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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#184498 Jan 23, 2014
Well, it does not say how often it snows there but it did say they have "snow clearing machines" so I guess it is not that unusual because I don't think anyone has that stuff here in Florida!

Snowfall shuts Srinagar-Jammu highway, rail service
IANS Jan 22, 2014,

SRINAGAR: Heavy snowfall across the Kashmir Valley on Wednesday forced closure of road links between the valley and the rest of the country.

The strategic Srinagar-Jammu highway was closed by the authorities for all sorts of vehicular traffic Wednesday morning following heavy snowfall in Banihal and Patnitop sectors and landslides in Ramban sector of the over-300-km long road.

The highway is the lifeline of supplies to the landlocked valley.

Heavy snowfall has also forced the railway authorities to suspend the operations of the Baramulla-Banihal train, another surface link between the valley and the Jammu region.

Snowfall started Tuesday evening and continued through Wednesday in Srinagar and all other parts of the valley.

While Srinagar city recorded a few inches of accumulated snow on the roads, reports of heavy snowfall have come in from Gulmarg, Pahalgam and other towns.

Electric supply was suspended soon after the snowfall began.

Authorities in Srinagar and other towns have moved out snow clearance machines to restore inter-district road connectivity, while engineers of the electric department said they were working to restore the electricity supply.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...

Since: May 10

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#184499 Jan 23, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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2. NASA PLUS Colombia Univ? Does it get any better than that?

You did not respond to my post which mentioned the incredible heat waves in Australia and California. I was not aware the forest fires IN WINTER in California occurred in Urban heat islands. Same in Australia.
How many times has Dr. James Hanson been arrested? Please note they did not say NASA-GISS nor mention Columbia University but that was where he worked. He finally retired last year because his activism and numerous arrest where tainting his work.
Oh, you do know that prior to 1977 that Dr. James Hansen was a proponent of "the next little Ice Age", don't you?

NASA’s James Hansen arrested yet again
Posted on August 29, 2011 by Anthony Watts
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/29/nasas-j...

Since: May 10

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#184500 Jan 23, 2014
Are there TWO Dr. James Hansons out there?

They predicted an ice age in the 70's
"Aiding Rasool's research was a 'computer program developed by Dr. James Hansen'."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/They-predicte...

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#184501 Jan 23, 2014
Johannes wrote:
The Fat Lady just might be singing...might be the beginning of the end for the Fat Man.... "what goes around, comes around'
Federal prosecutors have escalated their criminal investigation into allegations that Gov. Chris Christie's aides created traffic jams as political payback, subpoenaing his re-election campaign and the state Republican leadership.
The subpoenas seek documents related to the closure of traffic lanes near the George Washington Bridge, said attorney Mark Sheridan, who represents the Christie for Governor organization and the Republican State Committee.
Two points here, one is that there are only four Republicans but eight Democrats on the state's investigation board. Next, Gov. Christie is cooperating? Is Obama cooperating on the Benghazi investigation? Did anyone die "because" of Bridge Gate? Did anyone die in Benghazi?!?
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#184502 Jan 23, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Two points here, one is that there are only four Republicans but eight Democrats on the state's investigation board. Next, Gov. Christie is cooperating? Is Obama cooperating on the Benghazi investigation? Did anyone die "because" of Bridge Gate? Did anyone die in Benghazi?!?
These were federal subpoenas, not the state investigation board that you assumed. Oh, the state issued their own subpoenas as well.

Yet another example of how a little knowledge is dangerous....and in your case, very little.

Go back to pimpin'!!!
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#184503 Jan 23, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Two points here, one is that there are only four Republicans but eight Democrats on the state's investigation board. Next, Gov. Christie is cooperating? Is Obama cooperating on the Benghazi investigation? Did anyone die "because" of Bridge Gate? Did anyone die in Benghazi?!?
Oh, how about those 241 that died in the Beirut bombing? Oh, I forgot, Tommy always give a pass to repubs, no matter how poor the are.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184504 Jan 23, 2014
The bible is cool

WELCOME TO COLORADO



For those who haven't heard, Colorado just passed both laws - gay marriage and legalized marijuana.

The fact that gay marriage and marijuana were legalized on the same day makes perfect biblical sense because Leviticus 20:13 says,

"If a man lies with another man they should be stoned."

We just hadn't interpreted it correctly before!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184505 Jan 23, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Two points here, one is that there are only four Republicans but eight Democrats on the state's investigation board. Next, Gov. Christie is cooperating? Is Obama cooperating on the Benghazi investigation? Did anyone die "because" of Bridge Gate? Did anyone die in Benghazi?!?
Did anyone die in Afghanistan? Did anyone die in "'Mission accomplished" Iraq?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184506 Jan 23, 2014
Johannes wrote:
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Oh, how about those 241 that died in the Beirut bombing? Oh, I forgot, Tommy always give a pass to repubs, no matter how poor the are.
Oh, but V.P. Bush visited, Johannes. You just don't get it, do you? Rogue gets it.

Then, GWB strutted in his military uniform on board that carrier under the banner "Mission accomplished". Rogue was impressed, as GWB looked so much more presidential than Obama who got Bin Laden. Yup, leave it to Rogue, he knows military stuff.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184507 Jan 23, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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How many times has Dr. James Hanson been arrested? Please note they did not say NASA-GISS nor mention Columbia University but that was where he worked. He finally retired last year because his activism and numerous arrest where tainting his work.
Oh, you do know that prior to 1977 that Dr. James Hansen was a proponent of "the next little Ice Age", don't you?
NASA’s James Hansen arrested yet again
Posted on August 29, 2011 by Anthony Watts
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/29/nasas-j...
And the relevance is? Still looking for it. Still no answer about California winter heat wave and Australia drought, heat and forest fires. Oh, how about last summer when weather maps showed ALL of the continental US and most of Southern Canada in RED, record-breaking heat. We in Ottawa shattered practically all heat records, from May to September, as did most North American areas. No comment? Not surprising.
Jock Scratch

Sanford, FL

#184508 Jan 23, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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And the relevance is? Still looking for it. Still no answer about California winter heat wave and Australia drought, heat and forest fires. Oh, how about last summer when weather maps showed ALL of the continental US and most of Southern Canada in RED, record-breaking heat. We in Ottawa shattered practically all heat records, from May to September, as did most North American areas. No comment? Not surprising.
Karma will be your bitch, jizzbucket

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184509 Jan 24, 2014
Jock Scratch wrote:
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Karma will be your bitch, jizzbucket
And ignorance your "raison d'être".

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#184510 Jan 24, 2014
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WASHINGTON - The government's Pivacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board has concluded that the NSA's mass domestic phone spying is illegal, inffective and should end.

American Civil Liberties Union Deputy Legal Director Jameel Jaffer, who testified before the board in July, had this reaction:

"We welcome the Board's report, and we agree with it's principal conclusions. That the NSA"s call-records dragnet is illegal, ineffective and presents a serious threat to civil liberties. The board's report makes even clearer that the government's surveillance policies, as well as our system of oversight, are in need of far-reaching reform. The report should spur immediate action by both the administration and Congress."

The PCLOS was created by Congress on the recommendation of the 9/11 Commission and its five members were appointed by Barack Obama.

source: ACLU website
hahaha

Canyon Country, CA

#184511 Jan 24, 2014
you morons had enough of obama yet?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#184512 Jan 24, 2014
Jacques,
Any and all advances in the reduction of harmful greenhouse gas emissions are offset tenfold by the needless expansion of air travel.
loose

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184513 Jan 24, 2014
Rogue, oh wow, two good DJIA days for you. Damn Obama, all his fault too. That'll show him.

Since: Oct 08

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#184514 Jan 24, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You foolishly wrote : "We've had it right all along ". Are you mad?
Also, and because I'm not a U.S.citizen, does that signify that the numbers I advanced (435, 50, 9, 222, 197) are wrong? If I say Washington is the capital of the United States of America, am I wrong because I'm not a U.S. citizen?
If I say you have no logical reply, that you are in total denial and a birther, am I wrong because I'm not a U.S. citizen?
Who were you before cowardly changing your moniker to "Chicagoan by Birth"? Your prose has that same insignificant and clueless ring I've often had the misfortune of reading before.
Yes, you are wrong, because you still are part of the monarchy, yes the English monarchy, you haven't figured a way to break the shackles, something we did 237 yrs. ago. Who are you really? Are you Jock Quez from Montreal? Or, are you Jake from Ottawa? We'll allow you to pick??

Since: May 10

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#184515 Jan 24, 2014
Oh poor Obummer Boy is in a panic as his agenda starts to crumble. Bill Clinton will be remembered as the president between two Bushs and Obummer Boy will be remembered as .....!

Obama Calls Out Rush Limbaugh, Fox News for Painting ‘Caricature’ for ‘Republican Base’
The Wrap By Greg Gilman

President Barack Obama is blaming his rocky relationship with Republicans in Congress on Rush Limbaugh, and the constant stream of bad press he receives from Fox News.

In the New Yorker follow-up interview to the magazine’s in-depth portrait of the President, Obama is described as being “particularly touchy” when discussing the notion that his inability to compromise with Republicans prevents him from passing more legislation. The publication’s initial interview made media waves earlier this week due to his comments about marijuana.
http://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/obama-calls-r...

Since: May 10

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#184516 Jan 24, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Oh, but V.P. Bush visited, Johannes. You just don't get it, do you? Rogue gets it.
Then, GWB strutted in his military uniform on board that carrier under the banner "Mission accomplished". Rogue was impressed, as GWB looked so much more presidential than Obama who got Bin Laden. Yup, leave it to Rogue, he knows military stuff.
You are only pissed at Bush's visit to that Navy aircraft carrier because he looked great and the men loved him. When will Obummer Boy try a trick like that? If me does fly aboard a carrier it will be flying backwards in the back of a COD and the sailors will only be polite,,,,,,, and nothing more!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184517 Jan 24, 2014
wojar wrote:
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The evident meaning is that Dufus Dale does not comprehend that foreign law cannot operate within the borders of the United States and that an ordinary alien or a child born thereto is not subject to a foreign power while in the United States and such inoperative foreign law thereby cannot create an immediate natural allegiance.
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LMAO!!!
JURISDICTION IN NINETEENTH CENTURY INTERNATIONAL LAW AND ITS MEANING IN THE CITIZENSHIP CLAUSE OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT.
Source: St. Louis University Public Law Review . 2013, Vol. 32 Issue 2, p329-387. 59p.
Author(s): MENSEL, ROBERT E.
Subject Terms:*JURISDICTION *JURISDICTION (International law)*DUE process of law *CITIZENSHIP *INTERNATIONAL conflict *UNITED States -- History -- War of 1812 *BIRTHRIGHT citizenship (United States)*ALLEGIANCE -- United States
Abstract:
This article addresses the meaning of the citizenship clauses of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Fourteenth Amendment by augmenting the historical record relevant to those clauses. It argues that the key to understanding their meaning lies in the nineteenth century concept of allegiance, the central concept in the international law of citizenship and subjecthood in the nineteenth century. International law, diplomatic history, and international conflict centered around that concept, reveal complexities not fully explored in the previous scholarly literature on the citizenship clauses. Conflicting national claims to the allegiance of subjects and citizens and to the duties they owed to sovereigns caused, in part, the War of 1812. They almost led the U.S. to war with Austria in 1853, and they contributed to tensions with other German states. They flared up again with Great Britain in conflicts over conscription by the United States of British subjects in 1862, and in the Fenian conflicts of 1866. Conflict arose over the extent to which sovereigns whose subjects emigrated to the United States retained jurisdiction over those emigrants based on allegiance to their native sovereigns. This, to which I refer as the jurisdiction arising from allegiance, differed from and to some extent clashed with territorial jurisdiction. It was recognized as a matter of international law as an extraterritorial jurisdiction grounded in the relationship between the subject and the subject's original sovereign. It was vastly more extensive and expansive than its enervated twenty-first century descendant, and so, in a seeming paradox, has remained generally invisible to the modern eye. To understand it is to gain important insights into the meanings underlying both the Act and the Amendment. The citizenship clauses of the Act and the Amendment offered opportunities to relieve this international tension, even while addressing their principal purpose of making citizens of the freedmen. The congressional debates over the Act and Amendment lapsed into incoherence because one group of legislators discussed the proposed Amendment as if the word jurisdiction ' therein meant the jurisdiction arising from allegiance. That suggests that they intended to exclude from birthright citizenship the children of aliens, of persons who owed allegiance to some other sovereign at the time of the child's birth in the United States. Their opponents discussed the proposed Amendment as if the word jurisdiction' meant only territorial jurisdiction. That meant that anyone born within the United States would be a citizen by birthright, with only the most trivial exceptions, unless excluded explicitly. The greater weight of language and history favors the conclusion that the word "jurisdiction" in the Fourteenth Amendment was predominantly understood to mean the jurisdiction arising from allegiance. The weight of the evidence is not overwhelming, however, and the disposition of enormously important modern issues on the basis of that weight, without further research, might well be ill-advised.

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