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I also thought at the time that the rebels may have launched the gas attacks. That theory has pretty much been laid to rest now, and even Assad has not accused the rebels of using gas. What's more, Assad, given the red line drawn by Obama (I reproached Obama that red line, I was wrong, he was right) immediately huddled with Putin and both decided to come clean, admit he had chemical weapons (before the red line , not only did he deny using gas, he denied HAVING it) and call in the UN and destroy it.
I know Hersh. I know of his impeccable reputation as a journalist. This time, he's getting bogged down in details. Unimportant details. It's clear the regime used the gas which, incidentally, requires expertise and launchers. I doubt the rebels had either.
I agree the Hersh story sounds a little wishy washy but for him to publish it there might be something else going on.

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Dec 9, 2013
 
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Back from shovelling the white stuff. Damn. Yesterday, the TV meteorologist said we'd have a mere "sprinkling" of snow today, 1/2 and inch max. Well, since this morning, we've had over 4 inches and it's still snowing.
According to "Justice" ha ha LRS and Rogue, the meteorologist lied.
It is unfortunate that even the meteorologist in the USA sensationalize the weather like the news.

It is usually the opposite of what you reported.

They will predict 4 in. and we will get only a trace.

They love making a mountain out of a molehill.
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The F-22 is a pile of junk. Too expensive. Such a failure, only 195 were built and it's been replaced by the junkier and even more expensive F-35 which, after years of "development", is unflyable and could be shot down by a Sopwith Camel. Consider (F22):
Delays, technical glitches and huge cost overruns in the Air Force's F-22 fighter jet program highlight the Pentagon's broken procurement process.
By Ralph Vartabedian and W.J. Hennigan Los Angeles Times
June 16, 2013
When the U.S. sought to assure Asian allies that it would defend them against potential aggression by North Korea this spring, the Pentagon deployed its top-of-the-line jet fighter, the F-22 Raptor.
But only two of the jets were sent screaming through the skies south of Seoul.
That token show of American force was a stark reminder that the U.S. may have few F-22s to spare. Alarmed by soaring costs, the Defense Department shut down production last year after spending $67.3 billion on just 188 planes — leaving the Air Force to rely mainly on its fleet of 30-year-old conventional fighters.
"People around the world aren't dumb," said House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard "Buck" McKeon (R-Santa Clarita). "They see what we have. They recognize that our forces have been severely depleted."
Lockheed Martin Corp.'s F-22 is the most lethal fighter jet in the world. But it has also become a symbol of a broken procurement process that's failing to deliver advanced weapons systems on time, on budget and in sufficient quantities.
The F-22 was originally intended to replace all of the Air Force's F-15 combat jets that date back to the early 1970s. But today those F-15s still represent the bulk of a so-called air superiority fleet — the jets that are supposed to outgun enemy aircraft and gain control of the sky.
Nonetheless, the F-22 program cemented Lockheed's position as the premier manufacturer of combat aircraft in the world.
The system is totally broken and everybody knows it"
— Sherman Mullin, retired former Lockheed F-22 program chief
The early cancellation led directly to a new advanced warplane, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that Lockheed also produces. Today, that nearly $400-billion system is headed in the same direction as the F-22, falling behind schedule, encountering serious software problems and suffering sharp cost growth.
ambitious programs based on low-ball estimates by contractors, critics say. Eager to speed money to their home states, members of Congress allocate funding for these leading-edge defense programs, even before the technologies are developed and tested.
"If everybody involved would be more realistic and didn't lie about risk, technical difficulty and cost, we wouldn't have these problems," said Thomas P. Christie, a retired official who spent nearly 50 years working in Pentagon acquisitions. "We jump into these decisions, then get surprised about the outcome."
The F-22 experienced almost every one of these problems. The Air Force began laying plans to build the F-22 in the early 1980s. A decade later, it estimated it would take nine years and $12.6 billion to develop the jet, but it ended up taking 19 years and costing $26.3 billion, not including the production of any aircraft. By the time production was completed, the F-22 cost an average of $412 million each, up from the original estimate of $149 million.
"The system is totally broken and everybody knows it," said Sherman Mullin, the retired former Lockheed chief of the F-22 program and a fierce advocate for the jet. "Partially, the F-22 fell victim to that."
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-advance...
You are absolutely right.

More Pentagon waste and fraud that Congress has no problem funding.

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Yes, I did. But I did not anticipate Bernanke starting QE3 in September 2012.
Increasing money supply is not the same as Quantitative Easing.
So you are blaming what Bernanke did in September 2012 that your prediction of 6% inflation for all of 2012 did not came to fruition?

Then explain why up to Setember 2012 the inflation rate was 2.95 including three months when there was a NEGATIVE INFLATION (April, May and June in which the inflation rate FELL -.43)?

If Bernanke did not QE3 in September what effect did it had for the three months of 2012 that the end result was inflation rate of 2.07?

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Yes, I did. But I did not anticipate Bernanke starting QE3 in September 2012.
Increasing money supply is not the same as Quantitative Easing.
Correction

So you are blaming what Bernanke did in September 2012 that your prediction of 6% inflation for all of 2012 did not came to fruition?

Then explain why up to Setember 2012 the inflation rate was 2.95 including three months when there was a NEGATIVE INFLATION (April, May and June in which the inflation rate FELL -.43)?

If Bernanke did start QE3 in September what effect did it had for the three months of 2012 that the end result was inflation rate of 2.07?

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Hey Rouge how come the current inflation rate for 2013 is only 1.49%?

What is your prediction for 2014? Will it be 6% as in your prediction for 2012?

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It is unfortunate that even the meteorologist in the USA sensationalize the weather like the news.
It is usually the opposite of what you reported.
They will predict 4 in. and we will get only a trace.
They love making a mountain out of a molehill.
You're right of course. One can sense the letdown at CNN when a full-blown hurricane turns into a mere strong wind.

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Hey Rouge how come the current inflation rate for 2013 is only 1.49%?
What is your prediction for 2014? Will it be 6% as in your prediction for 2012?
Atticus, Atticus. You don't get it , do you? The rate of 1.49% is FIXED by Obama. The real rate is more like 7, 8%, as every birther knows. Obama, not unlike his "fabricated "unemployment figures, has his own system, a system never used by his predecessors. How he gets the fed statisticians to fall in line, I don't know. He probably buys them off like he did almost 60 million voters.

And should Rogue admit that the true rate is 1.49%, and he was SEEMINGLY wrong, it's his broker's fault who, not unlike the media and pollsters, misled him. To resume : With Rogue, it's always a win-win proposition.
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Dec 9, 2013
 
Obummer pals around with his terrorists buddies at funeral for known socialist marxist terrorist leader Nelscum Mansmella. His unconstitutional trip on his private jet is estimated to cost us tax payers up to 2 billion dollars.

Shame on you Newt and Cruz for not standind up for America and apeasing this atrocious attack on our freedoms. I expected better.

Wake up America before its to late.

Stand up, not bow down to our enemies abroad.
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Dufus Dale does not comprehend that the US is a sovereign and independent nation.
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LMAO!!! You seem to forget, the US Constitution wasn't written for aliens.
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And Dufus Dale can write to the State Department telling them that the US is not a sovereign nation and they ought to follow Play Law.
LMAO.
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LMAO!!! And what has jurisdiction over this sovereign nation? Remember it was written for "We the People", not the aliens, they have never been "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", since they are citizens of a country other than the US.
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We'll take this as an implicit admission of your ignorance and intention to continue spamming.
Don't say we didn't offer you anything.
Thanks for confirming that you are an Obot troll!
Obama and the Constitution…like oil and water the two don’t mix!
Mix in gasoline, put flame to the fumes and watch things explode!
will America learn its lesson?
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Tea Party Patriots wrote:
Obummer pals around with his terrorists buddies at funeral for known socialist marxist terrorist leader Nelscum Mansmella. His unconstitutional trip on his private jet is estimated to cost us tax payers up to 2 billion dollars.
Shame on you Newt and Cruz for not standind up for America and apeasing this atrocious attack on our freedoms. I expected better.
Wake up America before its to late.
Stand up, not bow down to our enemies abroad.
Yep, I wish Obama and his entourage would have taken a fast train to South Africa!
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<quoted text>Yep, I wish Obama and his entourage would have taken a fast train to South Africa!
Thank you, I agree. But noooooooooo, Obummer won't take the cheaper way, he had nickel and dime us freedom patriots by taking the most expesive route.

If he had stayed in Africa after being born, he wouldn't need to raid the tax payers to get back there.
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<quoted text>LMAO!!! You seem to forget, the US Constitution wasn't written for aliens.
Back to the same tired fable?
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You're right of course. One can sense the letdown at CNN when a full-blown hurricane turns into a mere strong wind.
The Three Networks are also notorious for hyping and sensationalizing the weather.

ABC, CBS, NBC.

Every news channel has breaking news all day long without any importance to anyone.

They especially love to flood the Airwaves with stories about Pets, Animals, and how fast one can eat in a food contest.

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Thank you, I agree. But noooooooooo, Obummer won't take the cheaper way, he had nickel and dime us freedom patriots by taking the most expesive route.
If he had stayed in Africa after being born, he wouldn't need to raid the tax payers to get back there.
Encore: America’s Gilded Capital
December 6, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/ok4yz5c
Bill talks with New York Times journalist Mark Leibovich about This Town, his book on how money rules Washington, DC.
http://billmoyers.com/episode/encore-americas...
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<quoted text>LMAO!!! You seem to forget, the US Constitution wasn't written for aliens.
It wasn't written for Play Law morons in their make believe play worlds.
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<quoted text>LMAO!!! And what has jurisdiction over this sovereign nation? Remember it was written for "We the People", not the aliens, they have never been "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", since they are citizens of a country other than the US.
Sorry loser, according to play Law this country is not a sovereign nation.(Play Law crashed and burned long ago.) According to Play Law foreign law has jurisdiction within the borders of the US, which must ask permission from sovereign nations for jurisdiction over aliens. LMAO.
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<quoted text>Yep, I wish Obama and his entourage would have taken a fast train to South Africa!
Only an idiot can possibly believe a sovereign nation cedes jurisdiction through a "we the people" preamble. Meanwhile Dufus believes States have jurisdiction over aliens despite the fact that most state constitution preambles also recite "we the people" or "the people of ________".

What an infantile twerp.

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