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Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184789 Feb 2, 2014
loose cannon wrote:
Gibson Corp. admitted to violating the Lacey Act.
The Rosewood was linked to organized crime syndicates who illegally harvested the timber from Madagascar National Parks and laundered the logs through China, who then exported boards to the United States and Europe.
Wiki.
Sooo, was Gibson a conspirator or a victim? And why did the Obama's DoJ not go after out instrument makers that used that wood?
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184790 Feb 2, 2014
Yep, the Chinese do a lot of dirty business. But does that mean some Americans are involved?

'Honey laundering' means fake honey coming in from China, experts warn
By Gitte Laasby of the Journal Sentinel
May 9, 2013

Honey isn't what it used to be.

Consumers continue to demand cheaper and cheaper products, and there's a shortage of honey in the United States because consumers buy about 400 million pounds per year but producers only supply 150 million pounds. So foreign businesses, especially manufacturers in China, are capitalizing on the sweet opportunity.

They're selling honey cut with cheap sweeteners, sugar water or high-fructose corn syrup. Some of the honey also contains unauthorized antibiotics and pesticides, the Modern Farmer reports.

In February, two of America's biggest honey suppliers, Honey Solutions in Texas and Groeb Farms Inc. in Michigan, got caught in the "Honeygate" sting by the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement and admitted they facilitated the import of millions of dollars worth of illegal honey that was mislabeled.

The sting focused on companies who avoided anti-dumping duties of about 200% on Chinese honey by first shipping the Chinese honey to middlemen in other countries, such as Vietnam and Indonesia, to disguise its origin. This is called "transshipping."

The tariffs were imposed after authorities determined Chinese honey was being sold at less than fair market value, which damaged the American honey industry and put some honey producers out of business.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#184791 Feb 2, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>What about the 4th and 5th things, namely proving that I wrote accessing ppt files of individuals is illegal (I just opined it was, though it IS illegal if alive) and explanation why you never differentiated between ppt access of living and dead individuals. Interesting. BTW, CON servative serf, I still think it's not right to access deceased ppt holders' files unless there is a good reason. Remember, I opined "not right" , not legal or illegal. Fifth thing : YOU said yesterday or the day before that you would bring forth proof of what you ridiculously advanced. Waiting. Or will you once more use "whine", proving that you have nothing and cannot admit, here and now, you were wrong. I've done that, here, even. No big deal. But you're too petty and immature to do that, now are you?
Still whining? Trying to prove that your level of pathetic knows no bottom?
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184792 Feb 2, 2014
Florida was the hardest hit state from the Chinese Drywall scandal. They had whole neighborhoods that had to be gutted. I had an acquaintance that was buying $300-500K houses for less than half price and then gutting the interiors for $40-70K and then selling them for a good profit.
It is almost impossible to sue the Chinese so they go after the importers who are usually victims themselves.

Chinese drywall
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Chinese drywall" refers to an environmental health issue involving defective drywall manufactured in China and imported to the United States starting in 2001. Laboratory tests of samples for volatile chemicals have identified emissions of the sulfurous gases carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide. These emissions, which have the odor of rotten eggs, worsen as temperature and humidity rise and cause copper surfaces to turn black and powdery, a chemical process indicative of reaction with hydrogen sulfide. Copper pipes, wiring, and air conditioner coils are affected, as well as silver jewelry. Homeowners have reported a variety of symptoms, including respiratory problems such as asthma attacks, chronic coughing and difficulty breathing, as well as chronic headaches and sinus issues.[1][2][3]
The copper coils on this air conditioner unit are blackened and corroded.

The case name of the major lawsuit is MDL 2047, In re: Chinese-manufactured Drywall Products Liability Litigation, a suit in New Orleans.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#184793 Feb 2, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! If you want a dual-citizenship status added to the Constitution, it must be placed there with an amendment.
The Bancroft Treaties covered Wilson and Eisenhower.
Since Eisenhower was born a dual US-GERMAN citizen at birth due to old German laws that made the GRANDchildren of its citizens German citizens, the Bancroft treaty could not have covered him. And, BTW, it did not cover Wilson either. He really was a dual citizen of the USA and Britain at the time of this birth.

You cannot read into the US Constitution something that it does not say. And it does not say that two US citizen parents are required to be president. In fact, there is not a word in the US Constitution that says either that the US-born children of foreigners or that US-born dual citizens are not eligible to become president. Not a word.

Under strict construction (remember that?) you cannot interpret the Constitution as saying something unless it actually does says it-----and it does NOT say that two citizen parents are required or that a dual citizen is barred from becoming president. It does not say either of those things.

Under libertarian principles neither a law nor the Constitution can take away a right or a privilege unless the Constitution specifically allows that thing to be taken away. And, the Constitution does not specifically take away the right or privilege of the US-born children of foreigners to become president, and it does not take away the right or privilege of the US-born dual citizens either. It does not take away either of those things. It does not SAY any such thing.

And yet slimy Dale wants gullible people to ignore good conservative legal principles such as strict construction and good conservative moral principles such as libertarianism. Why? Why Slimy Dale? Why?

The Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." And there is nothing in either the Constitution or in ANY of the writings of the men who were in the Constitutional Convention, or such other American leaders at the time as John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. There NOTHING in any of their writings that says that the US-born children of foreigners are not as eligible as the US-born children of US citizens. Nothing. But slimy Dale would like to throw out that principle too.

Why Slimy Dale? Why?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184794 Feb 2, 2014
Slick Willie wrote:
Florida was the hardest hit state from the Chinese Drywall scandal. They had whole neighborhoods that had to be gutted. I had an acquaintance that was buying $300-500K houses for less than half price and then gutting the interiors for $40-70K and then selling them for a good profit.
It is almost impossible to sue the Chinese so they go after the importers who are usually victims themselves.
Chinese drywall
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Chinese drywall" refers to an environmental health issue involving defective drywall manufactured in China and imported to the United States starting in 2001. Laboratory tests of samples for volatile chemicals have identified emissions of the sulfurous gases carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide. These emissions, which have the odor of rotten eggs, worsen as temperature and humidity rise and cause copper surfaces to turn black and powdery, a chemical process indicative of reaction with hydrogen sulfide. Copper pipes, wiring, and air conditioner coils are affected, as well as silver jewelry. Homeowners have reported a variety of symptoms, including respiratory problems such as asthma attacks, chronic coughing and difficulty breathing, as well as chronic headaches and sinus issues.[1][2][3]
The copper coils on this air conditioner unit are blackened and corroded.
The case name of the major lawsuit is MDL 2047, In re: Chinese-manufactured Drywall Products Liability Litigation, a suit in New Orleans.
Whether it be dry wall, dry goods, toys, electronics, and MOST important, food, China is less than half guilty if it ships defective goods or poisoned foods. It takes two to tango. Oh , our multinationals plead "no knowledge" of tainted products or slave labour shops, how convenient, when scandals like dry wall are discovered or slave labour camps are exposed. So, the Chinese take advantage of our "courageous" 1% who harm the nation in every conceivable way, namely by exporting jobs to China and other parts of Asia and creating unemployment at home, then step back and allow the Chinese and others to break every law in the book concerning labour and quality of output, only to plead ignorance when the house of cards collapses. "Oh, we had no idea that this plant housed 1,000 workers who all died when the building collapsed. We had no idea there were so many workers, and that the building was defective even though state inspectors had pointed it out" We had no idea the shellfish were fed poultry droppings, that the fish farms were all polluted, that mushrooms were fertilized in human waste, we had no idea there were excessive amounts of lead in toys that children put in their mouths". And so it goes. Yes, the Chinese do screw us whenever they can, but thanks to our stalwart entrepreneurs who let them, you, I, we all pay.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184795 Feb 2, 2014
Slick Willie wrote:
Republic of Madawaska
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Republic of Madawaska
Unrecognized state
Flag Madawaska Co., New Brunswick, Canada
Municipalities of Madawaska County
Capital Fort Kent, Maine
Languages English, French
Government Republic
Leader John Baker
History
- Independence declared August 10, 1827
- Webster-Ashburton Treaty saw the republic divided between New Brunswick and Maine August 9, 1842
The Republic of Madawaska (French: République du Madawaska) was a small, unrecognized state in the northwest corner of Madawaska County, New Brunswick (also known as the "New Brunswick Panhandle") and adjacent areas of Aroostook County in the US State of Maine and of Quebec. The word "Madawaska" comes from the Mi'kmaq words madawas (porcupine) and kak (place). Thus, the Madawaska is "the country of the porcupine".[1] The Madawaska River which flows into the Saint John River at Edmundston, New Brunswick and Madawaska, Maine flows through the region.
I know that area fairly well. Mostly French-speaking and not very rich, to say the least. But very hospitable, friendly and helpful people.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#184796 Feb 2, 2014
"Political and social chaos and a lack of international protections have put several species of rosewood trees in Madagascar in danger of becoming extinct from illegal logging."

National Geographic
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184798 Feb 2, 2014
loose cannon wrote:
"Political and social chaos and a lack of international protections have put several species of rosewood trees in Madagascar in danger of becoming extinct from illegal logging."
National Geographic
I was aware of that but Gibson thought their rosewood was coming from India!
From Wiki,
Another classic rosewood is that yielded by Dalbergia latifolia known as (East) Indian Rosewood or sonokeling. It can be found in tropical America, Southeast Asia, and Madagascar
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184799 Feb 2, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Whether it be dry wall, dry goods, toys, electronics, and MOST important, food, China is less than half guilty if it ships defective goods or poisoned foods. It takes two to tango. Oh , our multinationals plead "no knowledge" of tainted products or slave labour shops, how convenient, when scandals like dry wall are discovered or slave labour camps are exposed. So, the Chinese take advantage of our "courageous" 1% who harm the nation in every conceivable way, namely by exporting jobs to China and other parts of Asia and creating unemployment at home, then step back and allow the Chinese and others to break every law in the book concerning labour and quality of output, only to plead ignorance when the house of cards collapses. "Oh, we had no idea that this plant housed 1,000 workers who all died when the building collapsed. We had no idea there were so many workers, and that the building was defective even though state inspectors had pointed it out" We had no idea the shellfish were fed poultry droppings, that the fish farms were all polluted, that mushrooms were fertilized in human waste, we had no idea there were excessive amounts of lead in toys that children put in their mouths". And so it goes. Yes, the Chinese do screw us whenever they can, but thanks to our stalwart entrepreneurs who let them, you, I, we all pay.
So, if you order something from Amazon and you get a package full of marijuana, will you be upset if they arrest and you are tried and convicted? If you order something through a broker and you get something else, are you at fault! In Obama's DoJ, if you are a Conservative, the answer is YES!!!
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184800 Feb 2, 2014
loose cannon wrote:
"Political and social chaos and a lack of international protections have put several species of rosewood trees in Madagascar in danger of becoming extinct from illegal logging."
National Geographic
Also, if the Fed returned the rosewood to Gibson, why? Was it because it was not from Madagascar?

At the time, Breitbart News suggested that the federal government targeted Gibson because of the conservative ideological stance it had supported. But according to the Gibson Guitar website, the tonewood was returned and made into the Government Series II Les Paul guitars:

Great Gibson electric guitars have long been a means of fighting the establishment, so when the powers that be confiscated stocks of tonewoods from the Gibson factory in Nashville—only to return them once there was a resolution and the investigation ended—it was an event worth celebrating. Introducing the Government Series II Les Paul, a striking new guitar from Gibson USA for 2014 that suitably marks this infamous time in Gibson’s history.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/0...
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184801 Feb 2, 2014
This is from the loony-lefty Mother Jones Idiotards. I dare say that anyone who had not donated money to Obama would have even been looked at!

The company also acknowledged its violations. Sort of. In a statement, CEO Henry Juszkiewicz said that the company "felt compelled to settle as the costs of proving our case at trial would have cost millions of dollars and taken a very long time to resolve." The agreement allows Gibson to keep the rosewood and ebony from India that was taken in the second raid and continue importing from India. Juszkiewicz also didn't drop his claims that his company was "inappropriately targeted" in the raids and that the matter "could have been addressed with a simple contact" from a "caring human being representing the government." Gibson published all the settlement documents on on its website.
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/0...
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#184802 Feb 2, 2014
Obama's Membership in Muslim Brotherhood - Verified - TREASON
Slick Willie

Mcdonough, GA

#184803 Feb 2, 2014
This is for Mr. Finch. This is from the official WHITE HOUSE site which states that the GDP for 2013 is just 2.7% which is mediocre. Now, where did YOU get your facts from?!?

Advance Estimate of GDP for the Fourth Quarter of 2013

Economic growth was solid in the fourth quarter, a testament to the resilience of American businesses and families. The private sector’s strong performance in the fourth quarter caps off its fastest year of growth since 2003. And over the four quarters of 2013, real GDP grew 2.7 percent, its strongest rate in three years. Nevertheless, the unemployment rate is still unacceptably high, and too many Americans are still looking for a job and fighting to make ends meet. In his State of the Union address on Tuesday night, President Obama outlined his plans to build on the progress made to date and ensure 2014 is a year of action, with steps to increase growth, create new jobs, and expand economic opportunity.

FIVE KEY POINTS IN TODAY’S REPORT FROM THE BUREAU OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/01/30/adv...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#184804 Feb 2, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
Obama's Membership in Muslim Brotherhood - Verified - TREASON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FlQFEv6WulwXX
Tacky's membership in Mensa? Denied!

Tacky's promotion from 2nd Grade? Denied (4 times)
Grand Birther

Louisville, KY

#184805 Feb 2, 2014
angel wrote:
<quoted text>Well
You believe in fairy tales, huh???
Obama has proven nothing except that he had no U.S. father or legitimate birth certificate!

The child of 2 U.S. citizen parents born in a United States protectorate or controlled territory, who came back and lived in this country for the required 14 years of required residency is eligible to be the U.S. President.
See Senate Resolution 511 passed for John McCain.

Some people also believe that a person born in that United States protectorate or controlled territory, who is actually a citizen of that particular country, who came back and lived in this country for the required 14 years of required residency is eligible to be the U.S. President.

I am inclined not to agree with that 2nd opinion, as I am convinced that the Founding Fathers intended for the Presidential eligibility clause to exclude anyone not physically born in the U.S or a protectorate or controlled territory, who did not have the required 2 U.S. citizen parents, from becoming the Commander-In-Chief of the United States Military and President of the United States.
The Presidential eligibility clause was specifically created to prevent anyone with dual allegiance period, and especially at birth, from becoming the Commander-In-Chief of the United States Military and President of the United States.

The Constitution requires Obama to be a natural born citizen, and when the Founding Fathers used the term, they knew and understood it to mean just what Vattel said it meant, the child born on U.S. soil of U.S. citizens.

They had no need to define it in the Constitution, because as the writers they already knew what it meant.

It is up to Obama to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible, and since the questions concerning his Constitutional eligibility remain unanswered, Obama has not met that Constitutional burden.

Obama knows that he is not a Natural born citizen, that is why he calls himself a Native born citizen.

Obama knows that he is a dual citizen, that is why he tells you that his citizenship followed that of his Fathers, making him a dual U.S./British Kenyan citizen.

Obama refuses to release the best proof of his Hawaiian birth that he allegedly has to offer in the form of his original long form birth certificate.
This gives rise to the belief and possibility that the document in fact does not even really exist.
Why would Obama at the least not want to end the speculation concerning this?
So at this time, even his alleged FANTASY Hawaiian birth remains unproven and Obama refuses to end the controversy.

You think Obama is a Natural born citizen?
You gotta have faith, because you don't have the proof.

You think Obama was born in Hawaii?
You gotta have faith, because you don't have the proof.

You think Obama's released short form birth certificate is authentic?
You gotta have faith, because you don't have the proof.

Obama is truly a false god, because just like with God, you gotta have faith, because you don't have the proof, huh?

Unfortunately SHEEPLE don't deal in facts.

Native born citizen is not mentioned in the Constitution.
The term Natural born citizen appears in the Constitution, which the Founding Fathers intended for all future Presidents after the citizens at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution were gone, would be the offspring of a U.S. citizen Father born on U.S. soil.

Native born citizenship only requires Jus soli, born on the soil, while Natural born citizenship requires Jus soli and Jus sanguinis, born on the soil, or in U.S. controlled territory, and blood relationship to at a minimum a U.S. citizen Father.

This is precisely why John McCain was found to be eligible as a Natural born citizen despite his birth in Panama, and precisely why Obama cannot be a Natural born citizen, even if he could prove his alleged Hawaiian birth as a fact.

Obama had no U.S. citizen Father.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#184806 Feb 2, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
You believe in fairy tales, huh???
.....
Obama had no U.S. citizen Father.
So?

"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."---William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed.(1829)

“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.”— Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

You cannot read into the US Constitution something that it does not say. And it does not say that two US citizen parents are required to be president. In fact, there is not a word in the US Constitution that says either that the US-born children of foreigners or that US-born dual citizens are not eligible to become president. Not a word.

Under strict construction (remember that?) you cannot interpret the Constitution as saying something unless it actually does says it-----and it does NOT say that two citizen parents are required or that a dual citizen is barred from becoming president. It does not say either of those things.

Under libertarian principles neither a law nor the Constitution can take away a right or a privilege unless the Constitution specifically allows that thing to be taken away. And, the Constitution does not specifically take away the right or privilege of the US-born children of foreigners to become president, and it does not take away the right or privilege of the US-born dual citizens either. It does not take away either of those things. It does not SAY any such thing.

And yet you want gullible people to ignore good conservative legal principles such as strict construction and good conservative moral principles such as libertarianism. Why?

The Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." And there is nothing in either the Constitution or in ANY of the writings of the men who were in the Constitutional Convention, or such other American leaders at the time as John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. There NOTHING in any of their writings that says that the US-born children of foreigners are not as eligible as the US-born children of US citizens. Nothing. And yet you would like to throw out that principle too---why?
JBH

Delta, Canada

#184807 Feb 2, 2014
ByREBECCA KAPLANFACE THE NATIONFebruary 2, 2014, 1:01 PM
W.H. chief of staff defends policy on Syria, Iran, Keystone pipeline

----

Obama's policies are dysfunctional.
How could anymore still defend Obama's unethical dilemma?
What are Obama expecting to much in a complex new world when cold war is over, as whether issues are reflecting the current forward time?

Look at the current Iraq first as all those violences are still going on for too long.

How would it be logical to hoist Muslim rebels that Obama SUPPORTS to make the civil war go on without knowing who started all and is the real evil by tailgating Assad instead , while asking for Chemical weapons, because the core issue is basically the civil war?
By having to deliver no support of rebels, that could only outcome the balance stand first to deal with chemical weapons dismantling and that is the step-to-step process.

Iran is capable of firing long range rockets into space and that means its military is CAPABLE TO DEFEND itself.
When US keeps on linking to Israel on the heavy weight measure position backing, which poses not any stability for many others in the ME region, this pushing on Iran does not seem viable.

Sochi Olympics are the responsibility of host nation Russia to deal with all security and protection of pertinent people while free market consumer world looks for International Olympic sports games entertainment , with no concern to other issue, such as gay matter that Obama injected such subject, for being improper.

On Keystone Project, it probably becomes difficult if the pipeline will go through the west BC, that the pipeline is too long that BC people might not approve it, as what as is, that depends on.
drinK the hivE

New York, NY

#184808 Feb 2, 2014
I Bet The Communist' Are Behind It...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/S1_Mf6QTxbI...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184809 Feb 2, 2014
Slick Willie wrote:
<quoted text>
So, if you order something from Amazon and you get a package full of marijuana, will you be upset if they arrest and you are tried and convicted? If you order something through a broker and you get something else, are you at fault! In Obama's DoJ, if you are a Conservative, the answer is YES!!!
Your response makes no sense. I don't control what Amazon sends me, but the multinationals who let their sub-contractors do the workl for them in China have that responsibility. They can't just say "I didn't know when the sh*t hits the fan".

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