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Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#184408 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you explain the difference between a "taxed Indian" and "untaxed Indian" as stated in our Constitution?
Let the court explain:

Willie [a Native American] claims that federal income tax laws cannot apply to Native Americans, relying on a quote from the United States Constitution stating, "Indians not taxed. However, he misinterprets this phrase. It relates solely to state taxation and does not restrict the federal government's ability to levy income tax It has long been established that "Indians are citizens and that in ordinary affairs of life, not governed by treaties or remedial legislation, they are subject to the payment of income taxes as are other citizens. To be tax exempt, the income must have been derived `directly' from the [tax-exempt] land." US v. Willie, 941 F.2d 1384, 1400 (10th Cir. 1991)(internal citations omitted)
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Indianapolis, IN

#184409 Jan 20, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>"All persons born in the US and not subject to any foreign power are citizens", this little phrase means the same thing as "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)".
Violations of the Constitution does not make law or precedent.

"all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.
Repeating Play Law over and over doesn't change the fact that it is pure crapola

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#184410 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you explain the difference between a "taxed Indian" and "untaxed Indian" as stated in our Constitution?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It's right in Article 1 Section 2. Do you want me to explain to you how to tie your shoes as well?
Then you know that during a census, they will count illegal aliens but not untaxed Indians! WHY? Because their reservations are not considered part of the United States!!!
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#184411 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Does it seem odd that the Iranian embassy hostage happened when Jimmy "The White Peanut Man" Carter was in the White House and the Benghazi embassy assault happened while Barrack :"The Black Peanut Man" Obama was in the White House? Why? Because the bad guys knew they could get away with it!!!
<quoted text>
If Jimmy "The White Peanut Man" Carter had ordered the embassy closed when he should have, there would be nothing to go to war over. Same with Benghazi.
You do know that the Brits and the Red Cross had pulled out of Benghazi but Obama was willing to have Americans killed rather then evacuate or reenforce the embassy.
Just like when Slobberin' Ronnie Rayguns failed to protect the Marines in Beirut.

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#184412 Jan 20, 2014
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
If WW3 happens it will Destroy the Planet just look at this site to see what happens when Nuclear War happens
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/nukes/nuclear...
Well, if all they do is nuke Wash. DC, that will not necessarily be a bad thing.

Since: May 10

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#184415 Jan 20, 2014
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Just like when Slobberin' Ronnie Rayguns failed to protect the Marines in Beirut.
Hummm, truck bombs were not common back then and were not considered a threat.
Hummmm, how's Global Warming working out for ya?
Also, why are you back. Worried about something?
Oh, BTW, they also truck bombed the French barracks at the same time so I guess the French were not expecting it either. But at Benghazi the Red Cross and the Brits had pulled out and Obama ..... took no actions what so ever.

Beirut Bombings deaths:

241 American servicemen
58 French servicemen
6 civilians
2 suicide bombers
Total: 307
Injured (non-fatal) 75

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184416 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Does it seem odd that the Iranian embassy hostage happened when Jimmy "The White Peanut Man" Carter was in the White House and the Benghazi embassy assault happened while Barrack :"The Black Peanut Man" Obama was in the White House? Why? Because the bad guys knew they could get away with it!!!
<quoted text>
If Jimmy "The White Peanut Man" Carter had ordered the embassy closed when he should have, there would be nothing to go to war over. Same with Benghazi.
You do know that the Brits and the Red Cross had pulled out of Benghazi but Obama was willing to have Americans killed rather then evacuate or reenforce the embassy.
Look, Nado, who was in charge when those Beirut barracks were annihilated? Who was in charge when 9/11 occurred? Do you still want to compare the U.S. Embassy in Teheran (no one killed) and Benghazi (4 killed, regrettably) with the aforementioned?

Number 1 :Why should Carter have closed the U.S. embassy in Teheran? How could he or anyone else expect that the Iranians would not have adhered to the the Vienna convention on diplomatic immunity.? Even warring nations, whether they be the USSR, the U.S., Nazi Germany, Japan, had respected international laws on diplomatic relations. As have and had all other nations. The Brits, French, Canada, etc, kept their embassies open at that time. Why not the U.S.? You're way off on this. Based on your threat assessment, why are U.S. embassies still operating right now in Bagdad, Kabul, Saana, Cairo, Tripoli, Beirut, Islamabad, East African countries, etc?

Number 2 : Benghazi. A CIA intelligence post which the U.S. wanted functioning, good or bad. The Ambassador, and it is confirmed by reports, refused additional protection. Benghazi was a bad bad thing that happened. The aftermath and the way the White House and State handled it was not, to say the least, very good.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184417 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey La Jacqueau, you do know the Canadians had U.S. supplied, nuclear tipped Genie Rockets, don't you???
CF-101B of the Canadian Forces firing Genie in 1982
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CF-101B_fir...
We got rid of them. Good riddance and never more. Did I not tell you what to do with your "umbrella"?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184418 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, we only launched ONE Genie rocket with a live nuclear warhead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F-89J_Monta...
You do know, LT G.W. Bush had Genie rockets on his F-102s, don't you? I wonder if the U.S. Navy would have trusted LY John Kerry with a nuke?
You wrote : "LT G.W. Bush had Genie rockets on his F-102s " That is absolutely terrifying.

Yes, although not a fan of Kerry, I would've preferred him with a nuke any day.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#184419 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, truck bombs were not common back then and were not considered a threat.
Hummmm, how's Global Warming working out for ya?
Also, why are you back. Worried about something?
Oh, BTW, they also truck bombed the French barracks at the same time so I guess the French were not expecting it either. But at Benghazi the Red Cross and the Brits had pulled out and Obama ..... took no actions what so ever.
Beirut Bombings deaths:
241 American servicemen
58 French servicemen
6 civilians
2 suicide bombers
Total: 307
Injured (non-fatal) 75
Yep....always an excuse for a repub. Keep on dancing, but I just handed you your ass.

Record high temps in CA right now. Anybody who does not see global warming is a fool.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184420 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, truck bombs were not common back then and were not considered a threat.
Hummmm, how's Global Warming working out for ya?
Also, why are you back. Worried about something?
Oh, BTW, they also truck bombed the French barracks at the same time so I guess the French were not expecting it either. But at Benghazi the Red Cross and the Brits had pulled out and Obama ..... took no actions what so ever.
Beirut Bombings deaths:
241 American servicemen
58 French servicemen
6 civilians
2 suicide bombers
Total: 307
Injured (non-fatal) 75
Strange, I asked you the exact same question yesterday, mentioned the droughts and forest fires in CA and Australia. No reply. Why?

As to Embassy, barracks and other bombings, no president, Repub or Dem, is directly responsible for these horrors. Do you think that presidents have the time to look after barracks and Embassy security? Maybe the military, or the CIA boobooed, not the presidents, whether they be Nixon, Carter, Reagan, GHB, Clinton, GWB or Obama.

Like Johannes said, you always have an excuse, whether it's for the Repubs when disasters occur on their watch or to cover your numerous missteps on Topix.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184421 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
It is really sad that streets named after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. are some of the most run-down and dangerous streets in America. WHY???
Urban streets named for MLK still struggle
Associated Press
By ALAN SCHER ZAGIER 23 hours ago
ST. LOUIS (AP) A walk down the 6-mile city street named for the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. yields plenty of images that would surely unsettle the civil rights leader: shuttered storefronts, open-air drug markets and a glut of pawn shops, quickie check-cashing providers and liquor stores.
The urban decay along Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Drive in St. Louis can be found in other major American cities, from Houston and Milwaukee to the nation's capital.
http://news.yahoo.com/urban-streets-named-mlk...
Martin Luther King was, still is, a giant of a man. What he did for racial equality is unprecedented, his example followed all over the world, notably in South Africa. Yet, all you have to say about him today, on HIS day, is that streets named after him are run-down, derelict etc. You are of course, as usual, wearing your racist blinders, not knowing, supposedly, that his name was given to streets often located in black ghettos where the inhabitants are not exactly "The Hamptons" high society. You seem to ignore that King did not represent the rich elite, the 1% that you worship, though you'll never be one of them. And as long as there are people like you, Martin Luther King streets will endure in their run-down and derelict states, as you prefer to spend $700 billion a year on useless armaments instead of improving schools, public housing, education in general, social programmes and promoting reasonably-priced university tuition.

Since: May 10

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#184424 Jan 20, 2014
Yep, MLK Day and Obama throws the Race Card out ..... AGAIN! Hey Bozzo, they voted you because you are black but they will vote you out because you are One Big Azz Mistake.

Since: May 10

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#184425 Jan 20, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Martin Luther King was, still is, a giant of a man. What he did for racial equality is unprecedented, his example followed all over the world, notably in South Africa. Yet, all you have to say about him today, on HIS day, is that streets named after him are run-down, derelict etc. You are of course, as usual, wearing your racist blinders, not knowing, supposedly, that his name was given to streets often located in black ghettos where the inhabitants are not exactly "The Hamptons" high society. You seem to ignore that King did not represent the rich elite, the 1% that you worship, though you'll never be one of them. And as long as there are people like you, Martin Luther King streets will endure in their run-down and derelict states, as you prefer to spend $700 billion a year on useless armaments instead of improving schools, public housing, education in general, social programmes and promoting reasonably-priced university tuition.
Well, it is that $700 Bin a year that keeps you free as freedom is never free. Next, you seem to think we can pour money into the ghetto schools and THAT will fix them. What will get ride of "poor" schools is getting rid of the teachers unions and privatizing the schools. Every student should be offered 75% of what it costs to send them to a public school and let them chose which school they want to go to.
I know, you Libtards are really in the right to chose so long as it has to do with abortion but that is about it. "Shut up, put on the gray Mao suit and go to the publix school as WE can teach you what to think!!!"
Oh, what is good for doctors should be good for teachers and college professors. NO tenure and if you can not produce, you're fired!!!
I have been fired only twice in my life but it is a wake up call and I am better off because of it.

Since: May 10

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#184426 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, truck bombs were not common back then and were not considered a threat.
Hummmm, how's Global Warming working out for ya?
Also, why are you back. Worried about something?
Oh, BTW, they also truck bombed the French barracks at the same time so I guess the French were not expecting it either. But at Benghazi the Red Cross and the Brits had pulled out and Obama ..... took no actions what so ever.
Beirut Bombings deaths:
241 American servicemen
58 French servicemen
6 civilians
2 suicide bombers
Total: 307
Injured (non-fatal) 75
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep....always an excuse for a repub. Keep on dancing, but I just handed you your ass.
Record high temps in CA right now. Anybody who does not see global warming is a fool.
Can you tell me why 58 French died at Beirut but no Brits died at Benghazi? Can't answer that and you won't dare to either. You never answer any questions.
Oh, "record" temps in Cali? Well two weeks ago we smashed an ALL TIME record here in Jacksonville. Did you hear that? Not a daily record nor a monthly record but an all time, any day, any month, any year record ....... by FOUR degrees!!!
And hen you consider the Urban Heat Island effect, you would expect to set new HIGH records but how to you answer an all time record LOW in the now 11th most populated city in the U.S.???
Oh, anyone who sees global warming is a fool because only by using the Urban Heat Island Effect are big cities getting hotter as the rest of Earth chills out!!!

Since: May 10

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#184427 Jan 20, 2014
Oh, just two winters ago the West Coast got hit by SEVEN Pineapple Expresses and they had all kinds of snow in California to include Yohands town. I know he claims it has never snowed in Yucaipa but Yohands didn't see it as his head was in a very dark place.
Tell us Yohands, how many Pineapple Expresses has California been hit with in the past two years?!? NONE?!? Maybe there is a relationship between the Pineapple Express and the amount of precipitation.
But what do I know about weather as eye es jest a stew ped chopper pilot.

Since: May 10

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#184428 Jan 20, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote : "LT G.W. Bush had Genie rockets on his F-102s " That is absolutely terrifying.
Yes, although not a fan of Kerry, I would've preferred him with a nuke any day.
Why if the United States trusted G.W. with a nuke on his plane, why does that bother you? You know nothing about nuclear surety! Ever hear of the Two-Man rule? And you can't figure out how there is a two-man rule on a plane with one seat in it, do you?!?
Nor do you know the difference between a "broken arrow" and a "bent spear"!!!

Since: May 10

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#184429 Jan 20, 2014
Yes, I was on Nuclear surety teams for about six months and yes I did draw by M10 (or M109) revolver and 18 rounds of ammo and, unlike Barney Fife, I put six in my revolver and the other dozen on my pocket and I was told if if I thought I needed to shoot someone, DO IT!
wojar

Bristol, CT

#184430 Jan 20, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you explain the difference between a "taxed Indian" and "untaxed Indian" as stated in our Constitution?
<quoted text>
Then you know that during a census, they will count illegal aliens but not untaxed Indians! WHY? Because their reservations are not considered part of the United States!!!
Yawn.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#184431 Jan 20, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Doesn't need to be a "foreign influence" clause, "All persons born in the US and not subject to any foreign power are citizens" is the same thing as "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)".
"all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.
So you see any person born in the US with foreign attachments doesn't receive a US citizenship.
I think you should stick to the dual-citizenship thingy. Oh, that is right a dual-citizen does have those foreign attachments.
Probably the best thing you could do, would be to get use to the fact, Obama is not authorized to be POTUS.
Sorry Dufus but an alleged "foreign attachment" by virtue of operation of foreign law for one born in the US is a nullity. Play Law fails again.

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