come to your own conclusions, you blamed the press for prematurely celebrating Romney's victory by buying dancing shoes. This time, should the Dems retake the House, and keep the Senate, will you blame Collin Petersen and others who resigned their seats? Most likely you will.
No, I will give credit to ObamaCare. It is highly unlikely for the Dems to reclaim the House and it will be more likely that they will also lose the majority in the Senate. 2014 will be a bad year for the Socialists!
You can also expect a few Progressive be replaced by Blue Dog moderates. Bye bye, RIP Waxman

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#184943 Feb 6, 2014
Henry Waxman to retire at end of congressional session
By Karen Tumulty, Published: January 30

.......and that it is not a reflection of the Democrats’ dim prospects for winning back the House and restoring him to a committee chairmanship.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/henry-...

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#184944 Feb 6, 2014
House Democrat slams Obamacare… after announcing his retirement first

A top House Democrat slammed Obamacare’s inability “to work”— but only after he announced his impending retirement from Congress.

12-term Virginia Rep. Jim Moran, an Appropriations Committee member who said this month that he will not seek re-election in 2014, said that not enough young people are signing up for Obamacare coverage to make the law work.

“I’m afraid that the millennials, if you will, are less likely to sign up. I think they feel more independent, I think they feel a little more invulnerable than prior generations. But I don’t think we’re going to get enough young people signing up to make this bill work as it was intended to financially,” Moran said in an interview with WAMU American University Radio.

“And, frankly, there’s some legitimacy to their concern because the government spends about $7 for the elderly for every $1 it spends on the young,” Moran said.

“I just don’t know how we’re going to do it frankly. If we had a solution I’d be telling the president right now,” Moran said.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/27/house-democ...

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#184945 Feb 6, 2014


"Left" and "Right": A little Bible study

Remember what Jesus said:'Goats on the left, sheep on the right'.

To Peter,'if you want to catch fish do it from the right side of the boat.

They did and filled the boat.

Left & Right...
Origin of Left & Right...

I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left”.

By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV) Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen.

Can't get any simpler than that.

Spelling Lesson
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats

End of lesson.

Test to follow in November 6, 2014.

Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent removal month.

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#184946 Feb 6, 2014
This is Relaxing and Therapeutic. It also helps with some depression as stated below.

When you get down and out, maybe a little depressed, it always helps to think of your friends enduring harder times than yourself.

For me, this has helped tremendously. What fun!!!!

If he gets stuck between the balls click and drag him to get him moving again. Click him and shake the crap out of him!

http://media.y8.com/system/contents/13365/ori...
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184947 Feb 6, 2014
wojar wrote:
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As you know the US can not strip a citizenship of a foreign country, unless requested by the naturalization process. Yep, the Ark case created a new type of citizen, a dual-citizen, which is on the same footing as a naturalized citizen.
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Dufus Dale says James Madison is irrelevant ; US cannot strip a citizenship pf a foreign country.
Then Dufus Dale turns around and says, no one's citizenship is stripped.
Dufus Dale just admitted Play Law is irrelevant. It breaks down every which way Dale turns.
And Dufus still cannot seem to comprehend that as he invokes Vattel for the 14th Amendment, Vattel's clearly stated definition of jurisdiction covers aliens living in the United States so their US born children are natural born citizens. Play Law simply fails.
LMAO!!! Not my problem that you can't read and your spin leaves a lot to be desired.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184948 Feb 6, 2014
Ellen1 wrote:
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The answer is quite simple. The writers of the US Constitution disagreed with you. They thought that a US-born dual citizen IS better than a naturalized citizen. And they thought that a naturalized citizen had questionable allegiance but that a US-born dual citizen has allegiance ONLY to the place of her or his birth.
That is what Blackstone wrote:
“….that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once.”
And there is a quotation from James Madison indicating that he thought exactly the same way, that allegiance goes with the PLACE of birth---not the parents.
Your nutty idea is simply yours---not that of the writers of the US Constitution. And, using your nutty idea you are then READING into the Constitution and assuming that the writers of the US Constitution thought the way that you did, so that you can insert into the Constitution something that it does not say. Well, doing that to the Constitution is not merely wrong---it is immoral.
You cannot read into the US Constitution something that it does not say. And it does not say that two US citizen parents are required to be president. In fact, there is not a word in the US Constitution that says either that the US-born children of foreigners or that US-born dual citizens are not eligible to become president. Not a word.
Under strict construction (remember that?) you cannot interpret the Constitution as saying something unless it actually does says it-----and it does NOT say that two citizen parents are required or that a dual citizen is barred from becoming president. It does not say either of those things.
Under libertarian principles neither a law nor the Constitution can take away a right or a privilege unless the Constitution specifically allows that thing to be taken away. And, the Constitution does not specifically take away the right or privilege of the US-born children of foreigners to become president, and it does not take away the right or privilege of the US-born dual citizens either. It does not take away either of those things. It does not SAY any such thing.
And yet slimy Dale wants gullible people to ignore good conservative legal principles such as strict construction and good conservative moral principles such as libertarianism. Why? Why SLIMY Dale? Why?
Nasty!!! You are correct! A NBC has only one allegiance, guess that leaves Obama out, at the moment of birth he was a citizen of his father's country and owed it direct allegiance.
Now you want to try for a dual-citizenship status?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184949 Feb 6, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale needs to sober up and reverse decades of brain damage (or perhaps it is congenital feeble-mindedness).
LMAO!!! I do just fine with half my brain tied behind my back. Hell, it doesn't take much to turn the thoughts of liberals into mush.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

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#184950 Feb 6, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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No, I will give credit to ObamaCare. It is highly unlikely for the Dems to reclaim the House and it will be more likely that they will also lose the majority in the Senate. 2014 will be a bad year for the Socialists!
You can also expect a few Progressive be replaced by Blue Dog moderates. Bye bye, RIP Waxman
You have no idea what a socialist is now, do you?

Democrats in in your country are the exact equivalent of Canada's Conservative party, the U.K's Conservative party and Germany's Christian Democrats (also conservatives). There is not a drop of socialist blood in Obama's party, the democratic party, save for some initiatives such as Unemp ins, social security, laughable maternity leave, safety on the job and some form of early 20th century health care (obamacare -still better than the alternative - zilch).

There are no socialist parties in the U.S., get that into your head. Like the metric system and 220 volts, socialism is communist.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#184951 Feb 6, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Nasty!!! You are correct! A NBC has only one allegiance, guess that leaves Obama out, at the moment of birth he was a citizen of his father's country and owed it direct allegiance.
Now you want to try for a dual-citizenship status?
According to American law, which is what counts, everyone born on US soil except for the children of foreign diplomats has only one allegiance. Only one allegiance is allowed to persons born on US soil---regardless of whether they are dual citizens or not.(Don't believe it? Well check on what we define as treason. A person who was born on US soil (unless the child of a foreign diplomat) would be considered a traitor if she or he gave aid and comfort to an enemy---REGARDLESS of whether she or had dual citizen status.)

Our law holds, as Blackstone did, and as Madison agree, that there can be only ONE allegiance, and that is to the country that is the PLACE of birth.

Furthermore, you cannot read into the US Constitution something that it does not say. And it does not say that two US citizen parents are required to be president. In fact, there is not a word in the US Constitution that says either that the US-born children of foreigners or that US-born dual citizens are not eligible to become president. Not a word.

Under strict construction (remember that?) you cannot interpret the Constitution as saying something unless it actually does says it-----and it does NOT say that two citizen parents are required or that a dual citizen is barred from becoming president. It does not say either of those things.

Under libertarian principles neither a law nor the Constitution can take away a right or a privilege unless the Constitution specifically allows that thing to be taken away. And, the Constitution does not specifically take away the right or privilege of the US-born children of foreigners to become president, and it does not take away the right or privilege of the US-born dual citizens either. It does not take away either of those things. It does not SAY any such thing.

And yet slimy Dale wants gullible people to ignore good conservative legal principles such as strict construction and good conservative moral principles such as libertarianism. Why?

The Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." And there is nothing in either the Constitution or in ANY of the writings of the men who were in the Constitutional Convention, or such other American leaders at the time as John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. There NOTHING in any of their writings that says that the US-born children of foreigners are not as eligible as the US-born children of US citizens. Nothing. But slimy Dale would like to throw out that principle too.

SLIMY SLIMY Dale thinks that he can convince a few gullible people that the writers of the US Constitution (who never said any such thing) really believed that the US-born children of foreigners (such as perhaps your father or grandfather) are really not as good citizens as the US-born children of US-citizens.

IF the writers of the Constitution had been afraid of the US-born children of foreigners, they would have said so, but they never said so, so why assume that they were afraid? Why does slimy Dale want to throw out strict construction judicial interpretation AND libertarian principles, and ALSO throw out "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"? Who says that the US-born children of foreigners are not created equal with the US born children of US citizens in terms of being eligible to be president? Only slimy Dale.

Why does SLIMY Dale want to throw out Strict Construction and Libertarian principles and "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal..." ? Why SLIMY Dale? Why?
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#184952 Feb 6, 2014
Fake Grand Birther wrote:
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no one cares about illiterate fantasies.
You obviously care! Lick, Lick, Lick!
Mr. Obama, Your House of
Cards May Be Tumbling Down

(Feb. 4, 2014)— In my last post I related that 175 federal judges had received copies of Doug Vogt’s affidavit which forensically established probable cause to believe that Barack Hussein Obama’s certificates of live birth are forgeries. The cover letter accompanying the affidavit asked each Judge to refer the evidence contained in Doug’s 95 page public affidavit – and 75 page sealed affidavit – to a Grand Jury to investigate.

One of my faithful – though anonymous – followers recently added a note to my last post stating:“So it has been almost a month now and not a single update. I think I can guess what the responses have all been.“snicker – snicker.”

Au contraire, mon ami. In fact three (3) federal judges have acknowledged receipt of Doug’s Affidavit. Two of them have forwarded the affidavit to their respective United States Attorneys. The third wrote back stating:“I was very impressed by the letter and attachments you sent to me. I do not dismiss the allegations you make as untrue.” The letter continued with the commitment to submit Doug’s affidavit to the Grand Jury for their consideration. So like a modern-day Diogenes, perhaps we have found one honest federal district court judge.

Let me posit what will happen next. Doug and I – a former criminal prosecutor with extensive experience presenting evidence to a grand jury and securing indictments – will be invited to appear before the Grand Jury. Doug to detail the forensic evidence contained in his affidavit; Me to explain the legal options available to the Grand Jury to follow up on the evidence that Doug presents them. Operating outside the control of the United States Attorney’s office and with the support of the federal judge and the United States Marshal’s Service, a dozen federal Grand Jury subpoenas will be issued and served by the Marshal’s Service nationwide. The originals of Obama’s birth records from Hawaii, college transcripts from the three colleges he attended, along with his Social Security and Selective Service records would all be compelled to be produced to this Eric Holder-free Grand Jury. Additionally, the players in the Obama Birth Certificate pageant would all be called to testify as to their roles: Remember, there is no Fifth Amendment privilege to refuse to answer a question put to a witness by a Grand Jury.

Which is why I say, Mr. Obama, the People have some questions for you.

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#184953 Feb 6, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You have no idea what a socialist is now, do you?
Democrats in in your country are the exact equivalent of Canada's Conservative party, the U.K's Conservative party and Germany's Christian Democrats (also conservatives). There is not a drop of socialist blood in Obama's party, the democratic party, save for some initiatives such as Unemp ins, social security, laughable maternity leave, safety on the job and some form of early 20th century health care (obamacare -still better than the alternative - zilch).
There are no socialist parties in the U.S., get that into your head. Like the metric system and 220 volts, socialism is communist.
What is you smokin'?
No, socialism is NOT communism. But Communism is a form of socialism. Communism is a country which is one big commune!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#184954 Feb 6, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously care! Lick, Lick, Lick!
Mr. Obama, Your House of
Cards May Be Tumbling Down
(Feb. 4, 2014)— In my last post I related that 175 federal judges had received copies of Doug Vogt’s affidavit which forensically established probable cause to believe that Barack Hussein Obama’s certificates of live birth are forgeries. The cover letter accompanying the affidavit asked each Judge to refer the evidence contained in Doug’s 95 page public affidavit – and 75 page sealed affidavit – to a Grand Jury to investigate...... Operating outside the control of the United States Attorney’s office and with the support of the federal judge and the United States Marshal’s Service, a dozen federal Grand Jury subpoenas will be issued and served by the Marshal’s Service nationwide. The originals of Obama’s birth records from Hawaii, college transcripts from the three colleges he attended, along with his Social Security and Selective Service records would all be compelled to be produced to this Eric Holder-free Grand Jury. Additionally, the players in the Obama Birth Certificate pageant would all be called to testify as to their roles: Remember, there is no Fifth Amendment privilege to refuse to answer a question put to a witness by a Grand Jury.
Which is why I say, Mr. Obama, the People have some questions for you.
Doug Vogt claims that he found "the original altar of Abraham" (but he never showed it, I wonder why not???). In other words, he is a NUT. If you don't believe me, here is his site:

http://www.vectorpub.com/Reality_Revealed.htm...

And Doug Vogt is just one of MANY birther LIARS, who created the following lies:

(1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama---so who do you think forged it?(Okay, I'll make it easy---the guy who posted it.)

(2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia---but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

(3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---but the transcript of the call shows that she said the he was BORN IN HAWAII---why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

(4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

(5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

(6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

(7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"---but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they posted those videos? Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates."

AND, they are LYING about Obama's birth certificate being forged as well.

And they cannot answer this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogge...

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