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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Citizen org

Oakdale, NY

#183465 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Sorry Tootsie, The Labor Participation Rate proves that FIVE MILLION are employed now than when Obama entered the White House. In fact the Labor Participation Rate is the highest it has been since Jimmy Cater left office and for the every same reasons.
You can show us all the twisted loony-left sources you want but would you believe Obama's on Dept of Labor report?
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Just keep drinking that Red Kool Aide.
After all these years, you Rogue, still do not have a clue who owns most of Washington DC.

Greenspan and Bernanke are the two most powerful men worldwide in the last 50 years.

Why do you think a supposedly liberal Democrat like Bill Clinton kept Greenspan in charge?

I prefer the Purple Grape BTW.

LOL

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BEYOND THE MEDIA MATRIX
THE GLOBAL OLIGARCHY / http://tinyurl.com/klcc7cs
The world is run by a vastly powerful and wealthy British-American-European oligarchy of international bankers and dynastic families, and international corporations, which controls much of the wealth of the world. This cabal dominates the largest banks and corporations, manipulates national currencies and economies, controls the media of most nations, and commands the earth's resources. Their wealth and power originated in the middle ages and expanded over the centuries, and today they reign supreme.
Few people are aware of the power and global influence of these oligarchs because they dominate the major media. As a result, instead of informing us, the media feeds us a steady diet of entertainment, disinformation and lies - to distract us and misdirect us - so that the oligarchy can achieve its plan to dominate the globe.
http://beyondthemediamatrix.net/
Dale

Wichita, KS

#183466 Jan 4, 2014
JBH wrote:
Iraq city falls fully into hands of al-Qaida group
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press
POSTED: 01/04/14, 1:14 PM PST |
BAGHDAD (AP)— The city center of Iraq’s Fallujah has fallen completely into the hands of fighters from the al-Qaida-linked Islamic State in Iraq and Levant, police said Saturday, yet another victory for the hardline group that has made waves across the region in recent days.
ISIL is also one of the strongest rebel units in Syria, where it has imposed a strict version of Islamic law in territories it holds and kidnapped and killed anyone it deems critical of its rule. Also on Saturday, it claimed responsibility for a suicide car bombing in a Shiite-dominated neighborhood in Lebanon.
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From what is described by the above, US policy appears to promote and build the Al-Qaeda groups.
Obama has not learned the lesson of Iraq as he wanted to strike Syria to support the Muslim rebels.
Lots of Muslim elements came from Chechen, the west and everywhere to join the rebels in Syria while Al-Qaeda went in as well since Obama favored them and was on the rebels side, that Al-Qaeda loved the unrest violences created by Obama supporting rebels..
Syria is the work of Russia to restrict and deter Muslim and AL-QAEDA terror groups so that Syria could not have too much difficulty to fight rebels.
In Libya, Obama also built the Al-Qaeda there subsequently that Libya is not really stable.
So to speak, no government US helped installing is stable and secure, including the current Iraq government.
Saddam was the one who would deter and reject Al-Qaeda entrance.
If the present Iraq government would be run down or overthrown through more than 9 years of turbulent continuous violences, what is the point of liberation for the regime change?
But more than 8 years of unrest in Iraq is termed un-savable as a big failure, which is viewed as evil and ugly to still start that sort of venture in the new world.
Who says what the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED means, as that is only Bush on Aircraft-carrier by saying so?
Facts did show that when Biden was in Iraq, he DECLARED loudly that was A MISSION ACCOMPLISHED that Obama said so.
For this means approving the mission, as real facts exhibit that US is still supporting what is left-over in Iraq, that tells that Obama approves and supports that MISSION ACCOMPLISHED -- the Mission being invasion for regime change OF supporting the current Iraq government subsequently, as examples of sending Helfire missiles and unmanned aircrafts to fight AL-QAEDA GROUPS prove that is the case.
If he does not support the mission of US intrusion for installing a new government, why would Obama just let them fight it out in Iraq, instead of carrying over to handle what is left from that Bush had done?
Sending Helfire missiles and unmanned aircrafts to Iraq would mean supporting the mission of overthrowing Saddam for a new robot government by committing genocides and torture.
If there was no mission, the story had ended as it was a major error in the Iraq case that Iraq is now equal to Vietnam that it is only Iraqi business with no more US participation, in the example of sending missiles which is equal to supporting the mission.
It might become true of what Bush had started would become voided--that is, that present Iraq government could be gone anytime AND SOME DAY.
Logical paradox is based on facts shown.
Just another blunder by Obama, he was so wanted to make political points, he couldn't see the future (SOFA).

“impeach now replace later”

Since: Sep 09

Dump Trump now

#183467 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
They do it by buy mortgages from banks. This frees up cash from the banks who lend it at LOWER rates. And people would rather invest in the stock market than a low yield CD. Have you checked with your bank about CD rates lately?!?
And you have a degree in what? Mine is just an associates degree in aeronautics and I can figure that one out!
So according to your analysis if the banks stop lending the 75 Billion that is available through QE that the stock market will collapse.

However you failed to realize that the annual QE amounts to only 5% of the total 16.9 Trillion GNP. My question to you is this how could money that is less than 5% of the GNP could lead to the collapse of the stock market?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#183468 Jan 4, 2014
Citizen org wrote:
<quoted text>
Barack Obama and Clinton were not liberal and Bush and Cheney were not conservative.
They all belong to the Corporation Party and have to divide and conquer to win elections.
I wish Obama were a liberal/progressive but he is certain not.
He is a corporate centrist Democrat just like Bill Clinton.
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Judge Andrew Napolitano says Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for crimes against the United States Constitution.
The Libertarian commentator debates politics, history and what he considers to be the unconstitutional behavior of both the Bush and Obama administrations, with consumer advocate and four-time presidential candidate Ralph Nader.
June 2, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/kpno7e7
Well, this is something you don't see every day. Ralph Nader hosted this interview segment with Fox News' Judge Andrew Napolitano and discussed his book, Lies the Government Told You. I'm surprised the judge is going to be allowed on Fox after making the statements he did about Bush and Cheney during the interview.
Nader: What's the sanction for President Bush and Vice President Cheney?
Napolitano: There's been no sanction except what history will say about them.
Nader: What should be the sanctions?
Napolitano: They should have been indicted. They absolutely should have been indicted for torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrants. I'd like to say they should be indicted for lying but believe it or not, unless you're under oath, lying is not a crime. At least not an indictable crime. It's a moral crime.
Nader: So you think George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should even though they've left office, they haven't escaped the criminal laws, they should be indicted and prosecuted?
Napolitano: The evidence in this book and in others, our colleague the great Vincent Bugliosi has amassed an incredible amount of evidence. The purpose of this book was not to amass that evidence but I do discuss it, is overwhelming when you compare it to the level of evidence required for a normal indictment that George W. Bush as President and Dick Cheney as Vice President participated in criminal conspiracies to violate the federal law and the guaranteed civil liberties of hundreds, maybe thousands of human beings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3wepQdPHaiQXX
Great Britain and their agents have been jerking our chain since the revolution, don't believe me , read their national anthem. We have been England's friend, but they have never been ours. As far as they are concerned, we are still a colony.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183470 Jan 4, 2014
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>What is to be admired about someone who has a legacy is built on lies?
Who is to be judged by Frank's poll or demented opinion?
wojar wrote:
Correction the Frank poll finds his two friends don't like the President.
Big surprise.

“impeach now replace later”

Since: Sep 09

Dump Trump now

#183471 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your source for 2013 GDP of $16.9 Trillion? Oh, my bad, the figure I used was based on a 2009 dollar so all I needed to do is correct for population growth of 4.9% so $15 Trillion should be about $15.735 Trillion in 2009 dollars which is, corrected to 2013 should be $16.67 Trillion in 2013 dollars.
http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-inflation-adjust...
But according to this link our GDP for 2013 is only $15.684 T which is below inflation. And this is my link so Mr. Finch, may I see YOUR link?
Note: Mr. Finch NEVER shows links!
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states...
16.900 Trillion GNP

"current-dollar GDP -- the market value of the nation's output of goods and services -- increased 6.2 percent, or $251.9 billion, in the third quarter to a level of $16,912.9 billion."

Source; U. S Department of Commerce - Bureau of Economic Analysis Report of December 20, 2013.

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183472 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And that is why I seldom wear a hat!!!! And you?
It was -20 C this morning when I went on a walk. I was wearing a hat. I'm not bald, and my friends are in awe that my full head of hair has not one single gray strand as I am 62.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183473 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not worried much, is you?
Nope. BTW, you mentioned "worried" several times on that page. Now who is "worried"?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#183474 Jan 4, 2014
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
So according to your analysis if the banks stop lending the 75 Billion that is available through QE that the stock market will collapse.
However you failed to realize that the annual QE amounts to only 5% of the total 16.9 Trillion GNP. My question to you is this how could money that is less than 5% of the GNP could lead to the collapse of the stock market?
Would you like to wager your life on a sure bet, then have your odds cut by 5%, you could die. That 5% can make a big difference as to how people will place their bets.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183475 Jan 4, 2014
BTW, Rogue, one of my best friends is an extremely conservative gun-toting Harley riding Eaarth and Atmospheric Scientist (From a top research university in the SouthEast US). He has been doing research in the climate-related field for 40 years. Here's what he has to say.

1. Anthropogenic CO2 emissions have had some effect, significant, but,

200 years effect of doubling CO2 had effect of increasing global temperature less than a degree.

But then he said, don't be swayed by the small number.

Because ENERGY BALANCE of the planet is at stake.

That's the clue that nobody seems to comprehend.

The small change is leading to more extremes, such as ice storms in traditionally warm places.

At upper limit there is risk of crop death (no, Rougie, high CO2 which is "plant food" is irrelevant) You can drown in water, which is necessary for life too, Duh!

But, if all C on this earth's crust were converted to CO2, the result would be quadruple CO2, and most of it would end up in the ocean.

Estimate. guestimate, 2 deg C rise in temp over what would otherwise have happened.

Doesn't seem all that bad, but consequences could be catastrophic for lots of people.

In any event. all the oil will be eventually burned.

And we will need alternatives.

Would you prefer that the Chinese get a head start over us?

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On a totally different note, it was Mendeleev (think periodic table of the elements) who noted that burning oil reserves was akin to BURNING BANK NOTES TO KEEP WARM. Does anyone have a clue how many pharmaceuticals and valuable complex organics are synthesized from petroleum products?

The free market is clueless in this regard.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#183476 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
CRIMINAL CHARGES!!!! WHAT criminal charges do you have against Bush and Cheney?
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't read, can you? Unjustified war , torture, spying on the American public, for starters. Guy can't even travel to certain ALLIED countries. Clinton can, though, to ANY country,
Do you have any idea what codified law is? Please site the actual criminal charge? Congress approved of both the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. What torture? What spying on the American people?
Both Clinton and Obama allowed the IRS to spy on Americans, so why no comment here? Did Congress authorize the war in Yemen? Oh, water-boarding is not torture? Even the Chicago police where using water-boarding about fifteen years ago!!! Why have you not commented on that?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183477 Jan 4, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text> the republican party is inept.
No argument there.
Frank

Veradale, WA

#183478 Jan 4, 2014
Citizen org wrote:
<quoted text>
If Obama sold cocaine I am sure Hillary, McCain, and Romney would have brought that up.
Same with his birth certificate, his Muslim faith, and his communism.
Rogue the Dreamer.
ROTFL
Everly Brothers All I Have To Do Is Dream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =HmVSoJ1F0eQXX
If Obama sold cocaine and any politician brought it up, that politician would have been accused of racism. Same with any other Obama topic. If any one brings up the fact that Obama is a terrible golfer,they get accused of racism. Obama zombies and those that idolize Obama believe him to be perfect and they believe it is sacrilege to be critical.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#183479 Jan 4, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Would you like to wager your life on a sure bet, then have your odds cut by 5%, you could die. That 5% can make a big difference as to how people will place their bets.
Would you like to wager your life on the continued failure of play law? I bet you'd kill for a 0.0005 percent chance
Dale

Wichita, KS

#183480 Jan 4, 2014
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It was -20 C this morning when I went on a walk. I was wearing a hat. I'm not bald, and my friends are in awe that my full head of hair has not one single gray strand as I am 62.
LMAO!!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#183481 Jan 4, 2014
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you like to wager your life on the continued failure of play law? I bet you'd kill for a 0.0005 percent chance
LMAO!!! Would you like to wager your life on the progressive socialist party??? After all, if you believe in it, will you give up your life for the cause????

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#183482 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
CRIMINAL CHARGES!!!! WHAT criminal charges do you have against Bush and Cheney?
<quoted text>
Do you have any idea what codified law is? Please site the actual criminal charge? Congress approved of both the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. What torture? What spying on the American people?
Both Clinton and Obama allowed the IRS to spy on Americans, so why no comment here? Did Congress authorize the war in Yemen? Oh, water-boarding is not torture? Even the Chicago police where using water-boarding about fifteen years ago!!! Why have you not commented on that?
1. Third time : Torture, war based on lies.
2. Codified law? Yes I do.
3. What torture ? Waterboarding authorized by the president. And don't get cute, it's torture.
4. I don't know that Clinton allowed spying. Do you? GWB initiated it after 9/11. Obama continued. He should've toned it down or discontinued it.
5. What war in Yemen? Has the U.S. declared war in Yemen? I didn't know. Tell me about it.
6. If the Chicago policed waterboarded suspects, they were wrong, It was illegal. You cannot torture. How's that for my comment? WRONG. Doesn't matter who waterboards, it's torture and torture is illegal.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183483 Jan 4, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!!
I have no inclination to stop a hyena from pointless laughing.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It was -20 C this morning when I went on a walk. I was wearing a hat. I'm not bald, and my friends are in awe that my full head of hair has not one single gray strand as I am 62.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#183484 Jan 4, 2014
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your source for 2013 GDP of $16.9 Trillion? Oh, my bad, the figure I used was based on a 2009 dollar so all I needed to do is correct for population growth of 4.9% so $15 Trillion should be about $15.735 Trillion in 2009 dollars which is, corrected to 2013 should be $16.67 Trillion in 2013 dollars.
http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-inflation-adjust ...
But according to this link our GDP for 2013 is only $15.684 T which is below inflation. And this is my link so Mr. Finch, may I see YOUR link?
Note: Mr. Finch NEVER shows links!
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states ..
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
16.900 Trillion GNP
"current-dollar GDP -- the market value of the nation's output of goods and services -- increased 6.2 percent, or $251.9 billion, in the third quarter to a level of $16,912.9 billion."
Source; U. S Department of Commerce - Bureau of Economic Analysis Report of December 20, 2013.
"
Again .... you did not post a link and you never have. But I did plug in your title, "U. S Department of Commerce - Bureau of Economic Analysis Report of December 20, 2013.", which is a THIRD QUARTER report and I found no mention of the ANNUAL GDP of any amount.
If I can post a link, why can't you? You claim to be smarter than I am but I do not see it!!!
Oh, one more comment, since that was the THIRD Quarter report, how did they come up with an 2013 ANNUAL data?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#183485 Jan 4, 2014
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Would you like to wager your life on a sure bet, then have your odds cut by 5%, you could die. That 5% can make a big difference as to how people will place their bets.
Your life on a sure bet? Moron without a clue.
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
<quoted text>
So according to your analysis if the banks stop lending the 75 Billion that is available through QE that the stock market will collapse.
However you failed to realize that the annual QE amounts to only 5% of the total 16.9 Trillion GNP. My question to you is this how could money that is less than 5% of the GNP could lead to the collapse of the stock market?

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