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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184316 Jan 18, 2014
Miller time!!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184317 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Does that mean we belong to Canada and Mexico?
Huh? RU on LSD? Or is it schizophrenia? What part of the US is located within the borders of Canada? What part of the US is located within the borders of Mexico? And when was the US bounded by the nation of Canada-Mexico obtaining quasi-independent status by treaty with the nation of Canada-Mexico?

UR a drunken fool.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Elk was not just like a German. Germany is not located within the borders of the United States and does not exist as a nation within the borders of the United States on the basis of a treaty with the United States. Elk's claim to citizenship was based on the fact that he was born within the limits of the United States However, he was not born a citizen because he was not completely under the jurisdiction of the United States since he was within the Indian reservation which was a foreign nation. Now please explain how being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany.
Puh-lease! Grow up!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184318 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, and even better checkout what Howard said about within the limits of the US.
Again, moron, your comment concerned statutory law, which you claimed made "All persons born to citizens outside the US ... citizens of the US".

Dufus Dale: "of course this statutory law, not Constitutional Law".

Howard was concerned with the 14th amendment,. not 8 USC 1401.

Got Alzheimer's? Or is your brain burned out from meth?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually that is not true, Mr. Play Justice.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184319 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>
Madison couldn't see what was coming, "All persons born in the US and not subject to any foreign power/and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)".
Madison saw what was coming, as the 14th amendment is a restatement of what he declared.

Place of birth is what determines allegiance in the United States. That's what he said. That means persons born in the US of alien parents are not subject to any foreign power. He had the bases covered.

Sorry, loser.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184320 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so now Obama wasn't born a citizen, since he wasn't under the complete jurisdiction of the US Constitution, wish you would makeup your mind. This is what I have been telling you, how many years.
Huh?

Being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany? Really? Being born in Honolulu is like being born on an Indian reservation? Really?

Dufus Dale is missing a few cards from his deck.

Miller Time? It can't hurt, Dale has no sense to be dulled.

[QUOTE who='wojar"]
<quoted text>
Elk was not just like a German. Germany is not located within the borders of the United States and does not exist as a nation within the borders of the United States on the basis of a treaty with the United States. Elk's claim to citizenship was based on the fact that he was born within the limits of the United States. However, he was not born a citizen because he was not completely under the jurisdiction of the United States since he was within the Indian reservation which was a foreign nation. Now please explain how being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany.
Puh-lease! Grow up![/QUOTE]

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184321 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, Elk was just like a German, he belong to another nation. The limits of the US stopped at the Nations borders, why do you think we made treaties with them, we don't make treaties with ourselves.
Elk had nothing to do with being like a German. Does Dufus Dale really think Hans Schmidt born in Berlin of two German parents not US citizens could claim US citizenship because he was born within the borders of the United States?

Just like a German? What a DOLT!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Bozo, persons born in the US of alien parents are completely subject to US jurisdiction. Elk, who was born within the limits of the US buyt on an Indian reservation was an exception. that has nothing to do with persons born in the US of aliens from foreign countries outside the US.
Grow up, child.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184322 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Citizenship clause? Got Alzheimer's?
Dufus Dale: "All persons born to citizens outside the US are citizens of the US, of course this statutory law, not Constitutional Law."
Now please, does he really think statutory law is the citizenship clause of the fourteenth amendment?
Apparently Dale forgot his train of thought. That's what happens when he's intoxicated by drugs and grandiose delusions.
Don't act dumb, I don't like to argue with dumb people, now tell us what the first 8 words of the citizenship clause states, but Howard stated within the limits of.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184323 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
Being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany? Really? Being born in Honolulu is like being born on an Indian reservation? Really?
Dufus Dale is missing a few cards from his deck.
Miller Time? It can't hurt, Dale has no sense to be dulled.
<quoted text>
Hell, Obama could have been born in the "Oval Office", but according to the framers of the 14th Citizenship Clause, he would still be an alien.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184324 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Madison saw what was coming, as the 14th amendment is a restatement of what he declared.
Place of birth is what determines allegiance in the United States. That's what he said. That means persons born in the US of alien parents are not subject to any foreign power. He had the bases covered.
Sorry, loser.
Not hardly! He was born subject to a foreign power making him ineligible for citizenship in the US.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184325 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Don't act dumb, I don't like to argue with dumb people, now tell us what the first 8 words of the citizenship clause states, but Howard stated within the limits of.
Dufus Dale: "All persons born to citizens outside the US are citizens of the US, of course this statutory law, not Constitutional Law."

Now Dale, you admitted that persons born to citizens outside the US gain citizenship through statutory law, NOT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. That is by your own admission in your own words. So Howard has nothing to do with it, according to YOU.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Citizenship clause? Got Alzheimer's?
Dufus Dale: "All persons born to citizens outside the US are citizens of the US, of course this statutory law, not Constitutional Law."
Now please, does he really think statutory law is the citizenship clause of the fourteenth amendment?
Apparently Dale forgot his train of thought. That's what happens when he's intoxicated by drugs and grandiose delusions.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184326 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
Being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany? Really? Being born in Honolulu is like being born on an Indian reservation? Really?
Dufus Dale is missing a few cards from his deck.
Miller Time? It can't hurt, Dale has no sense to be dulled.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! I really think you have lost your senses, I am really sorry I did that to you.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184327 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Not hardly! He was born subject to a foreign power making him ineligible for citizenship in the US.
By what law that has effect and force within the limits of the United States could Obama be denied citizenship at birth?

You do know that the brothers Boisseliers who were natural born in the US of alien German parents were not under the jurisdiction of Germany, and the US told Germany to F--- O-- when Germany demanded they serve in the German military.

Were the brothers Boisseliers subject to a foreign power? if so why couldn't Germany do a friggin' thing?

Eh GENIUS? Hee hee hee!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Madison saw what was coming, as the 14th amendment is a restatement of what he declared.
Place of birth is what determines allegiance in the United States. That's what he said. That means persons born in the US of alien parents are not subject to any foreign power. He had the bases covered.
Sorry, loser.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184328 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dufus Dale: "All persons born to citizens outside the US are citizens of the US, of course this statutory law, not Constitutional Law."
Now Dale, you admitted that persons born to citizens outside the US gain citizenship through statutory law, NOT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. That is by your own admission in your own words. So Howard has nothing to do with it, according to YOU.
<quoted text>
The Constitution has everything to do with it. Now would you please tell us who are citizens of the US per the 14th amendment.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#184329 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Don't act dumb, I don't like to argue with dumb people, now tell us what the first 8 words of the citizenship clause states, but Howard stated within the limits of.
Poor dumb Dufus. Do you enjoy being wrong all of the time?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184330 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
Miller time!!!!
You've had one too many already.
JBH

Delta, Canada

#184331 Jan 18, 2014
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me for butting in, as this is just too much. Here's news for you, Dale, US LAW HAS NO EFFECT OUTSIDE OF U.S. BORDERS. NONE, ZILCH. NADA when it comes to citizenship or any other reason for that matter. Any citizen of the U.S. or, of, any other country, forfeits his/her rights as a citizen of the U.S. or ANY other country when he/she enters another country. An American or ANY other citizen can be arrested for ANY reason that pleases the host gov't, right or wrong, and there is nothing, outside granting consular assistance as defined by the Vienna convention, that the U.S. or any other country can do about it. Consular assistance can only be an attempt to procure legal assistance, make contact with family, assist in obtaining funds. But the U.S. or any other country cannot intervene in anything the host country wants to do with him/her short of invading that country to recoup its citizen, which it is not about to do.
^&*(===-====

What a silly joke is, that you speak your garbage language?
You are no Laymen of any language, nor can you make it as the main frame of mainstream language.
Your mind is like an inferno, about to explode, as ordinary comments would make your high-ANXIETY PLAY OUT for your mythical unreality that you jump into the heated explosion in outer space.

Your soul does not belong in this world that you might think you like to see if there is another universe better for you, of which is not as found .

You are full of fallacious fantasy to make a fool of your bitter self all the time.

You Fracking wacko, Joeq-Blow-Low would still be here, only on the other side, day and night, wanting to learn English and American politics, would even think of English as self-accredited LANGUAGE, AS LONG AS THERE ARE THOSE having the same stand to defend you Joeq-Blow, being in line with their thinking.

But you do not know much English and other things.

Fracturing dummy not knowing much English and other things, looks around, reads some comments, then would call Gibberish , yet he does not know what Gibberish is, as he just can't define it, for that reflects the poor standard of his make up--primary coming from lacking basic education.

Because frigging wacko is shortage in the language and head, he would call someone to decipher what he does not understand.

No wonder this country has few talents and goes down as well, because Blow-Joe-Jacq-low is so low in life that he has been deprived of any education.
Consequently Jacq -Blow-Low is under-educated , so that he has nothing in life that makes sense, and therefore would come to Topix by humiliating self like the blundering muppet.

Blow-Jacq-Low is the proletariat peasant, who has seen too many same hillbillies like him, being far away from the madding crowds, wants to make a change to demonstrate if he is really happy being dumb on Topix, because as long as any comments make him dis-oriented and fainted, that is what he would say, "Gibberish."

What a Fanatic-Cannie-maniac is-- that this proletariat folly's life of you the Jacq-Blow-Low is all that is, as being put down all the time, because your calling deciphering Gibberish proves that true facts indicate that all your thinking is merely the neo-radical molded robot with no education speaking -- you this hillbilly of no talent peasant from this country can't defend Obama, by having to be defend yourself instead, from whatever you say?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#184332 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Elk was not just like a German. Germany is not located within the borders of the United States and does not exist as a nation within the borders of the United States on the basis of a treaty with the United States. Elk's claim to citizenship was based on the fact that he was born within the limits of the United States However, he was not born a citizen because he was not completely under the jurisdiction of the United States since he was within the Indian reservation which was a foreign nation. Now please explain how being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany.
Puh-lease! Grow up!
<quoted text>
You're right. Germany is not located within the borders of the U.S. But, according to LRS aka Dale, Canada is located within the borders of France. See?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#184333 Jan 18, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dufus Dale: "All persons born to citizens outside the US are citizens of the US, of course this statutory law, not Constitutional Law."
Now Dale, you admitted that persons born to citizens outside the US gain citizenship through statutory law, NOT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. That is by your own admission in your own words. So Howard has nothing to do with it, according to YOU.
<quoted text>
Howard/Trumbull had everything to do with it, that is why we have statutory citizens, but they also deprived people born in the US of alien parents their citizenship to the US, not a bad trade-off.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184334 Jan 18, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I really think you have lost your senses, I am really sorry I did that to you.
That's a rebuttal?

Being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany? Really? Being born in Honolulu is like being born on an Indian reservation? Really?

Looks like Dufus Dale has hanged himself with his own rope.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
Being born in Honolulu is like being born in Germany? Really? Being born in Honolulu is like being born on an Indian reservation? Really?
Dufus Dale is missing a few cards from his deck.
Miller Time? It can't hurt, Dale has no sense to be dulled.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#184335 Jan 18, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor dumb Dufus. Do you enjoy being wrong all of the time?
Enjoy? He is enthralled by his delusions.

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