BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 242994 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#185034 Feb 8, 2014
Jacques,
Cholera and many other much lesser diseases will bring the biggest, burlyist, gun-totin' jackass to his knees.
loose
Grand Birther

Jasper, IN

#185035 Feb 8, 2014
Our puppet dictator is not destroying our republic all by his lonesome. He is executing the game plan designed by his puppeteers, and promoted and protected by the puppeteer-controlled media, but isn’t there more to this saga, than meets the eye?
Boehner and McConnell
Obama’s Praetorian Guards!
By A.J. Cameron Full Story
Our puppet dictator is not destroying our republic all by his lonesome. He is executing the game plan designed by his puppeteers, and promoted and protected by the puppeteer-controlled media, but isn’t there more to this saga, than meets the eye? Are you familiar with the term,‘Praetorian Guard’?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#185037 Feb 8, 2014
slick Willie wrote:
Many of you might not know but Irina Rodnina (the lady who lit the Olympic flame in Sochi last night) had earlier tweeted a photo of the Obamas ...
I'm not making this up REF: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth...
I am shocked and outraged, outraged I say, at such inappropriate behavior against possibly the greatest presidential couple these socialist United States have ever seen!
I hereby and forever will boycott purchasing any bananas grown and sold from the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics!
It is my hope you will support me.
Big YAWN

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#185038 Feb 8, 2014
Grand Birther wrote:
Our puppet dictator is not destroying our republic all by his lonesome. He is executing the game plan designed by his puppeteers, and promoted and protected by the puppeteer-controlled media, but isn’t there more to this saga, than meets the eye?
Boehner and McConnell
Obama’s Praetorian Guards!
By A.J. Cameron Full Story
Our puppet dictator is not destroying our republic all by his lonesome. He is executing the game plan designed by his puppeteers, and promoted and protected by the puppeteer-controlled media, but isn’t there more to this saga, than meets the eye? Are you familiar with the term,‘Praetorian Guard’?
Who are you talking about? New World Order/ Illuminati / Freemasonry / Bilderberg . If you believe that. What ever you are takeing stop it now!!!! It warping your mind

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185040 Feb 8, 2014
Where has Mr. Finch gone. He claimed that the U.S. GDP growth rate for 2013 was 5.0% but it was only 2.7%(as reported by the White House).
But when you correct it for population growth (0.7%) it is down to ... 2.0% and when you correct it for inflation (1.8%) it is NET GDP GROWTH RATE down to just ....0.2% which is very anemic!!!
Yep, five years after Obama entered the White House our economy is still in the Doldrums and the Libtards are clueless as to why it is except they srill blame ...... Bush!!!.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185041 Feb 8, 2014
Oh, in the late 2000s our population had been growing at about 1% each year but it has dropped to just 0.7%. I wonder why?
And when you consider that abortion rates are at a 30 year low, that means something.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#185042 Feb 8, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, in the late 2000s our population had been growing at about 1% each year but it has dropped to just 0.7%. I wonder why?
And when you consider that abortion rates are at a 30 year low, that means something.
We don't need world population growth at this point. 6000 BC God said. "Increase and multiply". In 2000 he said, "Enough already!"
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185043 Feb 8, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you insane? All foreigners inhabiting Canada, including Americans, come solely under Canadian jurisdiction. What treaties are you gibberishing about? The only way an American living in Canada could avoid Canadian jurisdiction would be for him/her to be a diplomat, covered by the Vienna Convention (Treaty). That is neither a U.S. nor Canadian treaty.
LMAO!!! Only through treaties. Why, because all persons visiting your beautiful country are citizens of another country and that country has something to say about their treatment while they are in your country.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185044 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Dufus, but naturalization does not 'strip' anyone's citizenship. No exception. Renunciation is between the alien and the foreign government, which may not accept it. Thus the naturalized citizen can be a dual citizen.
LMAO!!! Looks like we are stuck on the Dual-Citizenship status of Obama and as we all know a NBC has only one allegiance.
Art 2, Sect. I, para. 5, does not state a Naturalized citizen, nor does it state a Dual-citizen, both have questionable allegiance, this is why they are not authorized to be POTUS.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185045 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>The allegiance of a person born on US soil is to the US, regardless of foreign citizenship law, which has no force or effect within the US. What part of no force or effect cannot Dale comprehend?
LMAO!!! At the moment of birth Obama's citizenship and allegiance was to his father's country and the US government can't strip that away, unless requested by him. This brings us back to the same old thing, a dual-citizenship is no better than a naturalized citizenship, neither are NBCs
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185046 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry but foreign citizenship law does not bind the person born in the US. The US is governed by US law as it is a sovereign nation.
LMAO!!!“Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship.”(Ark v. US)

Looks like we are back to the Dual-Citizenship, with that said, we can go back to who will be POTUS, only a NBC and as we all know a NBC does not have any foreign influence/allegiance.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185047 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Dale does not comprehend that no one is subject to Play Law.
LMAO!!! I love it when you post "Play Law" this means you are out of steam!!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185048 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Ted Cruz was born a Canadian in Canada and under Canadian jurisdiction. But under US statute he acquired US citizenship. No Dufus, citizenship and jurisdiction are not the same.
LMAOI!!! Cruz has a long row to hoe , not only was he born in Canada, he was also born a citizen of Cuba. Cruz for POTUS, I don't think so, he is only a statutory citizen, not a NBC.
I like the way you arguing against yourself, citizenship in a country automatically burdens you with the allegiance thingy. Who was that guy that said, citizenship and allegiance are inseparable?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#185050 Feb 8, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Looks like we are stuck on the Dual-Citizenship status of Obama and as we all know a NBC has only one allegiance.
Art 2, Sect. I, para. 5, does not state a Naturalized citizen, nor does it state a Dual-citizen, both have questionable allegiance, this is why they are not authorized to be POTUS.
Nor does it state "one play law allegiance"

Moron.

In fact, it does not state "allegiance" at all.

It states "natural born citizen".

And "natural born" meant, born on the soil.

Sorry, Dufus.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Dufus, but naturalization does not 'strip' anyone's citizenship. No exception. Renunciation is between the alien and the foreign government, which may not accept it. Thus the naturalized citizen can be a dual citizen.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185051 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It is Dufus Dale's problem that a treaty cannot create extra-constitutional powers. If aliens are not "under the jurisdiction of the Constitution" as Dufus says, then no treaty could create such extra-constitutional power wherein the US would have jurisdiction, as any treaty is subservient to the supreme law of the constitution.
Play law breaks down again and again. It doesn't work.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! All though you post is very juvenile, for a treaty to grant an alien the privileges of the US Constitution would grant him citizenship, without the process of naturalization.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185052 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Nor does it state "one play law allegiance"
Moron.
In fact, it does not state "allegiance" at all.
It states "natural born citizen".
And "natural born" meant, born on the soil.
Sorry, Dufus.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! You lose again!!!

......to be citizens are "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.

With Obama being a dual-citizen, guess this puts a crimp in your post, but according to the above he isn't even a citizen.

See you are over a barrel, the frames of the 14th call him an alien, Ark v. US made him a dual-citizen and the Bancroft Treaties are unenforceable.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#185053 Feb 8, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAOI!!! Cruz has a long row to hoe , not only was he born in Canada, he was also born a citizen of Cuba. Cruz for POTUS, I don't think so, he is only a statutory citizen, not a NBC.
I like the way you arguing against yourself, citizenship in a country automatically burdens you with the allegiance thingy. Who was that guy that said, citizenship and allegiance are inseparable?
Huh? Where did I say he was NBC? Where did I say NBC had anything to do with your bogus Play Law?

Who was that founder who said citizenship and allegiance are equivalent? Dufus Dale.
Dufus Dale forgets about natural allegiance per common law from which natural born citizenship stems in the United States. As James Madison stated, "but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States."

Got a clue what "it is what applies in the United States" means?

BTW, MORON, being born in Hawaii, "burdens you with the allegiance thingy" in the US only per US allegiance. While in the US, a person born in the US is not "burdened" by any putative foreign allegiance, because foreign law has no force or effect in the United States. Got a clue what "no force or effect" means?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Ted Cruz was born a Canadian in Canada and under Canadian jurisdiction. But under US statute he acquired US citizenship. No Dufus, citizenship and jurisdiction are not the same.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185054 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Nor does it state "one play law allegiance"
Moron.
In fact, it does not state "allegiance" at all.
It states "natural born citizen".
And "natural born" meant, born on the soil.
Sorry, Dufus.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! You will deny it, but even you have stated that a NBC has only one allegiance!!! Go and deny it, then I will know what you are, like I didn't know! Hahahaha!!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#185056 Feb 8, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! All though you post is very juvenile, for a treaty to grant an alien the privileges of the US Constitution would grant him citizenship, without the process of naturalization.
Why don't you learn how to write a sentence?

The simple fact is that if the US government does not have the authority under the constitution to have jurisdiction over aliens in the US, then a treaty cannot create such power because treaties are subservient to the Constitution and cannot create extra-Constitutional powers.

You are simply FOS on so many levels it stinks to high heaven.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It is Dufus Dale's problem that a treaty cannot create extra-constitutional powers. If aliens are not "under the jurisdiction of the Constitution" as Dufus says, then no treaty could create such extra-constitutional power wherein the US would have jurisdiction, as any treaty is subservient to the supreme law of the constitution.
Play law breaks down again and again. It doesn't work.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#185057 Feb 8, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? Where did I say he was NBC? Where did I say NBC had anything to do with your bogus Play Law?
Who was that founder who said citizenship and allegiance are equivalent? Dufus Dale.
Dufus Dale forgets about natural allegiance per common law from which natural born citizenship stems in the United States. As James Madison stated, "but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States."
Got a clue what "it is what applies in the United States" means?
BTW, MORON, being born in Hawaii, "burdens you with the allegiance thingy" in the US only per US allegiance. While in the US, a person born in the US is not "burdened" by any putative foreign allegiance, because foreign law has no force or effect in the United States. Got a clue what "no force or effect" means?
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! You haven't a clue what happen in 1866, do you? You really need a good brain douche!!

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