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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184698 Jan 30, 2014
pollo wrote:
<quoted text>
too much choke the chicken jakkass
nebkas ugly child and pollo. How many monikers is that now, Rogue? How childish, puerile.

Grow up maybe?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#184699 Jan 31, 2014
All rise! The Court is in session.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184700 Jan 31, 2014
Constitution, laws, and birthers aside, the following opinion by David Jones, a former U.S. diplomat who served in Ottawa, should be required reading. I don't often post unsolicited cut-and-paste, and yes, this is one of them, but I believe it's well worth reading :
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Op-Ed: It’s not personal, says Citizen Ted Cruz
By David Jones, Ottawa Citizen January 30, 2014
“No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of President …”
— Constitution of the United States
Sen. Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz (R-Texas) has a problem. He was born in Canada on Dec. 22, 1970.
Cruz is hardly the first presidential candidate to face questions regarding his citizenship. The U.S. constitution is draconian in this regard; it does not only say one must be a United States citizen to be president, but a “natural born” citizen. That is, she or he cannot be a naturalized citizen, but must be a citizen at birth.
Over the decades, this qualification has created considerable confusion. Some has been honest ignorance; other “confusion” has been malicious politics.
The most obvious way to be a U.S. citizen is to be born in the United States or one of its territories. It was hardly ever a question in the initial politics of the Republic, although Chester Arthur (who became president in 1881 after the assassination of president James Garfield) was alleged — falsely in the judgment of most historians — to have been born in Canada.
But as our society became more mobile, citizens with presidential dreams began to be born in less traditional locations.
George Romney, one time governor of Michigan and aspirant for the Republican presidential nomination, was born in Mexico.(His son Mitt Romney, Republican presidential candidate in 2102, was born in prosaic Michigan.)
John McCain, Republican presidential candidate in 2008, was born in the Panama Canal Zone (a U.S. possession when he was born).
And most famously, President Barack Obama, whose birthplace and consequent citizenship have been intensely disputed.“Birthers” have claimed Obama was born in Kenya (his father was never a U.S. citizen), despite a variety of records demonstrating his birth in Hawaii.
But essentially, where Romney, McCain, and Obama were born is irrelevant. They were U.S. citizens at birth because their mothers were U.S. citizens qualified to convey citizenship. For Romney and McCain, both their parents were U.S. citizens when they were born. For Obama, his father could have been Darth Vader and he born on the dark side of the moon — he would still be a U.S. citizen because his mother was a U.S. citizen. Period.
Nevertheless, the intensity with which this issue has been pursued illustrates an important U.S. sociopolitical reality. We care almost ideologically about citizenship; we are suspicious about dual citizenships, believing such individuals implicitly have divided loyalties. Having thrown off British rule in a bloody revolution, we were not willing even to conceive that outsiders would have comparable commitment. Thus we were willing to forgo the presidential potential of Alexander Hamilton (born on Nevis in the West Indies), and in subsequent generations distinguished naturalized citizens such as Henry Kissinger (Secretary of State), Arnold Schwarzenegger (California governor), and Vancouver-born Jennifer Granholm (the former governor of Michigan).
Thus there is no conceivable way in which a Michael Ignatieff equivalent could have been accepted as a legitimate contender for the U.S. presidency. Ignatieff was a true citizen of the world. Sufficient to say the “just visiting” label pasted on him by Tory advertising was a serious liability — which he verified by leaving immediately after defeat for a university position in the United States.

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184701 Jan 31, 2014
...2

Likewise, the hubbub over French citizenship held by Liberal leader Stéphane Dion and by Gov.-Gen. Michaëlle Jean seemed to baffle both of them, before Jean reluctantly divested herself of the extra citizenship (Dion did not).

The concept of a dual-nationality U.S. president, however, is beyond comprehension.

Hence, to Sen. Cruz. His birth in Canada makes him a Canadian citizen. As his mother was a U.S. citizen (his father was not in 1970), he is a U.S. citizen. We can assume, since his family returned to Texas in 1974 — about as far from Canada as possible — Cruz’s Canadian citizenship rested lightly on him, if he thought of it at all. His biography shows no connection to Canada; thus his interest would be at most, peripheral.

But were he to travel to Canada, for example, for an international conference, technically he would require a Canadian passport — as well as a U.S. passport to re-enter the United States. Normally citizens enter a country where they are citizens on the documentation of that country.

So Cruz will divest himself of Canadian citizenship, and given his highly conservative sociopolitical positions, some Canadians say the equivalent of “good riddance.”

But it’s not personal; it’s just political.

David Jones, co-author of Uneasy Neighbo(u)rs: Canada, the USA and the Dynamics of State, Industry and Culture, is a former U.S. diplomat who served in Ottawa.

© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#184702 Jan 31, 2014
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe Andrew Brietbart?
Similiarities between Adolf Hitler & Barack Hussein Obama
• Both Hitler and Obama held rallies in outdoor stadiums to excite and inflame the people's passions. Frequently women would faint or break into tears.
• Both Hitler and Obama wrote ghost-written autobiographies prior to the start of theri run for political office. Hitler wrote Mein Kampf (My Struggle), and Obama wrote Dreams Of My Father. Both men then wrote a second book talking about their goals
for German and America. Hitler wrote A New World Order, and Obama wrote The Audacity of Hope.
• Both Hitler and Obama originally had last names that were changed later in life. Hitler used to be Schickelbruber, and Obama's last name was Soetoro.
• Both Hitler and Obama hid their real identies. Hiter had a Jewish ancestry, and Obama
a Muslim one. But unlike Hitler, Obama flaunted his Muslim roots in his start as a politician in order to defuse the inevitable firestorm. His ploy of "hiding in plain sight" worked very well.
• Both Hitler and Obama's supporters followed them blindly, and without question
• Both Hitler and Obama used political power and coercion to conceal and hide their birth certificates from coming to public view. Hitler made his disappear, and Obama is unwilling and unable to produce his long-form birth certificate.
• Both Hitler and Obama advocate using young people as a driving force to create an "army" of youth dedicated to their Ideals. Hitler had his Hitler Youth, and Obama his
Obama Youth Brigade.
• Both Hitler and Obama were known for their tremendous oratorical skills
• Both Hitler and Obama received Messianic comparisons, and both men had songs of adoration written about them and for them.
• Like Hitler, Obama rules in direct disregard to the will and wishes of the people.
• Like Hitler, Obama has an obvious distaste for the Jews, and sides with the Muslims every chance he gets.
• Both Hitler and Obama were able to mezmerize the people even when it was obvious that what they were saying was not true.
• Both Hitler and Obama used domestic terrorists to launch their careers. Hitler had his Brown Shirts from his beer hall days, and Obama had people like Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Rashid Khalidi.
• Like Hitler, Obama advocates using murder as a means of population control.
You are a poor exuse for a human being
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#184703 Jan 31, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Libtards do not know the difference between a storm "watch" and a "warning". Case in point was Hurricane Sandy. When the hurricane WARNING was issued. Gov. Christie of New Jersey ordered an evacuation of the coastal areas of his state. 24 hours later the city of New York issued an evacuation but did not send police officers out to enforce the evacuation. As a result, more people died in Long Island, New York than died in the whole state of New Jersey.
48 hours ago they issued a winter storm WARNING for all most all of Georgia. My daughter lives 20 SE of Atlanta and Henry Country ordered all schools closed for Tuesday but Fulton County (Atlanta) did not. And now we all know what happened in Atlanta. The difference between Henry and Fulton Counties is that Fulton is more LIBERAL than Henry!
Oh, NOAA advised New Orleans to start evacuations THREE days before Hurricane Katrina hit but they waited until just 24 hours before the storm hit because the Democrat mayor did not want to scare the tourists!!! what idiots Libtards are. Oh, is "idiots and Libtads" a double negative?
Tommy fails to understand that an Long Island is just that....an island, which has low ground level and surrounded by water. On the other hand, New Jersey is part of a continent containing a coast line. Any storm attacking both would do much more damage to an unprotected island thaas compared to an entire state.

Once again Tommy has cherry-picked his data to promote his hate-filled agenda.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#184704 Jan 31, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
DJIA analysis by Rogue Scholar :
Thursday, DJIA up. not Obama's doing
Friday, DJIA down, Obama's fault
Monday, DJIA down, Obama's fault
Tuesday DJIA up, not Obama's doing
Wednesday, DJIA down, Obama's fault
Today, DJIA up, not Obama's doing.
Sorry, day to day fluctuation are not Obama's or Bernanke's fault. But as EVERYONE has predicted, as soon as Bernanke slowed up on QE, the market will drop. Now, what do you think would happen if Bernanke had stopped all Quantitative Easing at the end of last year?
Our stock market has been propped up artificially but Bernanke's QE and like any bubble, it will pop. So it may be a slow pop as Bernanke tries to moderate the tapering off of QE, but you can expect the market to drop another 10% this year.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#184705 Jan 31, 2014
Ya know La Jacqueau, that Libtards think they can pick winners and losers and the economy will improve whereas Conservatives believe that if we just overall taxes and cut the red tape, many more businesses will be effected positively.
A rising tide lifts all ships.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#184706 Jan 31, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
nebkas ugly child and pollo. How many monikers is that now, Rogue? How childish, puerile.
Grow up maybe?
Sorry, I was traveling most of yesterday. I drove instead of flying as there was low level icing and my plane is not equipped with de/anti-icing. I will be spending the weekend with my daughter and grandson.
He has a big basketball game tomorrow. Last year when he was in Junior High he was the only white kid on the team but this year there are now two of them. OMG, I wonder what the black kids are thinking?
The school is about 50/50 Black/White but few white kids play basketball and my g-son is to thin to play football. He does soccer and baseball too!
Oh, he was pretty sick yesterday and doing better today. I hope he is well enough to play as I would hate to have made the trip just to sit in a house.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#184707 Jan 31, 2014
I think La Jacqueau is getting paranoid as he seems to think everyone else is me.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184708 Jan 31, 2014
WHAT A PRESIDENT. Anyone who has visited Truman's Key West White House will bow to his greatness, said greatness woven in modesty.
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Harry & Bess

(This seems unreal in today's "I'm entitled" world)

Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many, or more important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 32 Presidents preceding him.
However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he leftthe White House.
The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence Missouri .
His wife had inherited the house from her mother and father and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.
When he retired from office in 1952 his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year.
Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year.
After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There was no Secret Service following them.

When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."

Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing,
"I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason
for any award, Congressional or otherwise."

As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.
Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth.

Today, too many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale
(ie. Illinois ).

Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to
tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!"

We should have cloned him!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184709 Jan 31, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, day to day fluctuation are not Obama's or Bernanke's fault. But as EVERYONE has predicted, as soon as Bernanke slowed up on QE, the market will drop. Now, what do you think would happen if Bernanke had stopped all Quantitative Easing at the end of last year?
Our stock market has been propped up artificially but Bernanke's QE and like any bubble, it will pop. So it may be a slow pop as Bernanke tries to moderate the tapering off of QE, but you can expect the market to drop another 10% this year.
1. Still not too good on sarcasm and mockery, are you? You forget how not too long go you were blaming Obama for every dip in the DJIA and crediting the repub congress when it rose. Remember the dip following November 6 , 2012? Remind us who you blamed THAT one on. And this, after telling you almost daily that the president had ZILCH to do with DJIA fluctuations, except of course long term. And you lecture ME with "Sorry, day to day fluctuation are not Obama's or Bernanke's fault" . WOW.

2. There is no bubble. The rich 1%, your buddies, have built a cushion the last 6 months, have built the DJIA by 2,000 points, a DJIA mattress for the severe correction that is sure to come. And don't worry about your rich castle lords that you defend like a poor vassal, they will see the correction coming, will have reaped their profits and will issue huge "sell" orders, thereby accelerating the crash and...buying back at floor prices And off will the roller coaster go again.

Are you starting to "get it" now,?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184710 Jan 31, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ya know La Jacqueau, that Libtards think they can pick winners and losers and the economy will improve whereas Conservatives believe that if we just overall taxes and cut the red tape, many more businesses will be effected positively.
A rising tide lifts all ships.
Wasn't that Nixon's, Reagan's, GHB's, GWB's strategy? How'd that work out? Tell us how many budget surpluses were begotten in those 24 years? Er. ZERO.

"A rising tide lifts all ships". Like the Titanic?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184711 Jan 31, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I was traveling most of yesterday. I drove instead of flying as there was low level icing and my plane is not equipped with de/anti-icing. I will be spending the weekend with my daughter and grandson.
He has a big basketball game tomorrow. Last year when he was in Junior High he was the only white kid on the team but this year there are now two of them. OMG, I wonder what the black kids are thinking?
The school is about 50/50 Black/White but few white kids play basketball and my g-son is to thin to play football. He does soccer and baseball too!
Oh, he was pretty sick yesterday and doing better today. I hope he is well enough to play as I would hate to have made the trip just to sit in a house.
Matters not the subject, you HAVE to mention black-white. How you obsess on race!

SCENARIO : All-black basketball team, except for one white kid.

Black player to his black teammates : "Hey, guys, get a load of that white kid. Bet he can't jump and run like us black bros"

Another black player : "True, man, he can't, but look how clean and polite him and his folks are".

HA HA
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#184712 Jan 31, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I think La Jacqueau is getting paranoid as he seems to think everyone else is me.
That seems to happen quite often ...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184713 Jan 31, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

I think La Jacqueau is getting paranoid as he seems to think everyone else is me.
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
That seems to happen quite often ...
Well, I don't think Rogue Scholar deserves the supreme insult , namely to be accused of being you LMAO (Dale-Leave The Room tm reg'd)

You're so easy. Are ALL CONservative easy like you?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#184714 Jan 31, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

I think La Jacqueau is getting paranoid as he seems to think everyone else is me.

Well, I don't think Rogue Scholar deserves the supreme insult , namely to be accused of being you LMAO (Dale-Leave The Room tm reg'd)

You're so easy. Are ALL CONservative easy like you?
Oh look. Someone spilled more cheap Canadian whine on the thread.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184715 Jan 31, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh look. Someone spilled more cheap Canadian whine on the thread.
Lame, ohhh so birther-like lame. Wasn't bad enough, you now resort to witless birther prose? Like my daddy used to say : "Son, be patient. Eventually it all goes out with the bath water."

And so it does. CON servatives, dey sooo dumb.

Misc : Did you know that more CON servatives shoot themselves dead whilst cleaning their firearms than all other adherents of political parties put together?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#184716 Jan 31, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>Lame, ohhh so birther-like lame. Wasn't bad enough, you now resort to witless birther prose? Like my daddy used to say : "Son, be patient. Eventually it all goes out with the bath water."

And so it does. CON servatives, dey sooo dumb.

Misc : Did you know that more CON servatives shoot themselves dead whilst cleaning their firearms than all other adherents of political parties put together?


More pathetic whine?

Perhaps we should revisit the difference between play law and real law - that was a shining example of both incessant whining and Jercque's inability to comprehend English .... Of course I would be forced to read Jercque's old posts long enough to refresh the examples of his tendency to whine out of his ass .... And we all know how painful reading through pages of Jercque-whine can be
Frank

Spokane, WA

#184718 Jan 31, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
WHAT A PRESIDENT. Anyone who has visited Truman's Key West White House will bow to his greatness, said greatness woven in modesty.
==========
==========
Harry & Bess
(This seems unreal in today's "I'm entitled" world)
Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many, or more important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 32 Presidents preceding him.
However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he leftthe White House.
The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence Missouri .
His wife had inherited the house from her mother and father and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.
When he retired from office in 1952 his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year.
Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year.
After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There was no Secret Service following them.
When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."
Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing,
"I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason
for any award, Congressional or otherwise."
As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.
Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth.
Today, too many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale
(ie. Illinois ).
Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to
tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!"
We should have cloned him!
Obama is nothing like Truman,compared to Truman,Obama is nothing. You didn't mention that Truman didn't go on multimillion dollar vacations on tax payers expense. Obama should read some history books and find out how other occupants of the White House kept their dignity. No previous occupant of The White House would have ever made any of the dozens of statements that Obama has made. Imagine how history would have treated McKinley if he said something like if I had a son he would look like -- or one of Obama's infamous racist statements.

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