BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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The Honorable Justice LRS

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<quoted text>In the alternate dimension of the Tea Bagger Truth and Facts are relative its what you can make someone believe that counts.
Snowed by a common, garden-variety con-man, huh? Have some more koolaid. LMAO!
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2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961 and Barack Hussein Obama as his father. At the time of Obama’s birth Kenya did not exist, it was known as British East Africa Protectorate until 1963.
3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. Obama could not have been born in 1961 in a hospital that wasn't built until 1978?
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LMAO (LRS-Dale tm reg'd). The hospital was inaugurated in 1890. Problem with Frank and his birfoon buffoon birther ilk is that they concoct a wild anti-Obama idea, nurture it, let it ferment, then bring it out , much to the instant belief and delight of his fellow clowns who circulate it, goes round and round, returns to /1/3 Stooge Frank who exclaims "I knew it, see , it's true, there was no Kapilolani hospital. Read, Frank, READ :
Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) at Kapi&#699;olani Medical Center
Kapi&#699;olani Medical Center for Women and Children is part of Hawaii Pacific Health's network of hospitals. It is located in Honolulu, Hawaii, within the residential inner city district of Makiki. Kapi&#699;olani Medical Center is Hawaii's only children's hospital with a team of physicians and nurses and specialized technology trained specifically to care for children, from infants to young adults. It is the state's only 24-hour pediatric emergency room, pediatric intensive care unit and adolescent unit.
The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapi&#699;olani as the Kapi&#699;olani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapi&#699;olani Hospital to become Kapi&#699;olani Medical Center for Women and Children.[2][3][4]
It is also notable as the birthplace of Barack Obama, the 44th President of the United States.[5][6][7][8][9]
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OOPS, FRANK :
A woman with a baby at the Kapiolani Maternity Home around the twenty-first anniversary in 1912
A new mother holds her baby who was born 10 weeks premature at Kapi&#699;olani Medical Center
Kapi&#699;olani Hospital[10]
In 1884, Princess Kekaulike died and willed her home, Ululani, as the site of a proposed maternity home to help Hawaiian mothers.
In 1890, after the princess's sister, Queen Kapi&#699;olani, raised $8,000 through bazaars and luaus, she founded the Kapi&#699;olani Home of the Hoolu and Hoola Lahui Society (society to propagate and perpetuate the race), located at Beretania and Makiki streets, to provide a maternity home for Hawaiian women. The five-bedroom home was opened on June 14, 1890 by King Kal&#257;kaua and Queen Kapi&#699;olani. Only six babies were born at the home the first year, since local women remained suspicious of doctors and institutions.
There is no way you can make any one believe that the doctor that signed Obama's birth certificate in 1961 would have known that they would change the name of the hospital in 1978 and would have guessed the exact name of the new hospital that was built down the street from the old hospital at a completely different address and guessed that address even though that address did not exist in 1961.
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Secretly they welcome it.
Birthers are like Stalkers:the more you reject them the crazier they get.
Spudstud seems to know all about "rejection"! LMAO!
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Wasn't talking to Bayou Birfoon.
I'm sure the Birfoon that elicited my response knows who I was talking to.
Then why respond? DAB! Just like Path, no memory at all. Drink up you fool!
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Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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He was referring to his great uncle NOT HIS FATHER.
"Senator Obama's family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II – especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald," said spokesman Bill Burton."
Don't let facts get in the way of your research.
Obama claimed that his great uncle liberated the Auschwitz Concentration camp near the German Polish border that was liberated by the Soviets. Will you attempt to defend any lie that Obama tells no matter how absurd?
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wojar wrote:
Sorry to break this news to birfoons but Kenya was usually called --Kenya-- in 1961.
In fact, if you look up Kenya in a contemporaneous source such as the 1962 World Book Encyclopedia, the article for "Kenya" identified "Kenya" as a British Protectorate sometimes called the Kenya Colony.
Tell that to The East Africa High Commission or the East African Currency Board. Obama's fake birth certificate released by the White House did not list Kenya Colony or British Protectorate, it listed Kenya that did not become independent until 1963.
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Kranter wrote:
Obama wants to see Marco Rubio's birth certificate. There are fun stuff for everyone. http://x.co/3WIkK
Marco Rubio has never lied about his birth certificate of his heritage. Our country has a long history of immigration Barack Obama's father never immigrated to the United States, he was never a citizen of the United States even for one day.
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Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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He was referring to his great uncle NOT HIS FATHER.
"Senator Obama's family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II – especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald," said spokesman Bill Burton."
Don't let facts get in the way of your research.
Obama was originally making up lies about his uncle being part of the 89th Infantry liberating Auschwitz,when invest investigators brought up the true facts he changed his lies. April 5,1945 a reconnaissance patrol from the 89th Infantry was the first to arrive at Ohrdruf concentration site. Nearly all of the prisoners had already been taken on a death march Buchenwald. The site had been accidentally bombed by United States forces a few weeks earlier and over two thousand were killed. The prisoners that couldn't walk to Buchenwald were either killed or in the case of some woman left at Ohrdruf with some woman guards. It is very unlikely that Obama's uncle would have been apart of that reconnaissance patrol,because that patrol on consisted of a few men,but most likely they did kill few female guards and found a few female survivors.
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The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Facts? What facts? Everything we've been told about the man is questionable at BEST. But please, continue to blindly drink the punch.
OReaLY? Well if you mean everything Birfoon websites have posted about him then I'd have to agree - questionable at best
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wojar wrote:
Sorry to break this news to birfoons but Kenya was usually called --Kenya-- in 1961.
In fact, if you look up Kenya in a contemporaneous source such as the 1962 World Book Encyclopedia, the article for "Kenya" identified "Kenya" as a British Protectorate sometimes called the Kenya Colony.
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There you are, wojar from Bristol, CT, would always respond by talking about parody and coherent English all that time.

What a blundering sock puppet of English-speaking, cloned and molded robot from Bristol, CT, that is!
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Frank wrote:
<quoted text> You would defend any lie that Obama has ever told,wouldn't you?
How come the birth certificate that Obama released through the White House listed his race as African-American when that term was not used in 1961?
The bc did not list the child's race. It also did not identify the father as African-American. Can't you read?
The Honorable Justice LRS

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Learn to Read wrote:
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OReaLY? Well if you mean everything Birfoon websites have posted about him then I'd have to agree - questionable at best
Carnival barkers know you by your first name, don't they? LMAO!

“Facts trump speculation”

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<quoted text>The Birth Certificate smuggled out of Kenya at great expense and danger by Lucas Smith in 2008 does not have the word "Kenya" anywhere on it. Dr. Alan Schecter attended the birth while in his first year of internship and remembered very well the turd's delivery as it was the first time he saw a white-woman give birth. Grandma Sarah Obama has publicly bragged she too was present at the birth in Mombassa along with a half-sister and a half-brother of this usurper.
You mean that goof ball missing a front tooth wearing a hoodie in a fast food joint who claims a man offered to pay him with Russian money to deliver the "future President of the United States" in Kenya in 1961?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

How could Lucas Smith smuggle anything out of Kenya when he was never there?

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<quoted text>Tell that to The East Africa High Commission or the East African Currency Board. Obama's fake birth certificate released by the White House did not list Kenya Colony or British Protectorate, it listed Kenya that did not become independent until 1963.
Huh?

What does the East Africa High Commission have to do with what Ann Durham wrote on the BC? RU taking your Aricept?

The evidence shows that people in America called Kenya, get this now,**KENYA**, at the time Obama was born.

Or do you think that Obama somehow altered my hard cover 1962 World Book Encyclopedia J-K volume while "scrubbing" the internet?
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Sorry to break this news to birfoons but Kenya was usually called --Kenya-- in 1961.
In fact, if you look up Kenya in a contemporaneous source such as the 1962 World Book Encyclopedia, the article for "Kenya" identified "Kenya" as a British Protectorate sometimes called the Kenya Colony.
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The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Carnival barkers know you by your first name, don't they? LMAO!
Problems Romper?
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Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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He was referring to his great uncle NOT HIS FATHER.
"Senator Obama's family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II – especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald," said spokesman Bill Burton."
Don't let facts get in the way of your research.
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It isn't rocket science to devise a name change, is it?
What was thy previous nick?
DBA "Atticus Tiberius Finch " seems to be just fine then.
It might erase the tangle of other people's puzzle that a name could be conceived as purely the droll.
Would DBA, doing business as "Atticus Tiberius Finch " produce no farce?
As long as it is no jester, what really was your previous nickname?

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<quoted text>The Birth Certificate smuggled out of Kenya at great expense and danger by Lucas Smith in 2008 does not have the word "Kenya" anywhere on it. Dr. Alan Schecter attended the birth while in his first year of internship and remembered very well the turd's delivery as it was the first time he saw a white-woman give birth. Grandma Sarah Obama has publicly bragged she too was present at the birth in Mombassa along with a half-sister and a half-brother of this usurper.
Let's begin with the rules of evidence.

The so-called Lucas Smith's alleged Obama's Kenya birth certificate will never be introduced as evidence in any trial because the manner of the way Lucas Smith obtained the birth certificate did not comply with the Federal Rules of Evidence, particularly regarding foreign public documents as set forth in Rule 902 (3) of the Federal Rules of Evidence, as provided:

(3) Foreign public documents.--A document purporting to be executed or attested in an official capacity by a person authorized by the laws of a foreign country to make the execution or attestation, and accompanied by a final certification as to the genuineness of the signature and official position (A) of the executing or attesting person, or (B) of any foreign official whose certificate of genuineness of signature and official position relates to the execution or attestation or is in a chain of certificates of genuineness of signature and official position relating to the execution or attestation. A final certification may be made by a secretary of an embassy or legation, consul general, consul, vice consul, or consular agent of the United States, or a diplomatic or consular official of the foreign country assigned or accredited to the United States. If reasonable opportunity has been given to all parties to investigate the authenticity and accuracy of official documents, the court may, for good cause shown, order that they be treated as presumptively authentic without final certification or permit them to be evidenced by an attested summary with or without final certification.

Federal courts have ruled that unless the foreign birth certificate complies with FRE 902 then the it is inadmissible .“Although the trial court was correct in finding that neither Rule 901 nor 902(3) was complied with, the court did abuse its discretion in holding the evidence authentic and admissible. This circuit requires strict compliance with the authenticity rules. United States v. Perlmuter, 693 F. 2d 1290, 1292 (9th Cir. 1982)(internal citations omitted)

As such, the purported Lucas Smith's birth certificate doesn't even come close in complying with Rule 902(3) by the following:

1. There is no proof by Kenyan laws that a Chief Administrator "Dr. Heltan Maganga" of a private hospital is authorized to attest as to the genuineness of the birth certificate
2. There is no proof that signature of the Chief Administrator "Dr. Heltan Maganga" is genuine in absence of a certification
3. There is no final certification by any personnel in the United States embassy in Kenya.

That is why Lucas Smith's purported birth certificate is worthless
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You mean that goof ball missing a front tooth wearing a hoodie in a fast food joint who claims a man offered to pay him with Russian money to deliver the "future President of the United States" in Kenya in 1961?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
How could Lucas Smith smuggle anything out of Kenya when he was never there?
Unfortunately, the joke is on you! LMAO! Been buying any grass condos lately? LOL!

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<quoted text> You would defend any lie that Obama has ever told,wouldn't you?
How come the birth certificate that Obama released through the White House listed his race as African-American when that term was not used in 1961?
Interesting. First you asserted that Obama was talking about his father fighting in WWII when I corrected your assertion by showing that Obama was talking about his GRAND UNCLE fighting in WWII. Now you are moving the goalposts to suit your agenda.

Typical Birther response. Don't like the answer move the goalposts.

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Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Tell that to The East Africa High Commission or the East African Currency Board. Obama's fake birth certificate released by the White House did not list Kenya Colony or British Protectorate, it listed Kenya that did not become independent until 1963.
Typical birfoon reading comprehension problem. The article on KENYA, said KENYA was a protectorate and sometimes called Kenya Colony. But the article was under the name, KENYA. That was in 1962 Fwank.(The volume was prepared for publication in 1961.)

"Kenya is a protectorate in Africa/" That means in Birfoonese that Kenya was not called Kenya by Americans in 1961 even though the article about "KENYA" called it **KENYA** numerous times. A contemporaneous article written in an authoritative US published source shows that Kenya was known as Kenya in the US at the time.

So Frank can tell that to the East Africa High commission.
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Sorry to break this news to birfoons but Kenya was usually called --Kenya-- in 1961.
In fact, if you look up Kenya in a contemporaneous source such as the 1962 World Book Encyclopedia, the article for "Kenya" identified "Kenya" as a British Protectorate sometimes called the Kenya Colony.

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