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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#182587 Dec 19, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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They all hate moose molesting Canadians, as do all patriotic Americans.
" as do all patriotic Americans" , which you prove daily you are not.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#182588 Dec 19, 2013
Birds and the bees, LRS. Sorry, doesn't work. Irrelevant.

All things equal, and having a choice (your belief that there IS a choice) between heterosexuality and homosexuality, when did you choose to be heterosexual?
The Honorable Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#182589 Dec 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Hmm, I see. As you said, homosexuals have a choice. Are you sure you chose to be straight. So many posts alluding to butts and azzes and excrement and and...and always anal too. When DID you choose?
You don't read too well. The word I used was "perversion". LMAO! Pay attention or don't interrupt! LMAO!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#182590 Dec 19, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Poor Dufus. Your fable crashed and burned. All you have left is those lessons on "snappy comebacks" from Romper
LMAO!!! You haven't understood a word that I have post, this I can tell from your feeble replies or should I say, your spam.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#182591 Dec 19, 2013
Jacques,
So I went to youtube and watched a random Duck Dynasty video. It was about 2 or 3 minutes in length.
They were in a clothing boutique shopping for a dress and one of the old guys was talking to a maniquin trying to get a date.

Nothing more needs to be said. I can't make stuff like that up..
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#182593 Dec 20, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You haven't understood a word that I have post, this I can tell from your feeble replies or should I say, your spam.
Spam? The decisions of US Courts telling Dufus his fables are worthless are Spam?

Poor Dufus. Your failure. Your ignorance. Your problem
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#182594 Dec 20, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>NASTY!!! Natural Law (Law of Nation by Vattel) became Constitutional Law in 1868, "by virtue of natural law (Law of Nation)and national law (Civil Rights Act 1866) a citizen of the United States." (Howard (2890)
How can children of aliens be citizens of the US, their parents are "not subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", so they would follow the condition of their father.
If the parents are IN the USA they, like everybody else (except for foreign diplomats), are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA. As for Howard, his views were not shared by Bingham and Trumbull or by the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case.

And millions of US-born citizens whose parents were foreigners (even those with dual citizenship) were loyal to the USA in two world wars. As Bingham and Trumbull and US law all say, the citizenship of the parents has no effect whatever on the Natural Born Citizen status of children born in the USA (except for the children of foreign diplomats)..

Moreover, Howard's OPINION (or any opinion for that matter) has no effect on the US Constitution. If the Constitution does not say something, it does not mean it---even if the writers forgot to put it in. And there is nothing in the US Constitution, and that includes the 14th Amendment, that says that the US-born children of foreigners are not US citizens or not Natural Born US Citizens. So, under strict construction (Remember that?) it is not allowed to claim that the 14th Amendment provides that the US-born children of foreigners are not citizens or not Natural Born Citizens. There simply are no words in the document saying what you claim. And, under Libertarian principles (remember them???) it is not allowed to take away a right or a privilege without there being specific authorization to take it away in the US Constitution, and there is no such specific authorization.

Bingham, and Trumbull, and Hatch, and Graham and the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case and the ten appeals courts that have all ruled on presidential eligibility are all right, and you are WRONG.
The Honorable Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#182595 Dec 20, 2013
If you're subject to a foreign power (like Obobblehead) then you're not a citizen. Deal with it and try not to be duped again.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#182596 Dec 20, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
So I went to youtube and watched a random Duck Dynasty video. It was about 2 or 3 minutes in length.
They were in a clothing boutique shopping for a dress and one of the old guys was talking to a maniquin trying to get a date.
Nothing more needs to be said. I can't make stuff like that up..
If you had developed a light hearted sense of humor as you matured you would be far less intolerant. God, grant me the SERENITY to accept the things I cannot change, the COURAGE to change the things I can, and the WISDOM to know the difference!
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#182597 Dec 20, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Well said.
But let me put it this way. If you were black and he based his refusal to serve you on the premise that his beliefs forbid him to serve blacks, what would you do? Can you imagine the reaction of today's community, not serving someone on account of the colour his skin? Well, gays and gay marriages are now entrenched in Colorado's laws and gays have equal rights as do blacks.
I'm like you, perhaps I wouldn't be bothered suing. But I would agree with any gay couple that did.
Thats the thing about real freedom Jacques, and ones right to pursue their own happiness. It is not a crime to refuse to associate with certain people, or to refuse to do business with them privately for any reason. I'm not saying it's always right in every case, but freedom permits some to be fools and idiots. It's about as senseless as declaring that all dogs can no longer be racists and thinking you can make it so by that declaration. Some dogs simply don't like black people.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#182598 Dec 20, 2013
I have been in the contracting business for 23 years now Jacques. Over the years I have worked for just about every race of people and profession. I have done seven jobs over the years for black customers and six of them have ripped me off. I have been ripped off by every Indian and Arab customer without exception. Doctors, Dentist, Architects, Engineers, and Builders are others that believe they have the right to refuse to live up to their end of the contract as well, and I avoid working for them like a plague. They must be recommended to me by another contractor that has done many jobs for them without incident. Guess what group I rarely ever have a problem with Jacques? Upper middle class, western european christians. Why is that?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#182599 Dec 20, 2013
The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
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You don't read too well. The word I used was "perversion". LMAO! Pay attention or don't interrupt! LMAO!
Explain the following away and twist in the wind once more :

Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

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The only perversion around here is you.
Are you telling us that homosexuality is a choice?

The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:

Are you saying it isn't?

P.S.: And pray tell, who is perverted BY CHOICE and why?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#182600 Dec 20, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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Thats the thing about real freedom Jacques, and ones right to pursue their own happiness. It is not a crime to refuse to associate with certain people, or to refuse to do business with them privately for any reason. I'm not saying it's always right in every case, but freedom permits some to be fools and idiots. It's about as senseless as declaring that all dogs can no longer be racists and thinking you can make it so by that declaration. Some dogs simply don't like black people.
I've lived in communities that were 99% black. Many Whites TRAINED their dogs to be racists. And they were, believe me, threatening any black that came to within 500 feet..But not a peep from them when a white person came along.

Like it or not, it is not a right to refuse service on account of pursuing your own happiness or your refusal to do business with someone for any reason as you put it . It's a crime enshrined in law. "I just beat up my neighbour because he wouldn't let me pursue my own happiness..."
The Honorable Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#182601 Dec 20, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Explain the following away and twist in the wind once more :
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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The only perversion around here is you.
Are you telling us that homosexuality is a choice?
The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
Are you saying it isn't?
P.S.: And pray tell, who is perverted BY CHOICE and why?
My statement was quite clear. And, out of which left field did that last sentence come from? It has no relation to what I said. Comprehension, Path! I don't think you can read anything without twisting it into something it isn't. Tx/Rx error is my guess. LMAO!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#182602 Dec 20, 2013
The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
If you're subject to a foreign power (like Obobblehead) then you're not a citizen. Deal with it and try not to be duped again.
If your fable is laughed out of every Court in the land just keep repeating it while you click your heels together. It makes us laugh
The Honorable Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#182603 Dec 20, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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If your fable is laughed out of every Court in the land just keep repeating it while you click your heels together. It makes us laugh
The Courts erred, Twink.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#182604 Dec 20, 2013
The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>The Courts erred, Twink.
The Courts got it right more than 200 times. Play law failed and only pathetic fools continue to cling to it. But then clinging to failure is all you have

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#182605 Dec 20, 2013
The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
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My statement was quite clear. And, out of which left field did that last sentence come from? It has no relation to what I said. Comprehension, Path! I don't think you can read anything without twisting it into something it isn't. Tx/Rx error is my guess. LMAO!
Okay, let's make it clear. Answer this :
Is homosexuality a choice, yes or no?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#182606 Dec 20, 2013
The Honorable Justice LRS wrote:
If you're subject to a foreign power (like Obobblehead) then you're not a citizen. Deal with it and try not to be duped again.
Dual citizens are citizens, and their dual status does not affect their Natural Born Citizen status. Like Obama, Eisenhower and Woodrow Wilson were dual citizens at birth If the writers of the US Constitution had meant to excluded dual citizens, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US---and they didn't.

Why does the Honorable Justice LRS ignore good conservative legal principles like strict construction, which holds that unless the Constitution says something it does not mean it. Why does the Honorable Justice LRS ignore good libertarian principles that say that neither a right nor a privilege can be taken from people unless the Constitution specifically says it. Well, the Constitution DOES NOT SAY IT. There is nothing in the Constitution about dual citizens, nor is there a word in it (or in any of the writings of the members of the Constitutional Convention) that says that the US-born children of foreigners should be treated any differently than the US-born children of US citizens.

Millions of the US-born children of foreigners fought for the USA in two world wars, and there is not a shred of evidence that they were any less loyal than the US-born children of US citizens. And there is not a shred of evidence that the writers of the Constitution thought so either.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#182607 Dec 20, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Spam? The decisions of US Courts telling Dufus his fables are worthless are Spam?
Poor Dufus. Your failure. Your ignorance. Your problem
LMOA!! We citizens that know the limitations of the USSC can see that it has turned out nothing but Spam for the last 115+ years.
I can see you are a devoted fan of what the USSC has been shoving down you throat and up your rectum.
Keep up the good work, tool!! You will be buried with the rotting meat you gorge yourself with.

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